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[Vice] Spermageddon: The Male Fertility Crisis

poodaddy

Member
I managed to get my wife pregnant while she was on birth control. I had no idea there was an actual low sperm crisis with men. It just seems so odd and foreign to me, and somehow kind of makes me feel bad for getting a vasectomy....don't know why though and that doesn't make sense.

Perhaps if most men ate better, exercised, took care of themselves and sat around less their sperm counts would be higher. The average man I meet out and about now tend to sad, lazy saps, and that doesn't tend to add up to the breeding equation.
 

Armorian

Banned
I bet there's a strong correlation between sperm counts and testosterone levels.

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Rien

Jelly Belly
I heard Brett Weinstein and his wife Heather talking about this. Pretty concerning.
 

INC

Member
Probably due to the amount of drugs our parents were doing in the 70-80s
 
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Isn't vice the same rag that did the testosterone levels of its male writers? The punchline being that they all scored below 70 year old males.
This is kind of strange. Testosterone levels that are used for reference labs are for 18-39 year old men. Even if you order testosterone levels for older men, they're still compared to 18-39. Additionally, there's no "normal" testosterone level.

This thread seems to be borderline on "liberulls npc SOYBO", but there are probably some more obvious realities.

% of US population that is obese; fat = increased estrogen levels for men.
% of US population in sedentary jobs, which is a transition from the early 1900s until now
time spent commuting taking away from "recreational time"
Trash quality food
Air pollution in urban areas, and additionally over half the country has moderately bad air quality right now. The Front Range has had unhealthy air quality for 3 weeks or more at this point in a row [edit, today is the first day the front range is NOT in an air quality advisory, after we had 40+ mph winds yesterday and a front go through]. The people I see outside riding bikes are starting to wear masks, not from covid, but from the trash air quality. I haven't ridden after work in 3 weeks because of the air quality. There are some really interesting studies regarding this, and I've wondered if this correlates in part to the eradication of insect populations beyond just insecticides. We also see this happening in dogs, but dogs are also eating trash quality foods.
Ground/air/water pollutants like microplastics.

Edit: Made a few grammatical changes. I was dead tired when I wrote this and went to bed shortly thereafter.
 
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Soodanim

Gold Member
Earth’s population is estimated to hit a peak of 9billion then start decreasing, but they might have to change that.

What if it’s a conspiracy to decrease populations over time because eugenics tends to be frowned upon
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Aging and Sex are conclusively shown to be evolution's evolved defenses to evolving predation, and in the absence of predation, they will eventually become undone-leading to a strange and bizarre world where humans eventually will evolve immortal lifepsans, and become 100% female who reproduce solely through parthenogenesis (female self-cloning) As bizarre as it sounds, examples of many types of animals where asexual reproduction already occurs are provided. Including animals as complicated as turkeys, sharks, and lizards Homosexuality, usally ignored by evolutionary biologists, is examined and shown to also be a defense agasint evolving predation that acts as birth control for what evolution perceives as less fit (predator-stressed) mothers. Even human religion as an evolved defense to famine and drought is explored and explained with a special emphasis on the high rate of religious suicide associated with various religions and cults. Sex and Aging are examined and shown to be a species-selected defense to evolving predation that is being selected for at the local ecosystem level virtually everywhere and all the time..

Thankfully we have technology too, we can keep men in the game, but otherwise the future is indeed female.

This was foretold in end of evangelion(available on netflix, iirc)
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I've already reproduced and fulfilled my genetic imperative. From here on out it's all gravy. I can die happy.

I'm in the process of reproduction, incomplete state.
 
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Earth’s population is estimated to hit a peak of 9billion then start decreasing, but they might have to change that.

What if it’s a conspiracy to decrease populations over time because eugenics tends to be frowned upon
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covid causes miscarriage, I hear number of miscarriages increasing, and it will likely be difficult to contain the variants.

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as for me, I believe children should only be born under optimal conditions, optimal environments. If everyone is made sterile and needs tech to reproduce, that is akin to requiring a license to reproduce, which is how it should be.
 
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Croatoan

They/Them A-10 Warthog
Children in the future will have to be born in test tubes. I listened to a pod cast about this and the science basically says we are fucked, and nobody knows why.

It's not just sperm either. Miscarriages are going up sharply as well.

To add to this, I have apparently been shooting blanks my entire life. Part of 1% of men on the planet that are sterile. Found out a year ago...
 
Children in the future will have to be born in test tubes. I listened to a pod cast about this and the science basically says we are fucked, and nobody knows why.

It's not just sperm either. Miscarriages are going up sharply as well.

To add to this, I have apparently been shooting blanks my entire life. Part of 1% of men on the planet that are sterile. Found out a year ago...
Miscarriages are probably due to woman waiting to have kids later in life.
 
Children in the future will have to be born in test tubes. I listened to a pod cast about this and the science basically says we are fucked, and nobody knows why.

It's not just sperm either. Miscarriages are going up sharply as well.

To add to this, I have apparently been shooting blanks my entire life. Part of 1% of men on the planet that are sterile. Found out a year ago...

My guess is that a decent portion of men will be unaffected or only mildly by the changes and still be able to reproduce naturally. Maybe it'll just be the top 20% healthiest. Might end up being that being born a fertile man is like winning the lottery some day.


We are living pretty unnatural lives. Lots more office jobs, lots more unhealthy food. I think modern life is uniquely stressful when compared to living in earlier time periods. I know I know, everyone wants to be like "Hey, there is no tiger going to eat you now," or some such "back in my day."


You are exposed to an incredible amount of information these days, including in modern advertising. You just didn't get this kind of stimulation in the past. Also, I know everyone has a different experience with the job market but I think that a lot of jobs that currently exist are particularly stressful. Lots of competition for work, always someone willing to take your place. I've heard of people barely doing a thing and making 100k, maybe this is just people bragging, but that's not been the experience of mine or anyone I know. Anyone I know who is even making 40k is working very hard, at jobs that are stressful, and where their supervisors almost go out of their way not to give any feedback so even if you've been somewhere for more than a year you really have no clue if you are going to be given the boot.


I spent many years after college doing temp work in my field before I got what I consider to be a decent job. So imagine you turn 18, you go to college while working at Starbucks or Wal Mart and living with your parents, and then you do temp work that only pays slightly better than those jobs for three or four years before you have enough experience to actually have a chance at a job that pays a living wage. If you knew exactly what you wanted to do and went to college, and chose a viable field when you are 18, it's going to be about 25-26 before you are actually making a living. How many people make bad decisions at 18 because they didn't have good information? Or couldn't figure out what they wanted to study till they were 22-23?


I don't think people were meant to live like this. In order to have a good life you have to make a lot of good decisions, and from a fairly early age or you are going to be way behind and not get your stuff together till your early or mid 30's. With some exceptions depending on your career field, you basically aren't an adult until your 30. Have the effects of that been studied? I personally wouldn't be surprised if changes in the social environment accounted for part of the problem. I bet living with your parents until you are 30 and the mental effects of feeling powerless because of their inability to immediately earn a living is actually quite devastating mentally to many.
 
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