Viewtiful Joe 2 (GC) = $29.99 @ ebgames.com

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capbomb. this rather confirms my suspicion that gamecube fans liked the first more out of patriotic obligation than genuine enthusiasm for 2d action games. at this rate i might as well wait for it to hit $20.
 
I loved the first Viewtiful Joe, but that doesn't mean I'm ready to shell out another $40 to play it again 1 year later. Also maybe if they had released it at a better time I would have payed full price, but right now there are just too many other high priority games that I want to play.
 
drohne said:
capbomb. this rather confirms my suspicion that gamecube fans liked the first more out of patriotic obligation than genuine enthusiasm for 2d action games. at this rate i might as well wait for it to hit $20.
You do realize that Viewtiful Joe 1 was an extremely novel concept within the media at the time and everyone was heaping mounds of praise on it for both it's unique look and as a throwback to the old classic design. Not to mention that the game was hyped from it's public inception of the Capcom 5 so there was already a large amount of interest going for it. This sequel did not get that much praise or interest from public outlets and the GameCube library has a more major games to steal the thunder from Viewtiful Joe 2. There is no crazy Nintendo manifesto going on, it's just a simple analysis of public interest.
 
if gamecube fans liked viewtiful joe half as much as they claimed to, they'd be buying the sequel in numbers. and the primary reason the sequel isn't generating fanboy hype is that there's a ps2 version. which really does suggest that the first one was hyped to the moon on its status as an "important, credible" gamecube exclusive rather than its merits as a game.

i thought viewtiful joe was stylish but sterile. didn't have the momentum and immediacy of a really good arcade game. i couldn't understand the hyperbolic praise. looks like i'm now on the same page as everyone else. but i'll pick up the sequel when it's cheap.
 
drohne said:
capbomb. this rather confirms my suspicion that gamecube fans liked the first more out of patriotic obligation than genuine enthusiasm for 2d action games. at this rate i might as well wait for it to hit $20.
.... patriotic obligation to what exactly?

Personally, I'm going to buy the game, but just not now. I can't afford it and there's no point in me buying it when I won't get around to playing it for a few months anyway. Releasing the game in this holiday season of 2004 was just not a good idea, heh.

The game also arrived just a little too early in my mind, almost to the point where I quite haven't accepted the fact that the it has even been released yet. Chances are, I'll be perusing around EB sometime in February, bored out of my skull and I'll come across it by some random chance at 25-30 bucks (CAD) and think to myself "Shit, I forgot about this ... what a deal though." and I'll proceed to buy it.

So yeah, I loved the first one and I'm sure that I'll love the second one, but I still have to have my priorites. Either that, or invent a way to generate infinite amounts of money and a way to slow down time.
 
Well if you're talking about public opinion on the internet then I'm sure half the hype was because it was a fantastic GameCube exclusive but most of all the journalistic praise came because of there being genuine interest in the title regardless of the platform. The first one was hyped to hell in all marketing outlets, this one wasn't at all. It's nice to beleive that a singular platform can be carried by a throng of adoring fans but in this modern era with the massive number of sales being generated I don't think that's happening. Fanboys don't make up a majority of sales. Again there is no crazy Nintendo manifesto at work here, there simply wasn't enough public interest generated.

I can also understand the lack of interest from the multi-console owning crowd considering the unbeleivable quantity of stellar and highly marketed titles availabe at the same time. Viewtiful Joe 2 was a fun game but choosing between that and MGS3, GTA:SA, Halo 2, Half Life 2, Metroid Prime: Echoes, and even Paper Mario 2 (for the GC only crowd). I'm not that suprised it was completely ignored with those choices and I only provided just a fraction of the big sellers available for the year.

Is VJ2 really doing that bad?
 
drohne is right, did you nbots miss the meeting? We worked out a deal with the vast right-wing conspiracy.
 
nintendo fans display such instinctive herd behavior as to preempt any need for a conspiracy. karl rove must envy nintendo.
 
drohne said:
nintendo fans display such instinctive herd behavior as to preempt any need for a conspiracy. karl rove must envy nintendo.
I love how you quickly turn to infantile name calling when you don't have an adequate answer. I wasn't even arguing with you, I was providing an opinion of mine which may or may not have been correct. I felt that was the possible answer but if you had any decent evidence or opinions proving otherwise I'd be more than willing to accept and learn from it. I was actually looking foward to any hard evidence being provided since I was merely giving opinions and personal insight on the matter.

Considering your replies though it seemed that I have wasted my time giving you the benefit of the doubt. I still hold hope but right now it's looking grim.

FYI: I'm quite FAR from being a Nintendo fanboy. In fact it'd be ludicrous to assume I'm a fanboy of anything.

EDIT: Oh ok, then I apologize. It's my own fault I suppose for jumping to conclusions. I still do look foward to your input on the matter if you feel it's worth the time. I know this discussion is hardly important but I don't actually have any hard evidence so I'm hesitant to rely solely on what I perceive to be what's occuring.
 
Didn't this game just come out? Granted this is only one online site, it seems kind of early to be dropping the price considering alot of people buy games after Christmas with giftcards. I don't think the game selling poorly has anything to do with it no longer being Cube exclusive. I'm still planning on picking it up along with RE4, PoP:WW and CoD:FH. None of them are Cube exclusive. I think the problem is there are just too many games to choose from right now and most people can't afford them all. VJ2 also hasn't recieved anywhere near the hype it's predecessor did. Can anyone compare the sales of VJ2 against some other games that were recently released on GameCube? I think the Cube in general is just loosing more support from it's owners. Public perception of them continues to get worse and worse.
 
I bought the first Viewtiful Joe because all the gaming publications were proclaiming it to be the second coming. I didn't enjoy it very much, but some may like it.
 
Seriously, this isn't VJ or the system's fault - it's Capcom's. Who releases this in mid-November, with all the other shit? Idiocy.
 
With all the stuff released in November, I expect VJ2 is just the first of man y price drops for many titles.

Is this price just online or in store too?
 
drohne said:
if gamecube fans liked viewtiful joe half as much as they claimed to, they'd be buying the sequel in numbers. and the primary reason the sequel isn't generating fanboy hype is that there's a ps2 version. which really does suggest that the first one was hyped to the moon on its status as an "important, credible" gamecube exclusive rather than its merits as a game.
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VJ2 isn't selling either cause its not exclusive or people just bought the original VJ on hype and didn't like it

there's really not much for VJ2 to contend with cause the big game on the GC this year is just MP2, last year VJ had much tougher competition in Mario Kart DD
 
Link316 said:
VJ2 isn't selling either cause its not exclusive or people just bought the original VJ on hype and didn't like it

there's really not much for VJ2 to contend with cause the big game on the GC this year is just MP2, last year VJ had much tougher competition in Mario Kart DD

VJ came out a month and a half before MK DD in the US. And the gap was much bigger in Japan. The gap between VJ2 and MP2:E is around 1 week.

Plus, MK DD is only one game. This year VJ2 has to compete with Paper Mario 2, Mario Tennis, MP2:E, Baten Kaitos not to mention games on other platforms.
 
Just to let you guys know that this price drop is only temporary for the holiday sale season, and that VJ2 will go back to it's normal price of $39.99 around/after Christmas.
 
Wouldn't it make more sense to raise the price after the holidays, if this is the case? If they revert back to the old price it's going to bomb bigtime.
 
explodet said:
Too many damn games in November.
Yes. I loved the first game, but this has been the most overcrowded season ever. A too-soon sequel with minimum upgrades goes on the "Wait 'Til It's $20 Next March" list.

Drohne, are you just stirring up the rubes, or do you honestly believe this shit? It's Olimario-level warped.
 
Kumiko Nikaido said:
Just to let you guys know that this price drop is only temporary for the holiday sale season, and that VJ2 will go back to it's normal price of $39.99 around/after Christmas.

so this is instore as well?
 
deadlifter said:
Wouldn't it make more sense to raise the price after the holidays, if this is the case? If they revert back to the old price it's going to bomb bigtime.

Yeah, it'll be back to $40 by the time the new year rolls around. It's on sale now to move more stock. :)

swoon said:
so this is instore as well?

Yup, in-store as well! :D
 
You can now get it for $24.99

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On Act 4, u r fighting Alaster again. In the boss intro cutscene, he said he won't introduce himself again and told the audience to pick up VJ 1 in store for speical price.... how ironic.
 
Regardless of all these conspiracy theories as to why the game isn't selling well, which has more to do with the timing of the release than any console factors, I do just want to note that the game is $30 in most places lately, as Target had the game for $24.88 this past week as Wario64 noted in a previous thread.

I just recently went through it and it's a great follow up, despite not being quite as novel as the first. It's a bit of a shame Sylvia isn't more useful, but it's definitely worth picking up for $30, and there's a good chunk of added replay value in the sequel. Contrary to what drohne suggested, I find it's a great game to pick up and play, particularly with the Reel Select and 36 Chambers modes. As for the sequel coming too soon, it should be noted that the original game hinted at a sequel and a third game as well, and VJ2 directly implies a 3rd game is in the making. So all things considered, there will be a VJ3, so please don't be so surprised if it shows up next year.
 
I bought VJ1 at launch, and it was great,
and I was gonna get VJ2 because of Co-Op play.

But when they took that out,
it kinda felt like they were throwing the same experience at me again.
Maybe I'll get VJ3 if Co-Op makes a comeback.
 
Viewtiful Bomb. I guess releasing on PS2 didn't help matters much, either.

I agree with Dacoco, though... sequels that haven't been changed or upgraded or evolved much are coming out way too soon. How about waiting a while and fleshing things out more? *looks at EA, Ubi Soft, and Capcom*
 
thank goodness it's not GC exclusive, otherwise people on GAF will be like, it'll sell ten times that number if released on PS2
 
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