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Warhammer 40,000 |OT| In the Grim Darkness of the Community Forum There Is Only War
- Thread starter GarthVaderUK
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Is this a new style of plastic kit that the models come in? I remember the plastic marines and eldars I bought were the multi sheets where you had to put everything together basically.
I was so bad at putting models together and painting them. Was only 9 or 10 years old, I wish I had taken the time to really learn how to assemble and paint them.
Edit: Nvm just looks like this particular sku is built that way.
Is this a new style of plastic kit that the models come in? I remember the plastic marines and eldars I bought were the multi sheets where you had to put everything together basically.
I was so bad at putting models together and painting them. Was only 9 or 10 years old, I wish I had taken the time to really learn how to assemble and paint them.
That is a simplified kit for beginners. The normal kit has a lot more parts and you can do a ton more with it.
I have a HQ space marine that is all I have left from my warhammer stuff I should paint up and post. Maybe by next week.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Those Dark Eldar are damn fine, son.
AbsolutBro
Member
Grabbed the Salamanders version of the book. Considering ordering some Centurions at some point, but I want to give the book a read and see their cost/options first. Definitely want the new Sternguard box, even though I generally have 0 interest in actually running sternguard. So many options!
I am going to SLOWLY start to build a marine force. My problem last time with just buying too much at once and getting really overwhelmed. One unit at a time and paint them up should hopefully keep that at bay.
I would love to run Guard but the $ investment is insane cause their troops are so cheap.
I would love to run Guard but the $ investment is insane cause their troops are so cheap.
AbsolutBro
Member
Also check eBay. Honestly I rarely buy direct from GW because their prices are so high. You could also try something like TheWarStore.com, although ordering GW stuff from them is a bit more complicated than your usual shopping cart. They usually offer ~20% off though.
And I definitely feel you on the "overwhelmed by models" thing. GW had a special gaunt box with 120 gaunts in it awhile back. Mine aren't even off the sprues yet.
My FLGS does 20% off GW stuff so getting it for cheaper is pretty easy. Yeah I would never pay full retail for GW stuff, its very easy to get at least 20% off even new from most places.
Night Hunter
Banned
I haven't played Warhammer for a long, long time but I have thought about it in recent times. So how does it work, nowadays? Is it all plastic or are the tin models still around? Because I hated those.
AbsolutBro
Member
Mostly plastic, though a few older models are still metal. Those are generally direct order only now. There's also "Finecast", which is a resin that I believe is also being phased out in favor of plastic. The new SM releases, for instance, are all plastic.
Cosmic Schwung
Member
Clearly it needs a pin in there!
Night Hunter
Banned
Good. I especially hated the metal ones because you couldn't really modify them. After I lost interest in playing the game I thought about just painting and especially modifying them a lot, because I always loved that. Especially with the Space Marines, as you could really make every miniature it's own if you just put the time and effort in. Back then I played Blood Angels, but after I actively stopped playing I thought a lot about collecting Salamanders. The look of the Salamander Hides just really appeales to me. Another possibility were the Grey Knights, they also look fantastic. But in the end, common sense won. Maybe after I get my degree and I start earning some real money. But as a student, a Warhammer 40k collection is just too damned expensive.
I make decent money and would never consider starting a collection.
Deified Data
Banned
Gonna have to hit up the used book stores to find a copy of the Eisenhorn omnibus that a) doesn't cost $40, and b) isn't filthy and covered in grime. Tall order.
Night Hunter
Banned
Well, you are probably right. I just looked at the GW site, and 40$ for a Space Marine tactical squad? That would probably translate to 40. When I started it cost 10 or 15 less I think.
I mean seriously, GW, what the fuck? Are you actively trying to discourage people from playing the game?
AbsolutBro
Member
Yeah, like I said, there are a variety of internet stores out there that sell at a discount. thewarstore.com does 20% off, as an example. eBay is another popular spot, especially as people get out of the hobby they tend to move whole armies at cheap prices. Out of the 8 total armies I have (6 for 40k, 2 for fantasy) I'd say under half of my models were GW direct purchases.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Almost finished with DoW II: Retribution single player. I'm a bit disappointed that each race's campaign are the same missions just presented a bit differently to give them a reason for being there.
I ended up going with the Space Marines again just because the first game and expansion were about them so I might as well see how their story ends.
Surprisingly there's a small community of players still active in the game.
I ended up going with the Space Marines again just because the first game and expansion were about them so I might as well see how their story ends.
Surprisingly there's a small community of players still active in the game.
It's not like I need to buy new models to paint. I just went there to pick up fresh brushes and looked at the models if there were any reasonable priced ones for impulse buys. Might go for a daytrip to Tallinn when I got some money saved up and check if there's any minis available there for cheap. Everything else tends to be cheaper there.
Little Old Man
Member
If you're buying used models that are plastic or metal, they're generally pretty easy to strip the paint from. Almost as good as new then.
If I may, I'd suggest picking up Windsor Newton Series 7 brushes. I have the four smallest sizes and with moderate to little care they've lasted me about four or five years now. They're a little more expensive up front but they are quality and will last for a while.
I have no idea if those are available here. I'm terrible about caring for my shit so I tend to buy cheap anyway.
I was just checking this game out and I was surprised to see between 500 and 1,200 active players at any given time.
It's the only DoW II expansion I've tried since the others require GFWL. I'll be more willing to try them if (and/or when) they patch that out of the games.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Yup, I use Dettol to strip minis here in the UK, it works great with both metal and plastic. I usually leave minis soaking in it for a day or so, then put on some rubber gloves and use a soft nail brush when cleaning the paint off - it comes off pretty easily but the paint is a bit gloopy and will stick to your fingers (gloves come in handy here).
Badly painted minis sometimes go for very cheap on eBay, take the paint off 'em and you've got a real bargain!
Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP9w6YA3LuA
If you're ever near a B&N pop into their sci-fi series section, for some reason I have decent luck locating hella out of print releases that way.
BLACK LIBRARY!!!!!!!!
Not only are they all basically the same, but it makes the game feel really limited in scope as a result when really in the universe everything is going to fucking 11. Fighting
Kyras
Retribution's other campaigns are so damn funny though.
I was really into The Last Stand in Retribution before I started fumbling my way through Dota 2. There's a certain catharsis and excitement to it, especially the Anvil of Khorne level.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Can somebody explain me what are those bolt-like things that some Speesh Mareenhs sport in their foreheads?
Every 100 years, you get a bolt.
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Damn.
I really need to get into the books.
I really need to get into the books.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
No GFWL is definitely a plus. Had so many problems with that in vanilla DoW II. After playing it again I really want a DoW III now. But THQ blew up so there's no chance of that.
If you're ever near a B&N pop into their sci-fi series section, for some reason I have decent luck locating hella out of print releases that way.BLACK LIBRARY!!!!!!!!
Not only are they all basically the same, but it makes the game feel really limited in scope as a result when really in the universe everything is going to fucking 11. Fightingat the end of Retribution in the Blood Raven campaign is far less satisfying than the last stand at the end of vanilla Dawn of War II even though it's the culmination of seven games' story. How do you screw things up that bad?Kyras
Retribution's other campaigns are so damn funny though.
I was really into The Last Stand in Retribution before I started fumbling my way through Dota 2. There's a certain catharsis and excitement to it, especially the Anvil of Khorne level.
Things do feel kind of limited considering how they structured the campaign. Kind of takes the wind out of my sails when I play the other campaigns and realize the only reason they are there is because they just made up a reason so they wouldn't have to create unique campaigns.
Another thing that bothered me is
Martellus being alive and not with Chaos. In Chaos Rising he betrayed the Space Marines yet somehow here he is alive and well and not with Chaos.
I played a ton of Last Stand in vanilla DoW II. I'm totally up for a sequel but like I mentioned above THQ is gone and I have no idea where Relic is right now or if they are even in the position to develop a new game.
If a sequel were to happen I'd like it if it was structured like the Kingdom Under Fire games. You can move your troops around Total War style with a useful minimap. When your main commander unit engages in battle you can switch to a third person perspective and personally tear through enemies. That way you get that 40K close combat goodness but also the strategy part as well.
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The person who is tainted is decided by who's got the most chaos inside them.I got Jonah Orion in one play through, and Avitus in another
Sry, was using iPhone, tapped bold instead of spoiler. Hope nobody saw
The traitor in CR is chosen based on whoever is the most corrupted of your units, he's the traitor if all your lads are pure when the traitor is revealed. Somewhere in Retribution the Ancient mentions fighting with the traitor on Kronus, the only two of them on Kronus were
Avitus and Tarkus (the Ancient in Retribution)
I still think of
Martellus
Martellus
Avitus
Dark Crusade
Tarkus
Kyras
I played Chaos Rising and Retribution before vanilla (don't ask) and
Avitus'
e: Time for the best serious moment in Retribution? Yeah it's time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6JaV-jgFHM
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I didn't know corruption affected who the traitor was. I kept everyone pure because I wanted the best ending.
Didn't
Didn't
The Ancient (Tarkus) say on the Space Hulk that he killed the Force Commander? He said that there was another strong Space Marine like Diomedes and he slew him after Kyras tempted him. I don't remember Avitus being mentioned at all. I'll try to find that cutscene online.
Here's the cutscene.
According to the wiki it says the traitor is never named but it is either Avitus or Thaddeus considering Cyrus and Martellus are still alive in Retribution and Avitus definitely participated in the Kronus campaign. But the Force Commander was present for the Tyranid invasion so I don't see how it's not a possibility that Tarkus killed him.
Looking at the wiki for the Force Commander they don't list Tarkus killing him as any of his possible endings so I guess it is Avitus after all. The scene itself seems kind of misleading though. I really thought they were hinting at the FC as the Space Marine that Tarkus killed.
Here's the cutscene.
According to the wiki it says the traitor is never named but it is either Avitus or Thaddeus considering Cyrus and Martellus are still alive in Retribution and Avitus definitely participated in the Kronus campaign. But the Force Commander was present for the Tyranid invasion so I don't see how it's not a possibility that Tarkus killed him.
Looking at the wiki for the Force Commander they don't list Tarkus killing him as any of his possible endings so I guess it is Avitus after all. The scene itself seems kind of misleading though. I really thought they were hinting at the FC as the Space Marine that Tarkus killed.
The
in the Maledictum is what ultimately set
down the path of betrayal. (
was just the fluffer, lulz.)
Why a
is interested in a
is beyond me, but you gotta tie that shit together son, and it's not like it had a problem with
demon
Kyras
Ulkair
Why a
demon of Khorne
psyker
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