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Visions of Mana Releases August 29 | Launch Date Trailer Released
Pejo
Member
His default look is pretty bad, can't argue that. Some of his alt costumes aren't quite so bad. But the other male character is a furry, so...
GymWolf
Gold Member
No it was more a matter of seeing a male name with abs but with very feminine, delicate face.
If you only judge from the face\haircut dude look like an anime girl 100%.
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Pejo
Member
Yep very effeminate. These don't look AS bad but it's essentially still the same head:
GymWolf
Gold Member
Maybe it's just the cover then, these looks...ok.Yep very effeminate. These don't look AS bad but it's essentially still the same head:
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I hope they give us a demo
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Combat looks good. A lot more animated sequences with special moves. Cool to see the turtle is back.
Pejo
Member
Trials of Mana remake has a demo, and I'm sure the mechanics will be similar but refined versions of that.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Already played through it (and the SNES version) a few times
Hudo
Member
The Trials of Mana remake really surprised me. It's one of the very few instances where it clearly tried to punch way above its weight and mostly succeeded. At least for me. Great fun.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I really enjoyed it as well. It was very faithful to the original while improving on it in many ways. Battle system reminded me of Ys which is a great thing. Agreed about punching above its weight… it felt like they managed to do a lot with a small budget.
Only big downside for me is that Charlotte’s English VA is a crime against humanity. I refused to use her in my party.
Stamps1646
Member
Please don't be a bad port on PC <3
darth.shrimp
Member
Chawlotte is pawt of the weason I used the Japanese voices and the Restoration of Mana mod.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Yeah she’s at least tolerable with the Japanese VA.
Kevin’s VA is pretty bad too, but he’s the best party member so no way I’m leaving him out.
Hudo
Member
I refused to have her in my party for the same fucking reason. Lmao.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Thankfully she’s the worst party member anyway, considering you can easily handle your healing needs with items instead of spells.
Shake Your Rump
Member
I'm jealous that you have so much free time and zero backlog to be asking for a demo of a game you will undoubtedly purchase day one.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Who says I have zero backlog? I’m just really excited for this game and want to try it out. Plus S-E often does demos that transfer to the full game. They did that with Trials of Mana remake.I'm jealous that you have so much free time and zero backlog to be asking for a demo of a game you will undoubtedly purchase day one.
Stafford
Member
It's a crime in itself to play JRPG in English. Or well, that's my opinion on it of course. It's more often than not atrocious. Japanese voices all the way.
darth.shrimp
Member
Oh, she brings a lot more to the party than healing. I bring her in almost every game.
In my Ninja Master/Starlancer party? Sage for the elemental sabers (with Attack Saber) and the passive stat-up auras.
In my Archmage/Lord party? Evil Shaman for Demon Breath (magic down on the enemy), passive stat-down auras, and increased elemental damage for the party. Haha Angela goes brrr!
In my Deathhand/Fenrir Knight party? Bishop for a little bit less support than Sage but light saber and turn undead, in a scenario shock-full of high level undeads toward the end.
In my Swordmaster/Nomad party? Necromancer for a full stat-down on bosses (improved with Riesz's super stat down abilities from the previous game, for the lulz) while Hawk buffs the team. That's the party I used to one-shot the Black Rabite by the way.
There is no party she can't improve, without even bringing her healing to the table.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Fair enough she’s got her uses. Lots of her abilities can be covered by items though. And one thing that kinda sucks about buffs is they wear off at the end of battle so they’re kinda pointless for all the trash mobs.
Might give her another shot with JP audio and Restoration of Mana mod, which I just learned de-retardifies her uwu dialog.
Shake Your Rump
Member
I can understand about half of what is said in spoken Japanese, mainly due to the speed of the speech. It just isn't fun to stare at subtitles through an entire JRPG. It's useless for learning (you would use Japanese voice and text for that) and distracting if you just want to play the game.
Hudo
Member
I dunno, I found the English dub of DQ8 and DQ11 pretty good. Or the English dubs of recent Atlus games. And the English dub of FF12 is superior to the Japanese one, imho.
Stafford
Member
These are all games I haven't really played. It sounds like there are some actually decent ones then.
Hudo
Member
If you ever have a chance to play them, I'd be interested in what you think.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Sometimes but not always. Japanese VA can be REALLY melodramatic and sometimes very irritating with shrieking high-pitched girl voices and wacky comic relief characters. Usually picking English vs JP is like trying to pick the lesser of two evils.
Also have to agree with the the other suggestion for Final Fantasy XII. The writing and English VA are excellent. Almost feels like they wrote it in English first.
digital_ghost
Member
I had english subtitles. Click on the CC buton on the youtube video and click auto translate to english.No subtitles...
Pejo
Member
It was a true livestream not a recorded one, so they didn't have subs available while it was aired. Looks like they've been added retroactively now.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Danjin44
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These gorgeous! Cant wait for this game.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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They really are. Looking forward to the game's release as well!
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Crayon
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Only question is digital or physical?
Should I complete the collection?
I was looking at their steam page for the sale last night and this game really caught my eye. Only now did I realize a: these make a pretty cohesive set, b: all in physical.
It's always a struggle not to play games until I want to play them though.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Variahunter
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Final fantasy starting with X has always had good English voices, barren some characters here and there. FFXII is top notch for instance. FFXVI was good too.
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Variahunter
Member
Really not a fan of Haccan’s work. It feels a bit sterile to me.
But already preordered the game, Mana is my favorite series of all time. Oyamada seems to be a fan too and we owe him the resurrection of the licence.
Ryosuke Yoshida is one of the director on this game, he worked as battle planner on MH, DMC at Capcom. So I hope the battle system is much better than Trials, because that one was dull and repetitive.
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Fabieter
Member
There are a few instances where other options are better than japanese but it's pretty rare tho. Most people prefering english just want to have their native language.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
So our choices are:
- dragon girl
- sexy princess with a whip
- samurai cat dude
- ….8 year old androgynous boy in underpants
Please Square… don’t make this kid OP and make me feel obligated to use him…
Stafford
Member
They are all turn-based aren't they? A real small chance I'll play them anytime soon then. I just can't truly enjoy TB.
Hudo
Member
Yeah, the mainline Dragon Quest games as well as most Atlus games are turn-based. Although Atlus' games have their own style of turn-based where you can have multiple actions per turn if you exploit weaknesses of enemies in a clever way. Almost feels like Tetris if you are in the flow, imho.
FF12 is actually real-time with pause, imho. But the cool thing about FF12 is the Gambit system, which is a system where you can program actions of your party. It's divisive but I like it quite a lot.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Yeah as someone who can’t stand the tedium of traditional turn based JRPG battles anymore, I love Final Fantasy XII.
Under the hood the mechanics work similarly to other ATB FF games, but it lets you automate everything to your exact specifications. So all those braindead simple repetitive decisions like “attack the enemy with the lowest HP”, “use fire on the guy who’s weak against fire”, “use Curaga if HP is low” (aka like 95% of what you do in JRPGs) all happens automatically, FAST (thanks to fast forward), and no battle transitions.
And TBH I found that setting up my gambits just right to be more engaging and strategic than the actual battles in most turn based JRPGs.
Wish we’d get more games with systems like this. It feels like the final evolution of the old ATB system.
Variahunter
Member
It's not like Mana games were hard to begin with... just play the char you like.
My team won't use Julei. I don't think anyone ever wanted a sproutling to be an actual playable character.
Otherwise, the cast is great :
- Val is an obvious throwback to Randi from SoM (with a nostalgic armor from Seiken 1 as part of a Deluxe edition). His hairstyle could have been closer to Randi though.
- Careena seems cool, being a Dragon girl, which is also a throwback to Legend of Mana
- Morley is both a throwback to SoM/ToM/Legend with the Cat people and an obvious hommage to Hawkeye as a DEX character. They gave him both a Katana and Daggers, and I'm wondering what is the third weapon for him ! Would love a Fuma Shuriken or Claws.
- Paramena fit the princess role from all Seiken since 1. She's given the Whip and a Scythe which is a new weapons for the series.
- Julei fits the Sprite/Dwarf spot, as a callback to Popoi from SoM and Charlotte from ToM. And obviously comes from Legend for the Sproutling race. Can't say I'm a fan though. Kinda sad we don't have another Lycan like in Trials, or a Malevole Vampire which could have been so cool...
Maybe there's a secret character, we never know ! After all, ToM gave us 6 characters so it's not impossible.
Hudo
Member
This is why I would only recommend the Zodiac Age version. This fast-forward easily elevates this game from a 9/10 to a 10/10 for me.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
FF12 is in top 3 FF of All Time. The Zodiac Version really improves the game too
Hudo
Member
Finally someone who is of sound mind.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
That video really lured me in. I've now pre-ordered the game.
Hrk69
Gold Member
This looks really promising
Danjin44
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Yup, I’m planing to play both Secret of Mana and Trials of Mana before this comes out. I don’t I can finish both in time but I hoping I can finish one of them.