BadAss2961
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Snyder could lead, direct, score, market, do photography, hair and makeup, catering, cut trailers, and run the country at the same time.
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Variety: Ben Affleck steps down as director of 'The Batman'
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BvS starred two of the most iconic characters in comic history. It marketed itself using the DC trinity. It still failed to hit 900M WW and was almost matched by SS at the DOM BO.
How much more is Cyborg, Aquaman, and Flash really going to add to the bottom line? None of them elevate JL to guaranteed billion dollar status.
JL needs to be a good film. Not necessarily amazing but just a solid film with critics and audiences. Unfortunately WB has left this in the hands of Snyder who is 0/2 and looks like he could single handily bring the whole thing down.
How much more is Cyborg, Aquaman, and Flash really going to add to the bottom line? None of them elevate JL to guaranteed billion dollar status.
JL needs to be a good film. Not necessarily amazing but just a solid film with critics and audiences. Unfortunately WB has left this in the hands of Snyder who is 0/2 and looks like he could single handily bring the whole thing down.
Shpeshal Nick
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Well uh...that isn't good.
The DCCU is just on Struggle Street at the moment.
The DCCU is just on Struggle Street at the moment.
It would also help if WW does really well critically and financially and makes the character someone movie-goers want to see more of.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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If you ignore the 9 solo Batman movies that have already been released then I agree
Killing_Joke
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I would love Snyder as a director only. His sense of action and visuals are ace. As a writer and overall story teller. Not so much. Snyder, Affleck, and Geoffs is pretty much a perfect dream team in my eyes.
A director is also a story-teller. A lot of directors (most, I think) don't write their own scripts.
Schweinehund
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At first I thought this was totally negative news but I can kind of get behind the idea that affleck isn't very talented in making these types of action movies. I'd rather him find a good partner (like the Apes director that was listed somewhere) where they can creatively work together with affleck controlling & penning the script.
Dash_Riprock
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Not really bold at this point. Odds are 50/50 at best.
Discotheque
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Yeah it's common sense to not have Kevin Smith direct a Batman movie. Or any action movie with a big budget.
That or he means common sense to not attach his name to the DCEU.
Discotheque
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Lol i doubt he meant that. The tweet is pretty self aware of how awful a fit he'd be for it.
People hate these movies so much that they're willing to believe the prestige of Kevin Smith would be ruined by them.....
Anyways Matt Reeves or bust. Villeneuve and Fincher seem like pipe dream choices but I would take those too. Post Nolan I think they gotta go really ambitious with the batman director.
PhantomZone
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Dash_Riprock
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Or any movie really. Dude's a better commentator these days than filmmaker.
He's great at writing dialogue. He's just shit at everything else.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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I think if the superhero movie boom had happened in the 90s Kevin probably would have gotten to make one
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spookyfish
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Pic in the original post. I'm legit impressed.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of Affleck nor of the "produced, directed by and starring" thing, but I think he's the best director DCCU has had up until this point.
Warner just didn't want have to say "From the director of Live by Night."
Yeah, I'm not a fan of Affleck nor of the "produced, directed by and starring" thing, but I think he's the best director DCCU has had up until this point.
Warner just didn't want have to say "From the director of Live by Night."
At being disappointing.=p
Personally he's definitely at his best when in front of the camera, not behind it.
He said he was basically offered a Kevin Feige-like overseer position back in the late 90's by a top WB exec for a comicbook-centric division. He said we was way too intimidated at the time.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Makes sense. He was still a relatively hot director at the time (mallrats notwithstanding) and the WB execs probably saw him as the "comic book guy". He's missed his opportunity now though after a decade of flops.
Lol he literally followed up the story with "Christ, as I say it out loud..."
He seems to be having fun with the CW DC stuff. His Supergirl episode was alot of fun.
PhantomX1313
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This is hilarious guys we got more people airing the fire now, this guy Jon schnepp of collider heroes expecting Armie Hammer to be the next batman after Ben's last go in JL, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAaRe8RBFEQ
Wow this would be the biggest mistake ever in casting of batman, dude is cheaper than Ben.
Wow this would be the biggest mistake ever in casting of batman, dude is cheaper than Ben.
There's the theory that Thanos is going to use the Infinity Gems to resurrect Red skull, Aether, Malaketh & Ronan in Infinity War.
elrechazado
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Or any movie that isn't the first clerks.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Red skull isn't dead
nvm
He was already cast as Batman once before.
Or any movie really. Dude's a better commentator these days than filmmaker.
I like his stories. Never cared for his movies. Clerks was a fluke.
Murder. She Wrote
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They didn't give him the creative control he desired so he stepped down as director, those fucking idiots don't know what they're doing.
Seeing as the actor who played Malakith (Christopher Eccleston) has kinda said he finds the whole thing silly and the only reason he did Thor 2 was to work with the Director I doubt he's coming back.
I'm sure people would mostly go "who?.gif" when they tried to bring the character back anyways, so no real loss.
BadAss2961
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That's just his cover. He fights crime at night.#1 is the most troubling. From all the rumors Ben just gambles and fuck women all day.
I mean who the hell gambles in Detroit?
Has he even spoken to Matt Damon recently
NipplesAndToes23
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damn!
Dash_Riprock
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Sounds like the ideal life to me.
Basically agree. I'd love to get Red Skull and Ronan back though.
To be fair it was a makeup and costume heavy role, they could pretty easily get another actor to play Malakith for a cameo.
Or any movie really. Dude's a better commentator these days than filmmaker.
^ This. As a huge Batman fan I more than likely would pass on seeing a Kevin Smith directed batman movie all together.
The Driver
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I can deal with him stepping down from the director's chair.
Honestly after the insanity that is probably the scheduling book for Infinity War, this movie was probably the most unprecedented feat in CBMs. He was trying to write, direct, produce, and fucking star in this thing.
I know that's how he's mostly done his last few movies but it's a whole different beast when the thing you're trying to do all of this for is a franchise with that much of a legacy and has all of this baggage from the recent films.
There's also the simple fact that I bet it must blow dicks being in that fucking suit all day and then having to direct while sweating your ass off. If he had managed to get it out the door and it have it be good to great he would have been a fucking LEGEND, there was just no damn way it was gonna happen lol.
All that being said he better not wuss out of staring in this at least. He's definitely a great Batman and it would be a huge shame if he never got to flex in a solo adventure mostly free of all that extended universe bullshit.
Honestly after the insanity that is probably the scheduling book for Infinity War, this movie was probably the most unprecedented feat in CBMs. He was trying to write, direct, produce, and fucking star in this thing.
I know that's how he's mostly done his last few movies but it's a whole different beast when the thing you're trying to do all of this for is a franchise with that much of a legacy and has all of this baggage from the recent films.
There's also the simple fact that I bet it must blow dicks being in that fucking suit all day and then having to direct while sweating your ass off. If he had managed to get it out the door and it have it be good to great he would have been a fucking LEGEND, there was just no damn way it was gonna happen lol.
All that being said he better not wuss out of staring in this at least. He's definitely a great Batman and it would be a huge shame if he never got to flex in a solo adventure mostly free of all that extended universe bullshit.
Or any movie really. Dude's a better commentator these days than filmmaker.
You didn't love the cinematic masterpiece of Yoga Hosers or Tusk?
This. I've been saying it for ages. They need people like the Russo brothers to direct their movies. Let Snyder in as a cinematographer. And keep Goyer the fuck away from the script. Dude clearly doesn't understand his characters.
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