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[MC Safety]

Why can't a United States rights group file a lawsuit on behalf of the consumers and take it to the supreme court.

The Supreme Court only hears a select few cases. It is also a court of appeals.

 

[epmode]

I know Optimum gets a lot of crap like every cable company but in terms of Internet service they were pretty amazing,

I really love Optimum. Even their basic service is pretty fast and they do very little of this throttling bullshit.

Their television package pricing is out of control but that's another story.

 

[Omega]

Yeah Cablevision. At least you do one thing right.

I don't think it's them doing anything right.

More like everyone else doing everything wrong.

 

[Philia]

Cox #3, I thought I was lucky. Thankfully still am; just hope this doesn't turn into a trend and spread this shit practice though. I'm so sorry for you guys with shitty internet providers.

 

[Tragicomedy]

Here's the weird part about all this. As a subscriber, you PAY Verizon (or whatever ISP) to provide you bandwidth to access the things you want. As a subscriber, you also PAY Netflix to access their content.

What sort of content is Verizon providing in all this? Why do they feel like they fit into the equation? You're already PAYING for their bandwidth. Verizon has zero original content that subscribers want.

 

[MikeHaggar]

i have fios. they throttle youtube all of the time too (at least for me). sometimes the videos just refuse to load or only load a bit and then just stop. if i copy the url and connect via a proxy server the video loads immediately 100% of the time. never fails.

its ridiculous to me because i pay $80/month for fast speeds. i'm a "premium" customer. why are you tampering with my ability to use the service that i pay for?

 

[Mononoke]

I don't really get how data caps work. So if you are paying for 80 mb/s internet through FiOS you still have x amount of data you can have before being capped/ throttled?

 

[SimleuqiR]

This is going on for quite a bit now, and it sucks that my only other option atm is Comcast, which is performing even worse for Netflix.

Don't expect Google Fiber to really step into the ring any time soon, there's a reason why they are mostly expanding to cities no one wants to live in (with a few exceptions). This whole thing is still an experiment to them.


Amazing for just about everything but Netflix, I believe they are 7th in the US now (they were 2nd to Google Fiber just a year ago).

Google strategy is to show the other cities what a real ISP market looks like when there's competition. If enough people notice how good these other cities have it when it comes to price and speeds then maybe, just maybe, the politicians in those cities will have to do something that benefits the consumer.

 

[HeisenbergLannister]

BUT GUYS! Pay $50 more a month for an extra 1GB in your monthly cap!

HURRY, OFFER ENDS 2/30/2014!

 

[witness]

Now I don't have FiOS, not available in my area and am using U Verse, but I do have verizon for my cell phones and I am cancelling that when our contract ends in December. No fucking way am I supporting a company that does this.

 

[RobbieNick]

YEESH! I've been on Verizon DSL this whole time due to that being my mother's phone service too. Which is the best phone service for higher DSL internet speeds?

 

[Deprive]

No wonder Verizon stopped building out Fios :|

 

[linkboy]

Yea, I'm not surprised by this.

So glad I dropped Verizon and went prepaid, Now if I could just get my wife to.

 

[xsarien]

YEESH! I've been on Verizon DSL this whole time due to that being my mother's phone service too. Which is the best phone service for higher DSL internet speeds?

The key is ditching DSL for internet connectivity. It's never going to be the fastest option.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Cablevision #2

Mediacom #13

i need to go back

 

[Xamdou]

When I had it I was getting 65 down and 20 up

Pretty good, I get 58 down and 10 up from Comcast. I pay $18 only, which includes cable modem rental.

 

[Fenderputty]

So does anyone use direct TV satellite internet and how bad does it suck?

 

[RobbieNick]

Does dish Network offer internet service? That's what my mom has and I know she won't want to change because she loves her RFDTV redneck channel...and FOX news. I rant at her every time she watches that damn channel.

 

[RottenTanuki]

I have to admit Optimum has been pretty good for the four years I've used them (even though those idiots ran the New York Knicks into the ground).

 

[RottenTanuki]

So does anyone use direct TV satellite internet and how bad does it suck?

One of my cousins in Buttfudge Nowhere had satellite internet and it sucked like bad DSL.

 

[Wag]

I have FIOS and have been having some serious issues w/Netflix over the past month (and I have a 75/35 connection with a DNS service too). I just can't seem to get HD streams no matter what I do.

 

[genjiZERO]

I figured as much. Netflix has been ass for a couple of weeks now.

This is just going to promote piracy.

 

[gcubed]

Sucks for us because Cogent host our services and our customers who have verizon are having problems getting to our stuff.

yeah, that definitely sucks... its definitely been poor form on both companies, although i'm not sure what the guys in charge of cogent were thinking when they decided to bid low on carrying netflix and just assuming their existing peering contracts would remain unchanged.

 

[SimleuqiR]

 

[Fenderputty]

I'm stuck with either Fios or TWC ....

 

[WeAreStarStuff]

I have Verizon Fios and for about the last month or two it will almost never stream movies on Netflix in 1080p at night. During the day it's fine, but once it's late evening or so, I'm stuck at 480p, and it'll jump up and down from 720p every now and then.

 

[poopninjamvc3mk]

i have fios. they throttle youtube all of the time too (at least for me). sometimes the videos just refuse to load or only load a bit and then just stop. if i copy the url and connect via a proxy server the video loads immediately 100% of the time. never fails.

its ridiculous to me because i pay $80/month for fast speeds. i'm a "premium" customer. why are you tampering with my ability to use the service that i pay for?

I have fios and have 0 problems with youtube but the time my brother came over and used his netflix account last month felt pretty janky

 

[mackattk]

Here's the weird part about all this. As a subscriber, you PAY Verizon (or whatever ISP) to provide you bandwidth to access the things you want. As a subscriber, you also PAY Netflix to access their content.

What sort of content is Verizon providing in all this? Why do they feel like they fit into the equation? You're already PAYING for their bandwidth. Verizon has zero original content that subscribers want.

Cable/internet providers are probably looking over at Android and Apple and wondering why they can't get a 30% cut of purchases made through their channels. So they are probably thinking "Why should netflix get all the profit using our wires. Meanwhile we are losing out on lower subscriber numbers to cable and premium channels and PPV movies/events." So they will do what they can, and make those services unappetizing by instigating throttling and bandwidth caps.

I don't really get how data caps work. So if you are paying for 80 mb/s internet through FiOS you still have x amount of data you can have before being capped/ throttled?

Yes, basically. if you have 100mbps service, and blow through your 250GB in 5.5 hours, you are done on the internet for that month, unless you pay for more data at a going rate of $10/50GB.

 

[UltimaPooh]

Google Fiber will save us. These other companies will shit themselves hopefully.

It'll be forever before that happens.

KC is still not done. Austin has not even started.

 

[BigDug13]

Throttling legit video streaming services would just push me towards getting things like House of Cards through illegitimate methods where I'll have whatever quality version I want offline.

So I'm not sure why Verizon thinks this is a good thing to do as it will only push more people towards piracy.

 

[Plinko]

Fixed. If you think the PS3 is bad (the original fat PS3 is much worse than the slim ps3s) then I hope youre ready for the wifi on the PS4 because it is absolute garbage.

I had wifi problems regularly on PS3. My PS4 hasn't given me one.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I really love Optimum. Even their basic service is pretty fast and they do very little of this throttling bullshit.

Their television package pricing is out of control but that's another story.

I agree. I cancelled their cable service about a year ago but still have their basic internet and couldn't be happier.

 

[Tragicomedy]

Cable/internet providers are probably looking over at Android and Apple and wondering why they can't get a 30% cut of purchases made through their channels. So they are probably thinking "Why should netflix get all the profit using our wires. Meanwhile we are losing out on lower subscriber numbers to cable and premium channels and PPV movies/events." So they will do what they can, and make those services unappetizing by instigating throttling and bandwidth caps.

That's the point, though. Netflix isn't getting all the profit using their wires. Last I checked, Verizon charges a hell of a lot more for their monthly bandwidth usage than Netflix does to access their streaming content.

As a customer, you pay Verizon for bandwidth. You don't pay them for access to specific sites, you pay for bandwidth. Verizon is willfully slowing down access to particular sites, claiming those sites are taking up too much bandwidth...WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY COMPENSATED THEM FOR.

Why should they decide how their customer base uses the allotted bandwidth it has paid for? I'm still failing to see what original content Verizon is pushing? They provide the dumb pipes we use to access content from other providers, that's all.

 

[Ludicrous Speed]

I was having issues with Netflix on Comcast this weekend but I think that may have just been due to the new season of House of Cards releasing. It's running fine now.

 

[RangersFan]

Optimum is great for internet but absolute shit for TV. The picture quality and compressing of channels is such shit compared to FIOS. Thankfully when I was living on Long Island with IO I only used the internet download my shows. Watching was a nightmare at times with certain channels either looking like shit or having artifacts or complete signal loss. Once I hooked up FIOS to my panasonic Plasma it was like night and day difference of pq.

 

[gtrunner]

Internet is a fucking utility.

State and local gov't should treat it like Water and Electricity. This is one of the biggest infrastructure changes this country needs.

Providers are gonna have to be reined in.

This, most jobs require you to apply online. Internet access is more important than a phone line today.

 

[On Demand]

Yep, during peak hours it takes me a good like 15-20 minutes to get out of 388 SD into 720p HD. It's fucking awful.

Oh boy.

It's real annoying watching it stay in 480p for 10 minutes, then jump to 1080p, 1080pSHD, then back down to SD until it stays in 720p.

The Wifi antennae in the PS3 is actually just horrible.

Fuck you, monopolies. Fucking hate this shit, Fiber needs to roll out ASAP.

I'm using a wired connection.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

The Supreme Court only hears a select few cases. It is also a court of appeals.

There's also the standing thing. The court doesn't much care for class action cases. They need specified damages protected by the constitution or violation of law.

 

[gatti-man]

Wow suddenlink is good? Color me shocked I've never really liked their service tbh.

 

[DarkFlow]

Here's more on the latest speed index put out by Netflix:

http://blog.netflix.com/

Woohoo @ being 3rd. So glad Cox stayed the hell away from Comcast and Time Warner.

 

[Partition]

Based Cox, never change

 

[Heel]

Looks like Comcast and Netflix may have reached some kind of agreement. Will have to check out stream quality tonight.

http://arstechnica.com/information-...-gained-direct-connection-to-comcast-network/

 

[Vyer]

Looks like Comcast and Netflix may have reached some kind of agreement. Will have to check out stream quality tonight.

http://arstechnica.com/information-...-gained-direct-connection-to-comcast-network/

I was just going to post in here that Netflix had been shitty on Comcast for me for months....up until about a week ago.

 

[PhantomFear]

Here's more on the latest speed index put out by Netflix:

http://blog.netflix.com/

Oh god. No wonder it takes forever for Netflix to reach HD quality on my Comcrap connection.

 

[demon]

Internet is a fucking utility.

State and local gov't should treat it like Water and Electricity. This is one of the biggest infrastructure changes this country needs.

Providers are gonna have to be reined in.

Absolutely. Anything that is used by virtually everybody and requires really large scale physical infrastructure should be at least partially socialized. Having one giant corporation control the internet is like something out of dystopic sci-fi movie.

 

[clav]

Absolutely. Anything that is used by virtually everybody and requires really large scale physical infrastructure should be at least partially socialized. Having one giant corporation control the internet is like something out of dystopic sci-fi movie.

The problem is the movie is the reality.

 

[Dead Man]

The legal area monopolies are what is so bizarre to me about the US internet market. The government should provide or control the infrastructure, and resell access to every company that wants to try and make a buck.

 

[paskowitz]

Here's more on the latest speed index put out by Netflix:

http://blog.netflix.com/

Go Optimum!

 

[KissVibes]

Verizon is throttling netflix to force people to use that shit show redbox instant.

 

[Cipherr]

This is why we need google fiber to blow up and become a legit competitor.

Google Fiber will save us. These other companies will shit themselves hopefully.

Its nice that Google Fiber will sidestep this shit, and Im happy to be in an area thats its available in soon, but we will need more than fucking Google to fix this shit in the U.S. guys. Google alone aint gonna change shit for 99% of us. We need some other LARGE catalyst to get this crap sorted.