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WaPo: Trump challenges senators to resurrect Obamacare repeal effort: Were close'
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Well, yeah, the moose has a good record of taking on Boris and Natasha
darkstar0155
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Ok, I should have said "whatever political capital he has left". I think he has pegged too much of his clout on repealing healthcare. If this fails, he becomes just about a lame duck president already. The house and senate will just start doing what they want and ignore him.
I H8 Memes
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He's so stupid. He is the embodiment of the fox news viewer. He's too stupid to know that R's were never really trying to repeal the law. He's the president now and he is still too naive and stupid to understand any of it.
Meanwhile any R with brains is like "ixnay on that shit Trump. Why would you bring that up?!"
John Rabbit
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It is, quite literally, every day that the narrative on this changes.
DeaconKnowledge
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Does congress even listen to Trump? Doesn't feel like they do.
NullPointer
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Of course he waits until its officially recognized as dead before really getting involved. A last ditch effort to turn back time and avoid the humiliation that is already upon them.
Yeah Donald, so close.
Republicans lose if they can't provide better healthcare, and none of their power blocks that are gumming up the current works are trying to achieve that. They're attempting to gut Obamacare without affecting people, without angering people, and without losing them seats when the people make their voices heard. Its an impossibility for them to do alone, but they keep fucking that chicken.
Yeah Donald, so close.
Republicans lose if they can't provide better healthcare, and none of their power blocks that are gumming up the current works are trying to achieve that. They're attempting to gut Obamacare without affecting people, without angering people, and without losing them seats when the people make their voices heard. Its an impossibility for them to do alone, but they keep fucking that chicken.
I H8 Memes
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Seems he has more sway over the House than the Senate.
Neuromancer
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Are they really though? Seems to me they're just treading water and not really doing anything.
PeakPointMatrix
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Wow what a deal maker.
Well, haven't Murkowski and Capito already survived primary challenges from the right? How much leverage does Trump/far-right have over Collins and Portman? He would have to flip at least two of these.
Murkowski won via a write-in campaign I believe. That's about as safe as you can get.
As stupid and useless as he is, he understands one thing: Working with 'those people' will immediately lose him the support of his completely brainwashed base.
Those days are gone, and they're not coming back in the foreseeable future. You can thank Hannity/O'Reilly/Limbaugh and the like for this.
Autodidact
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See avatar face.
He is so petty that he'll probably fund primary challengers against anyone who opposes him.
He is so petty that he'll probably fund primary challengers against anyone who opposes him.
The guy truly is a psychopath.
One day he says "Oh fuck it just repeal it and dump millions of people out of their insurances and fuck the pre existing conditions" and the next he says "We are so close, we have the best plan".
It's not a pen you have in your hands, you Orange mongrel.
It's a very tiny penis.
Go shake it and leave the politics to the sane people (well, some of them gotta be sane and decent, right?).
One day he says "Oh fuck it just repeal it and dump millions of people out of their insurances and fuck the pre existing conditions" and the next he says "We are so close, we have the best plan".
It's not a pen you have in your hands, you Orange mongrel.
It's a very tiny penis.
Go shake it and leave the politics to the sane people (well, some of them gotta be sane and decent, right?).
TheCochese
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Voiceover: "They weren't."
darkstar0155
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Being in Ohio, I get the feel that portman has a decent amount of support across both R's and D's (as much as you can). This is the state that has Kasich as the governor and has decent approval ratings I think. Ohio isn't deep red, its barely red at all really and I would say its more blue then red when it comes to state wide voting. I have a hard time seeing Portman seriously being challenged on the right. Plus he's probably hoping trump loses in 2020 so Portman can run in 2024.
because a black man did it
You are a poet.
BobNewbert31
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SoundofSilence
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He's obsessed because he can't quite get his head around the fact that a black man in a white man's world was far more popular than he'll ever be.
Wet Bloodfart
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They're not close on shit. He's a fucking idiot.
WhiskerFrisker
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How does he know the people of a state very well? He uses the same set of words every single time. This guy is a broken record.
Well the aspect of Obamacare that's so bad is the aspect that's always been bad in healthcare in this country. It's fucking expensive and keeps getting moreso. Yes, Obamacare didn't cause that and even helped curb that, but that's not really good enough for people. People want to be able to afford healthcare. Republicans then jumped right on the attack when it was passed and before and blamed everything on Obamacare. They turned it into an entitlement battle again and gave people this false notion their insurance was going up because they were having to pay for the lazy (brown) people.
The short of it all is that "Yes your healthcare still sucks, but it sucks less than it did so let's work on some more solutions" is way too fucking complicated compared to "Your healthcare sucks and that side of the political spectrum didn't help at all. Tear it down!"
Robdraggoo
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I wonder if he tried to fire the senators before being told he couldn't
WhiskerFrisker
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Electric Eye
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He'll huff and puff and so will his backer groups but it won't work because they are fighting againt a GOP proposed law not a democrat one backed by "moderates" reps so they have no narrative of a boogie man. They are also going to be so busy fucking up on other bills and proposal all this will be a distant memory to the gnat brained republican voters.
His inability to grasp common political strategies has actually been a benefit in this case. He pushed for repeal and replace to happen at the same time and it destroyed everything. And he wasn't even wrong to push for it! Delaying for two years is a pure bullshit strategy and he was right to call it out...not that he knew why, but still. It just happened to show how fucking terrible republicans are.
Dear dumb fuck,
If you want those senators to vote it why don't you try selling it to the American public? Do you think that the bill being as popular as getting pissed on by a Russian hooker has anything to do with why some GOP members don't want to vote for it? If so, drop the threats and actually do some work. Research why they should vote for the bill, how the bill will change our healthcare system for the better, and what benefits voters living in those states will receive once the plan goes into...
I know you stopped reading by now, which is why you will never accomplish anything worthwhile.
If you want those senators to vote it why don't you try selling it to the American public? Do you think that the bill being as popular as getting pissed on by a Russian hooker has anything to do with why some GOP members don't want to vote for it? If so, drop the threats and actually do some work. Research why they should vote for the bill, how the bill will change our healthcare system for the better, and what benefits voters living in those states will receive once the plan goes into...
I know you stopped reading by now, which is why you will never accomplish anything worthwhile.
Including the people that voted for him! So common to hear "he's just saying those things" when asked how people can vote for this guy.
To Far Away Times
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And yet no republican can prepare a detailed and articulate analysis how Wealthcare would be better for the lower and middle class.
The takeaway here is this is strictly an anti-Obama measure, it has nothing to do with even an attempt to move the country forward.
The takeaway here is this is strictly an anti-Obama measure, it has nothing to do with even an attempt to move the country forward.
omg dude
Trump Leadership
Yeah, he's the only guy in Washington that doesn't understand that congress passed those repeal bills because the bills were purely symbolic. They knew Obama would veto them.
He's that dumb.
Wasn't there that one report about a GOP rep. talking that Trump didn't seem to realize this was a tax bill?
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Any senator that could use Trump's help knows where to find him. He's helpful with... stuff. He can sign his name, for example.
No it ain't.
I'll believe it when I see it.
With 50 votes I think the repeal will pass. Putting it back on the table like this makes me nervous.