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[Golden Darkness]

GC version: http://www.psx2tech.com/ToSGC.avi

PS2 version: http://www.psx2tech.com/ToSPS2.avi

Being an owner of the GC version, I can say... bleh!

Source: http://psx2tech.com/talesofforum/viewtopic.php?t=81

 

[Naked Snake]

Give me the verdict.

 

[AniHawk]

The PS2 version doesn't look too different. The load times suck in comparison though.

 

[dark10x]

Cool comparison...

They look very similar visually, but the GC version obviously runs at a higher framerate (which I knew anyways, but can actually be seen in these videos) and loads quicker. The textures in both versions are kinda poor (especially in comparison to SO3), but the PS2 seems to have slightly lower resolution textures (though, in this case, they look about the same).

The only problem is that they did not show the same areas on both versions.

GC version is obviously better, though. Shame that neither sports 480p...

 

[MoxManiac]

Wow, hideous. The battles look like they are being played in slow motion on PS2. I'll stick to the GC version, I didn't know the frame rate difference was that big.

 

[dark10x]

Wow, hideous. The battles look like they are being played in slow motion on PS2. I'll stick to the GC version, I didn't know the frame rate difference was that big.

Battle speed should not be different, though...

Don't judge speed of gameplay on these videos...

 

[MoxManiac]

Well, perhaps, slow motion wasn't the correct term - the frame rate was totally gutted though. It's kind of like how Capcom and SNK fighters were raped when ported to PSX, except frame rate was the victim, not animation frames.

 

[maskrider]

I would like to know the capture setup, the PS2 captures has patterns that look like a composite video feed, the GameCube one looks to be a S-Video feed. Not very sure about it until the author post the capture settings.

May be the PS2 version has flaws that creates those patterns but the screens looks a bit too soft to me.

I can't verify as I only have a Japanese GameCube TOS and haven't thought of getting the PS2 version.

EDIT: Some screens that I had just done, not the same location as I don't know where is that, heh ! I hadn't really played the game yet.

GameCube on S-Video -> DScaler

 

[kiryogi]

Battle speed should not be different, though...

Don't judge speed of gameplay on these videos...

Heh, if you read PP or that topic. Cless says the videos make the battles look better

 

[dark10x]

Heh, if you read PP or that topic. Cless says the videos make the battles look better

Pretty awful port, then...

 

[kiryogi]

Yup, i was discussing this with Scott in my channel. XD Poor PS2 owners.

 

[cvxfreak]

Yuck @ PS2

 

[dark10x]

They should have asked TriAce for some help on the graphics engine...

Their teams are still somewhat related, right?

 

[duckroll]

They should have asked TriAce for some help on the graphics engine...

Their teams are still somewhat related, right?

They did, then but then Tri-ace said "Shit what's with these interesting characters?! You MUST make them all bland, boring and almost realistic in proportions!"

After leaving their offices disgusted, the Namco team then considered how every Tales game NOT on the GC sells twice that of any SO game and laughed.

 

[dark10x]

They did, then but then Tri-ace said "Shit what's with these interesting characters?! You MUST make them all bland, boring and almost realistic in proportions!"

After leaving their offices disgusted, the Namco team then considered how every Tales game NOT on the GC sells twice that of any SO game and laughed.

Ha ha, you're just pissed 'cuz lots of people actually love Star Ocean 3 despite your admittedly noble attempts at preventing that from becoming so.

Don't worry though, those Tales guys are already certified experts when it comes to making bland ass games...they just need help with the technical side of things now (Another ultra blurry texture?! What is this, October 26th of the year 2000?).

*WARNING: possibly exagerated and also possibly lacking anything known as reason*

[Tales employee with oversized クレス hat] "Hey guys, wanna make a new game?"

[Tales employee wearing an FFX-2 tee] "Nah, let's just make the same game that we alreadymade last year!"

[Tales employee now wearing Xenosaga floaty devices]"Yeah, good idea! Isn't it awesome how we can make the same bullshit over and over again while good Namco games like Klonoa sell like shit and die off?"



*puts on "60 fps 4 life" hat*

What the f*ck did I just post?! Damn, I really need some breakfast!

:footsteps:

 

[MoxManiac]

ToS has interesting characters? Are we playing the same game?

 

[Drinky Crow]

Yeah, of all the accusations to level in a SO3 versus ToS thread, claiming Symphonia has more interesting characters is NOT the right one to pick.

DFS' description of ToS as "a boiler explosion at the anime cliche factory" is about as apt as you can get.

 

[dark10x]

DFS' description of ToS as "a boiler explosion at the anime cliche factory" is about as apt as you can get.

Ha ha, indeed.

 

[djtiesto]

Yeah, Cless and I were discussing this yesterday, he says the framerate was made 30FPS, but it drops quite frequently, graphics are much blurrier (the ground details look N64 quality), though the sound is a bit better. He says overall, it's a horrible port and people should definitely stick to the GC version.