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Walmart tells record industry to lower their price on CDs or else.
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Late Stage Marxist
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"I'll make 'em an offer they can't refuse."
Drensch said:
They've even been looking into getting into the arms race. Wal-mart for world leader in 2012. With its rate of progression and development i dont doubt that they will have a 80% hold in a lot of markets by that time.
Ted:
They started carrying parental advisary cds like two years ago here in frenso california. They've got one of the largets Hip-Hop/Rap sections than even Target. so it might just be your area.
Late Stage Marxist
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I bought a 50 cent single from Wal-Mart and it was Parental Advisory. Don't know about full albums, though. Usually buy CD's online or small stores.
If CD prices dropped, i'd rather it come from overwhelming consumer demand over the monopolistic desires of a company exerting it's power, especially one that feels it needs to protect me from the evils of unedited CDs.
And come to think of it, i don't think i've never bought a CD from Walmart. No DVDs either. i bought Golden Sun on a whim (it was a whopping two bucks cheaper) and my fire SP there, but that's the extent of my entertainment media purchases from them.
And come to think of it, i don't think i've never bought a CD from Walmart. No DVDs either. i bought Golden Sun on a whim (it was a whopping two bucks cheaper) and my fire SP there, but that's the extent of my entertainment media purchases from them.
Optimistic
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aoi tsuki said:
Me too, but in the end as long as the cds are cheaper I don't care how it happens (within reason of course).
jecclr2003
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Sorry I dont care how low they take the price I will NEVER buy a cD from a store that SUPPORTS censorship.
Whyu do they feel it's neccesary to take over for the parents? I swear the culture these days and the complete lack of responsibility for its actions really burns my ass.
SEL THE DAMN THINGS WITH THE PA STICKER! IT'S THERE FOR A REASON! AND STOP CENSORING MUSIC YOU HYPOCRITICAL RIGHT WING NAZIS! You edit music, yet have NO problem selling R rated movies to anyone that wants them without editing them.
Whyu do they feel it's neccesary to take over for the parents? I swear the culture these days and the complete lack of responsibility for its actions really burns my ass.
SEL THE DAMN THINGS WITH THE PA STICKER! IT'S THERE FOR A REASON! AND STOP CENSORING MUSIC YOU HYPOCRITICAL RIGHT WING NAZIS! You edit music, yet have NO problem selling R rated movies to anyone that wants them without editing them.
Alcibiades
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jecclr2003 said:
uh, it all comes down to the labels and studios...
many movies are censored or edited to make sure they can be released or to make sure certain versions will sell more.
same thing with music, if the labels don't want to censor them, they don't have to, but they are slaves to the market place, and consumers (dumb or not, righteous or not) have chosen Wal-Mart due to low prices...
Wal-Mart isn't the problem, because they are only the middle-man between the people and the corporations... they attempt to produce the best relationship so they are most profitable, but believe me, if there was a demand from consumers about censorship removal (through boycott of Wal-Mart music CD's), they'd know it.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
I'd go back to buying CDs at that price. I haven't gone retail since the late 90's.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
Not to mention increasing the quality of content. Regardless of genre, music is not so good these days.
Tritroid
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No, the Walmart hate is unjustified. They're really great stores, but I think people want to hate them because of the whole 'evil corporation bent on ruling the world' thing.Vormund said:We don't have walmart here in Aus....I guess we are lucky by the way you guys talk.
Frankly, I have no problem with walmart calling the shots. As long as I can buy literally everything that I need at the local Super Walmart (which is the biggest walmart in Kentucky), they won't hear me complaining.
Optimistic
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DaCocoBrova said:
That's ridiculous, you just have to look harder.
No, they're a shit company for many reasons. I'll point out a few: They treat their own employee's like dirt, they often break the law and cut corners in order to save money, they ruin smaller, but higher-quality businesses, they ruin whole communities and towns by encouraging urban sprawl (They destroy the whole downtown/main street idea and turn it into parking lot and messy ailes), their stores are horribly designed and almost always a mess, their employee's take the crap they get from Wal-Mart and pass it on to the customers and their commercials are freaking annoying.Tritroid said:
I refuse to ever give Wal-Mart my money because all they stand for is laziness and cheapness.
However, I certainly hope they succeed in this situation. That'll be at least one good thing they've accomplished.
Willco said:
Maybe, have you noticed that Best Buy now uses their DVD pricing scheme with their CD's? For the week they are releases the big hit DVD's are usually 15.99, after that week they go up to their regular price of $19.99. New release big hit CD's are $9.99 the week they are released and then the week after go back up to their regular price. There are some variations but that's the general pattern.
DarienA said:
It's a popular practice among all the major retailers nowadays. The problem is that Best Buy's regular price is so much higher than the discount retailers.
So let's say you want an album that's already been out for a week or two, you can buy it at Wal-Mart or Target for $9.99 or Best Buy for $14.99 - $17.99. Lame!
Best Buy and Circuit City annoy the hell out of me with their regular price marks, which are insanely high. My belief is that the only thing that justifies a higher price than other retailers is if you're a specialty store or have an insane amount of selection. Like FYE or Tower Records and such.
Teddman said:
Which is why even if I shopped at Wal-Mart, I wouldn't buy my CDs there. This is the one, the single, solitary case in which I hope the RIAA wins. Because Wal-Mart is the scummiest corporation on earth, and I swear to God, I would give nearly anything to see the chain collapse.
Tritroid said:
Uhh, Wal-Mart is widely viewed to be the most aggressive retailer in the marketplace. They move into areas and destroy local businesses by undercutting them in price. For every 2 jobs they create, 3 are lost. Now, I'm not going to explicity state they're "evil" - they reduce the need for jobs because they streamline everything and get incredible productivity out of a low number of employees - but the fact is that they are putting small retailers across the country out of business. And while we don't feel the need to be outraged when wal-mart puts the pressure on record companys to lower prices, they do it for everything in their catalog. This forces suppliers to buy cheaper and cheaper goods from off-shore manufacturers who use near-slave laborers to ensure a profit margin. Hell, the fact that they consistently beat out Microsoft on the list of "bad" corporations should tell you something.
alejob said:
Because if you take a look at the larger picture, you're paying for those low, low prices in other ways. Either in "cheaper," lesser quality products, companies that will go out of business because Wal-Mart is killing their bottom line, or unemployment, as your company's product, in order to be competitive in Wal-Mart's world, needs to move your job offshore so they can save as much money as they can.
Wal-Mart is the retail equivalent of crack, and a lot of companies are hopelessly addicted.
LinesInTheSand
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Weird, at my Best Buy I'ven ever had to buy a CD for higher than like $11.99 ... same with Circuit CityWillco said:
wandering goat
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I don't believe I've ever bought a CD in Walmart. Not that there's much of a selection to begin with though.
One somewhat related question: Is Walmart Canada different from the one in the US? I keep hearing online how Walmart is such crap, how only "rednecks" shop there, etc. I honestly don't have bad things to say about any Walmart I've been to in Canada. It's a place that most people seem to go to buy stuff that has great prices on most things and no one's ashamed of it or anything. So what's the deal? I can understand hating them because of how they can drive smaller places out of business, but the store for me seems to be quite good. I know in Canada at least, something like 80% of the stuff they get is from Canada. I also never found products there to be cheaper in quality than other places, unless you're exclusively buying Great Value brand products.
[edit] I can see similar questions have already been asked, but in particular I'm wondering about the hate Walmart gets for its general quality, not for the repercussions of its existence.
One somewhat related question: Is Walmart Canada different from the one in the US? I keep hearing online how Walmart is such crap, how only "rednecks" shop there, etc. I honestly don't have bad things to say about any Walmart I've been to in Canada. It's a place that most people seem to go to buy stuff that has great prices on most things and no one's ashamed of it or anything. So what's the deal? I can understand hating them because of how they can drive smaller places out of business, but the store for me seems to be quite good. I know in Canada at least, something like 80% of the stuff they get is from Canada. I also never found products there to be cheaper in quality than other places, unless you're exclusively buying Great Value brand products.
[edit] I can see similar questions have already been asked, but in particular I'm wondering about the hate Walmart gets for its general quality, not for the repercussions of its existence.
Manabanana
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I don't think we have any Wal-Marts around here (Minneapolis). This is Target land. I think Target started here, though
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