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[ForAcademicPurposes]

We are talking about beauty and not everyone will agree on what beauty or attractiveness is. It's not objective but SUBJECTIVE...

This woman is curvy (boobs, hips, butt, thighs) ... She's beautiful to me (I've met her in person... Everything is real) ... She's beautiful and attractive

Ashley Graham is plus size... She looks like many women out there... Especially after a kid or two. To ME, she's pretty and attractive as well.

These are some other plus size models I found that are pretty and at least FORWARD FACING attractive to me (don't know if their butts are round or not... And I mean it's shaped like the Letter C when seen from side profile)

I think these are the perfect "cut-off" sizes for a Victoria's Secret runway show. You have diversity in body shapes and sizes and they're STILL beautiful women.

I realize some guys LOVE them some girls who are much bigger than these women ... But they're in a minority. I don't have anything against them. I get that MANY of y'all do.

I think they're overcorrecting and it's making them look bad

 

[Days like these...]

I like woman of all shapes and sizes mostly.

Here you go.

 

[cormack12]

Here you go.

If you look closely you can see deaftourette stuck under that joint of gammon she calls an arm, making his way down like he's down the back of a sofa looking for cash.

 

[DeafTourette]

If you look closely you can see deaftourette stuck under that joint of gammon she calls an arm, making his way down like he's down the back of a sofa looking for cash.

That's not attractive to me. I posted what I find attractive, and this size/shape wasn't one of them.

Silly LoL

 

[Putonahappyface]

Here you go.

Did you miss "mostly"?

 

[cormack12]

That's not attractive to me. I posted what I find attractive, and this size/shape wasn't one of them.

Silly LoL

Top one is OK, the rest are

'Average' is not a good take either, as average now is much heavier than just a decade ago when the average was the best.

Average girls now do fuck all, think thicc means flabby giant asses and don't generally look after themselves - except at the all you can eat

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

We are talking about beauty and not everyone will agree on what beauty or attractiveness is. It's not objective but SUBJECTIVE...

This woman is curvy (boobs, hips, butt, thighs) ... She's beautiful to me (I've met her in person... Everything is real) ... She's beautiful and attractive

Ashley Graham is plus size... She looks like many women out there... Especially after a kid or two. To ME, she's pretty and attractive as well.

These are some other plus size models I found that are pretty and at least FORWARD FACING attractive to me (don't know if their butts are round or not... And I mean it's shaped like the Letter C when seen from side profile)

I think these are the perfect "cut-off" sizes for a Victoria's Secret runway show. You have diversity in body shapes and sizes and they're STILL beautiful women.

I realize some guys LOVE them some girls who are much bigger than these women ... But they're in a minority. I don't have anything against them. I get that MANY of y'all do.

I think they're overcorrecting and it's making them look bad

 

[ResilientBanana]

great, can't wait to see the freak show. Put on the ugly parade for me. I'll be judging, playing smash or pass, while you lumber all the way down the runway as you're heavy breathing, mother fuckers.

 

[BigDeadFreak]

We are talking about beauty. You claim that beauty comes in many forms, without certain standards. That's wrong.

Beauty resonates with our soul, it's objective and measurable in every aspect of life: music, arts, looks.

A fat model is gross. Anorexic ones are, too. We all know what beautiful men and women look like, bullshit aside.

As for the "male dominated" argument, I wanna believe you aren't implying that evil 100% non-gay white men are the ones deciding beauty standards. I want to believe you don't mean such stupidity.

That's such a stupid opinion. It is an objective fact that not everyone finds the same things attractive. Why do you think there is so much porn featuring women who don't look like those Victoria Secrets models? Who's watching that?

As for music and books, what you're saying is beyond retarded. How many copies did the Epic of Gilgamesh sell last year? How much lute music did you listen to this week? Fashions for these things change over time, as with female beauty. Unless you think foot binding looks good?

 

[FunkMiller]

Sigh.

Not everything needs to be for everybody. Thats when everything becomes a dull, homogenised mess.

Let Victoria Secrets keep using hot, thin girls. Plenty of other brands out there for the big chicks.

 

[DeepEnigma]

We're not talking about male models... And the fashion industry is largely gay male dominated (behind the scenes) ... THEY decide what models to hire. Not women.

FTFY

 

[CGNoire]

Lets face it. If men stopped watching this show, woman would stop watching immediatly afterward. Thats a fact.

 

[FunkMiller]

 

[violence]

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20mvl3pr1vo

The lingerie brand's catwalk show was scrapped after its 2018 edition drew low ratings as well as criticism that it was sexist, outdated and lacked diversity.

Something tells me it was shut down due to ratings and not woke buzzwords but the spells have worked again and they've added XY chromosome people.

 

[Sonik]

Models are supposed to be attractive but there's many kinds of attractive. There's thin attractive, curvy attractive, thick attractive, plus size attractive... I understand HIGH FASHION prefers stick thin models because they're supposed to represent clothes hangers ...

I think this is overcorrecting... Like a lot of things that were overwhelmingly one type before NOW trying to be more diverse and overcorrecting.

Nah, obese people aren't attractive and if you do find them attractive it's just your fetish. Millions of years of evolution have trained out brains not to find unhealthy people attractive and it's how it should be

 

[ForAcademicPurposes]

Make Sydney Sweeney a Victoria's Secret model and I'm fucking game.

 

[Putonahappyface]

 

[DeafTourette]

Nah, obese people aren't attractive and if you do find them attractive it's just your fetish. Millions of years of evolution have trained out brains not to find unhealthy people attractive and it's how it should be

Umm... Fat women were considered desirable not that long ago. It meant they could cook and raise children.

And there's a difference between plus size and obese. Obese is at a BMI of 30 or higher. The women I posted (after Khrysti) aren't up there.

 

[Sonik]

Umm... Fat women were considered desirable not that long ago. It meant they could cook and raise children.

That's a dumb myth, furthermore what was considered fat back then is considered thick now and actually obese people were put in circuses because they were literally considered freaks. Throughout history very few societies even considered obesity as something even remotely normal, let alone attractive, and rare exceptions only prove the rule, not the opposite

 

[DeafTourette]

Top one is OK, the rest are

'Average' is not a good take either, as average now is much heavier than just a decade ago when the average was the best.

Average girls now do fuck all, think thicc means flabby giant asses and don't generally look after themselves - except at the all you can eat

When I lived in Atlanta until this summer, the body sizes/shapes I posted were what I mostly saw on the streets ... So more anecdotal but still those sizes/shapes were the norm. Not the bigger sizes/shapes.

 

[violence]

My guess is back then you had to be “well off“ enough to get even get fat.

Today you just have to have a lack of restraint to get fat.

I was gonna say no artists actually painted fat women but I’m wrong. I never researched this, but apparently there are 1800s artists who actually did paint fat women. Probably commissioned art.

 

[TDiddyLive]

The AVERAGE woman looks like what I posted physically... Obviously they won't all have faces like supermodels... But the body types (except for Khrysti) are what most average women look like.

What world are you living in that you believe that body type is average? Sure, the average woman isn’t skinny, but if I went walking in a mall that body type would be way heavier than average. Hell, it would be slightly high walking around Walmart.

Just because you like women that cause financial loss to buffets doesn’t mean you need to ignore reality.

 

[jason10mm]

When I lived in Atlanta until this summer, the body sizes/shapes I posted were what I mostly saw on the streets ... So more anecdotal but still those sizes/shapes were the norm. Not the bigger sizes/shapes.

Dude, the Americsn Sputh is literally the fattest place ON EARTH. Your mind is playing tricks on you. Just a few decades ago every woman you posted would have been thought pregnant as the only explanation for how women so young could be so fat. Now we know it's the sugar.

 

[DeafTourette]

Dude, the Americsn Sputh is literally the fattest place ON EARTH. Your mind is playing tricks on you. Just a few decades ago every woman you posted would have been thought pregnant as the only explanation for how women so young could be so fat. Now we know it's the sugar.

My home state of Mississippi is worse than Atlanta...

And Atlanta isn't Georgia... Well, it is and isn't. Less huge chicks, more chubby like what I posted.

I don't know what the rest of Georgia is like but Atlanta actually has plenty of women working out and they have a LOT of vegans. Atlanta isn't the SOUTH south.

I almost went snarky and said "where is the American Sputh?" LoL

 

[DeafTourette]

Top one is OK, the rest are

Um... Just ok? Small waist, pretty face, big titties and round C shaped booty... Is JUST OK?! And she's all natural? (Like I said, I've met her at a shoot)

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Ancient Kate Moss plus nepp baby and transgender? No thanks not fapping to that. But good luck to them I hope they sell a bunch of underwear or whatever.

 

[Ribi]

Sexy = sexist

 

[Cyberpunkd]

plus size attractive...

If you have a foodie fetish.

Also, VS as compared to their runway show is thrash tier - these are cheap low quality items.

 

[Little Mac]

Back in the day we celebrated beauty ... not type 2 diabetes.

 

[StueyDuck]

is it Victors secrets now

 

[JimmyRustler]

Models are supposed to be attractive but there's many kinds of attractive. There's thin attractive, curvy attractive, thick attractive, plus size attractive... I understand HIGH FASHION prefers stick thin models because they're supposed to represent clothes hangers ...

I think this is overcorrecting... Like a lot of things that were overwhelmingly one type before NOW trying to be more diverse and overcorrecting.

No offense, we all know who says „curvy“ is beautiful.



Sorry for the cringe end of the video. Wasn’t able to find a short version without it.

Women should have to put effort to be on this stage. You know, training and dieting. Overeating and then getting make up put on by professionals is not showing effort.

 

[BigDeadFreak]

No offense, we all know who says „curvy“ is beautiful.



Sorry for the cringe end of the video. Wasn’t able to find a short version without it.

Women should have to put effort to be on this stage. You know, training and dieting. Overeating and then getting make up put on by professionals is not showing effort.

How much training do you think the likes of Kate Moss did back in the 90s? Most of those women never saw a gym in their lives. They just smoked, took coke and starved themselves. I'd hardly call that effort.

 

[The Cockatrice]

No offense, we all know who says „curvy“ is beautiful.



Sorry for the cringe end of the video. Wasn’t able to find a short version without it.

Women should have to put effort to be on this stage. You know, training and dieting. Overeating and then getting make up put on by professionals is not showing effort.

The only thing this proves is that women hate themselves. They all knew they were full of shit and made it worse for the fat chick when the men sorted them out. If they were real from the start, the blow would've been softer. Fake confidence only to get destroyed is ouch, but at the same time, maybe it opened her eyes to be more healthy.

 

[GymWolf]

The only thing this proves is that women hate themselves. They all knew they were full of shit and made it worse for the fat chick when the men sorted them out. If they were real from the start, the blow would've been softer. Fake confidence only to get destroyed is ouch, but at the same time, maybe it opened her eyes to be more healthy.

I get what you mean, but Unless the fatty was a retard with zero self-awareness, she perfectly knew what game the other women were playing, i doubt she was surprised by anything tbh, the women putting an act or the men going straight for the jugular.

 

[The Cockatrice]

zero self-awareness

More common than you think. Most people who go on these shows are because no one with any common sense would.

 

[GymWolf]

More common than you think. Most people who go on these shows are because no one with any common sense would.

You have a point, it's just hard to believe because i feel like most people who are accused of lacking self-awareness, deep down actually have self-awareness and faking to not have it is just a defence\coping mechanism.

 

[The Cockatrice]

You have a point, it's just hard to believe because i feel like most people who are accused of lacking self-awareness, deep down actually have self-awareness and faking to not have it is just a defence\coping mechanism.

I guess we will never know. Hopefully shes mentally ok nowadays and this didnt destroy her. If anything the asian chick certainly got a massive confidence boost. She needed it.

 

[March Climber]

DeafTourette entered the thread already knowing his fate

 

[JimmyRustler]

How much training do you think the likes of Kate Moss did back in the 90s? Most of those women never saw a gym in their lives. They just smoked, took coke and starved themselves. I'd hardly call that effort.

What do you want to prove with your anecdotes? Even if that is true, it was hardly the norm. Adriana Lima, Giselle Bündchen, Naomi Cambell and most of the other super models were known for their rigorous diets and trainings.

 

[winjer]

I get what you mean, but Unless the fatty was a retard with zero self-awareness, she perfectly knew what game the other women were playing, i doubt she was surprised by anything tbh, the women putting an act or the men going straight for the jugular.

But the thing is, men were 100% honest. The women lied and propped up the "fatty" top be disappointed.
The women didn't do her any favor by lying about her attractiveness.
In fact, they did her wrong, by setting her up like that.
It probably wasn't intentional to screw with her like that, but still, they did her no favors.

 

[Hotel Security]

It's like the males don't want to admit they like beautiful women or something...like it's offensive to say so. Somehow we don't complain about the parade of beautiful women who get parts in movies that don't fit them but them walking down a runway is terrible? If I ever see an eye-rolling 110-lb female FBI agent in a movie again, it'll be too soon.

As for the Kate Moss comment, sorry, but a large amount of these models clearly take care of themselves and most have a gym and workout routine. Not to mention hours working on hair and constant skin care. You don't wake up with that hourglass figure and abs, sorry. I feel that it's only single people who put this down since anyone living with a gal knows how much time they put in to their looks.

 

[GymWolf]

But the thing is, men were 100% honest. The women lied and propped up the "fatty" top be disappointed.
The women didn't do her any favor by lying about her attractiveness.
In fact, they did her wrong, by setting her up like that.
It probably wasn't intentional to screw with her like that, but still, they did her no favors.

Yeah i know this, my doubt is how much was the fattie surprised by women doing that, she probably had female friends doing that for her whole life.

 

[winjer]

Yeah i know this, my doubt is how much was the fattie surprised by women doing that, she probably had female friends doing that for her whole life.

Unless she has an IQ under 80, she probably realized that men were not swarming over to her, for a reason.
But her friends also didn't do her any favors, if they did that.

I had a friend, that when he was a teenager, he was quite fat. And we made fun of him.
We weren't downright mean to him, but we did tell him the truth, in a humorous way.
When he got to college, he decided to start a diet and do exercise. His looks improved a lot, and so did his chances with the ladies.
If everyone just pretended he was alright, he probably would have never gotten the drive to change and better himself.

 

[GymWolf]

Unless she has an IQ under 80, she probably realized that men were not swarming over to her, for a reason.
But her friends also didn't do her any favors, if they did that.

I had a friend, that when he was a teenager, he was quite fat. And we made fun of him.
We weren't downright mean to him, but we did tell him the truth, in a humorous way.
When he got to college, he decided to start a diet and do exercise. His looks improved a lot, and so did his chances with the ladies.
If everyone just pretended he was alright, he probably would have never gotten the drive to change and better himself.

I know this is real and it probably happen a lot, but i can't fathom real fatties to be this dumb.

When i was fat i was not even close to be obese (125kg for 190 cm) but i knew that i was fat and women didn't liked that, no compliments from my mother or friends ever changed that (but they were mostly honest, sicilians are pretty straight forward people)

How fucking stupid you can be to not look at yourself in the mirror and be honest with yourself?!

It's just so hard to believe that these people don't know better and just fake to be clueless, even in this crazy world where they are trying to change what beatiful means, real beauty and fit bodies are still praised to hell and back in any form of media.

 

[DeafTourette]

Unless she has an IQ under 80, she probably realized that men were not swarming over to her, for a reason.
But her friends also didn't do her any favors, if they did that.

I had a friend, that when he was a teenager, he was quite fat. And we made fun of him.
We weren't downright mean to him, but we did tell him the truth, in a humorous way.
When he got to college, he decided to start a diet and do exercise. His looks improved a lot, and so did his chances with the ladies.
If everyone just pretended he was alright, he probably would have never gotten the drive to change and better himself.

You didn't shame him... You told him the truth in a way he would eventually get.

Shame doesn't always work. It can make things worse for the person who needs the change. Knowing her or him (like you knew your friend) can help tailor how you get through to them. No matter what it is.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Back in the day we celebrated beauty ... not type 2 diabetes.

 

[Sub_Level]

I’ll stick to 4K youtube try-on-hauls

 

[StreetsofBeige]

A Victoria Secret thread and all I see are gigantic women even fatter than I am or a trans guy in lingerie.

I love watching Married with Children (older episodes seasons 2-5), and Kelly Bundy is about 9764x better looking than any of the pics in this thread

 

[BigDeadFreak]

What do you want to prove with your anecdotes? Even if that is true, it was hardly the norm. Adriana Lima, Giselle Bündchen, Naomi Cambell and most of the other super models were known for their rigorous diets and trainings.

It's not an anecdote, it's well documented that models use drugs to stay thin.

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It's amazing how triggered some people get when they find out not everyone fancies the same women as them. Why should women have to make an effort to look a certain way in order to be on stage? What difference does it make to anyone if there are curvy women on stage?

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

DeafTourette entered the thread already knowing his fate

Sigh.

Not everything needs to be for everybody. Thats when everything becomes a dull, homogenised mess.

Let Victoria Secrets keep using hot, thin girls. Plenty of other brands out there for the big chicks.

Yep stick to what sells which is hot, pretty face, thin/fit women

Not these fugly chubbos and not these men pretending to be women