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Warner Bros. to Debut Entire 2021 Film Slate, Including ‘Dune’ and ‘Matrix 4,’ Both on HBO Max and In Theaters

‘Matrix 4,’ ‘Dune,’ and the entire 2021 Warner Bros slate will debut on HBO Max and in theaters in a one-year plan due to the pandemic.

variety.com

 

[Evangelion Unit-01]

Warner Bros. will release all of its new 2021 movies simultaneously on HBO Max

For a period of one month in the United States.

www.theverge.com

There are some limitations to the new business model. The movies will only stream on HBO Max for one month before leaving the platform for a period of time. They will also play in theaters, keeping the relationship with movie theater distributors like AMC and Regal. The plan is to run this experiment for one year.

The movies Warner Bros. is planning to release include: The Little Things, Judas and the Black Messiah, Tom & Jerry, Godzilla vs. Kong, Mortal Kombat, Those Who Wish Me Dead, The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It, In The Heights, Space Jam: A New Legacy, The Suicide Squad, Reminiscence, Malignant, Dune, The Many Saints of Newark, King Richard, Cry Macho and Matrix 4. All films will be released in 4K Ultra HD and HDR.

More at the link.

 

[johntown]

Seems like I may have another reason to selectively pay for a month of HBO Max here and there.

 

[TheMan]

that's amazing.

AMC is crying though. I'm going to miss theaters once vaccines are widely distributed and the fuss is over.

also, I'm really curious to know how much HBO paid for this.

 

[Husky]

Aw geez, two threads, which to reply to...
the one with more info in the OP!

That's pretty tight! I fucking hate when some asshole checks their phone in the theater. Much comfier watching at home. Hey, I can even pause and use the bathroom, wicked.

 

[levyjl1988]

Good because no way in hell I would risk exposing myself to Covid-19 to see a movie. I'd rather watch it in the comfort of my home where I can pause and play for bathroom breaks. I don't need audience reactions and uncomfortable seats to distract me.

 

[GloveSlap]

HBO Max is really good. They just need to add 4k HDR for at least their 1st party stuff. It looks like these theater movies will be 4k though so its a start at least.

 

[SirKicksalot]

Meanwhile in Europe

 

[a multicultural team of v]

that's amazing.

AMC is crying though. I'm going to miss theaters once vaccines are widely distributed and the fuss is over.

also, I'm really curious to know how much HBO paid for this.

Doesn't Warner own HBO?

 

[Darkmakaimura]

I predicted theaters would be obsolete in about 10 years before even Covid.

It's pretty much going the way of the video game arcade. Covid just sped it up. This was inevitable.

 

[Stouffers]

Rest in Popcorn, movie theaters

 

[888]

This is the way.

 

[TheMan]

Doesn't Warner own HBO?

I have no idea

checks wikipedia

yup they do

 

[Nikana]

It makes sense but as an avid movie goer before Covid, my heart breaks a little.

 

[QSD]

Meanwhile in Europe

Yep that's what I was thinking

 

[dorkimoe]

Megaton. Fuck yes. I get it free with att cell plan. But this is massive. No extra cost either. Fuck you Disney. And Netflix too busy trying to stay woke cancelling good shows

 

[ManaByte]

Warner Bros Sets Entire 2021 Movie Slate To Debut On HBO Max Along With Cinemas In Seismic Windows Model Shakeup

Warner Bros is putting its 2021 theatrical slate on HBO Max for the films' first month of release, concurrent with a cinema release.

deadline.com

WarnerMedia didn’t have to wait until Wonder Woman 1984 debuted both on HBO Max and in theaters: The Burbank, CA-based Warner Bros is putting its entire 2021 theatrical slate on HBO Max for the films’ respective first month of release, concurrent with a global cinema release.

And get a load of what you’ll be able to see in-home next year: Denzel Washington’s The Little Things, Judas and the Black Messiah, Tom & Jerry, Godzilla vs. Kong, Mortal Kombat, Those Who Wish Me Dead, The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It, In the Heights, Space Jam: A New Legacy, The Suicide Squad, Reminiscence, Malignant, Dune, The Many Saints of Newark, King Richard, Cry Macho and Matrix 4.

 

[bitbydeath]

HBO Max in Australia when?

 

[ManofOne]

As long as they don't release movies at 12:00 am I'm happy. That's CINEMAX time.

 

[Newly Vacant]

This is going to backfire. They're going to lose money.

 

[Boss Mog]

Doesn't that only accelerate piracy. Seems like a bad idea.

 

[Blond]

This is going to backfire. They're going to lose money.

Tenet barely broke even with a worldwide release and it more than likely lost even more money than if they just sold rights to Netflix/Hulu/Etc and got royalties. Theaters are a lost cause indefinitely and The Irishman really showed you can make a 100+ Million Blockbuster and keep it moving from a business perspective, there's nothing more to see here.

Doesn't that only accelerate piracy. Seems like a bad idea.

Not really. Piracy has gone down significantly in both music and movies because streaming is just that much easier. Sign in, select play, keep it moving vs Download, Find a player, figure out how to hook it up to your TV and play it not to mention actually controlling it.

 

[Stitch]

Meanwhile in Europe

HBO stuff usually goes to Sky, but yeah..

 

[Grinchy]

Movie theaters are basically dead. Even the ones that are open, no one wants to go to. The fearmongering worked. People don't want to go anywhere anymore.

I just don't see how you get $1B+ in ticket sales any time in the next 3+ years.

 

[pauljeremiah]

So basically what Film4 have been doing for years? For example, when Ben Wheatley's "A Field In England" came out in 2013, on the same day, it was released in cinemas, released on iTunes, Blu-ray and DVD to buy, and shown on Film4 that night on TV.

Studios should have done this nearly a decade ago. It battles piracy and puts the ball in the audiences court.

 

[trikster40]

Looks like I’m subscribing to HBO max soon.

 

[Whataborman]

Bets on HBOMax increasing subscription fees in 2021?

 

[cryptoadam]

International markets will become even more important and expect most movies now to play to China since they still have Cinema's there.

WB is in a tough spot because they have to pay back their creditors for the money they borrowed to make these movies. They are a sunk cost and at some point you have to make something back and start paying down the interest if not the principal. 50 cents on a dollar is better than nothing.

Feels like its all going according to plan to force these studios into financial ruin and then CCP can swoop in and buy them up on pennies on the dollar. All though having China focused movies is probably a step up fomr SJW crap Hollywood was putting out. At least this might mean no more gender/race swapped reboots and forced diversity editors. China don't play that game.

Well off to the seven seas with me matey's. A pirates life awaits for me.

 

[Stouffers]

Rest in Popcorn or Cup-holder-armrest in Peace?

 

[squallmx]

Yep, cinemas are dead, long live TPB... I mean Streaming.

 

[Hudo]

Well, I'll be there for Dune. HBO are legit anyway, I've quite liked Chernobyl.

 

[Flame_alchemist]

Holy shit thats definitely a game changer, hbo max is gonna be must have in 2021.

 

[DarkestHour]

It doesn’t make sense to only release to theaters and then release digitally later. This is good that Warner realizes this and will release both simultaneously. They’ll still get the theater goers and also people that would never see the movie in the first place.

 

[QSD]

So basically what Film4 have been doing for years? For example, when Ben Wheatley's "A Field In England" came out in 2013, on the same day, it was released in cinemas, released on iTunes, Blu-ray and DVD to buy, and shown on Film4 that night on TV.

Studios should have done this nearly a decade ago. It battles piracy and puts the ball in the audiences court.

off topic but man I tried to watch that movie once on a nightshift but even with some significant experience with psychedelics I still couldn't figure out what was going on

 

[jason10mm]

Damn, I pity any actor or director who signed on with profit sharing!

Warner is gonna be taking BILLION dollar losses on these films.

 

[KAL2006]

If theatres really do start closing down I really have to invest in good surround sound setup at home. I used to go cinemas atleast 10 times a year. As for subs, I stopped subbing a long time as all the content is spread across too many services, Hulu, Prime, HBO, Netflix etc. And where I'm from some services are not even available in the UK. I use a pirating streaming platform that combines all the services into one convenient place, I would pay if all the companies banded together and have everything in one place but unfortunately they don't so it seems pirating is the most convenient way to get content. So will be strange to watch the latest movies day 1 without spending a penny.

 

[pauljeremiah]

off topic but man I tried to watch that movie once on a nightshift but even with some significant experience with psychedelics I still couldn't figure out what was going on

It is one of those WTF did I just watch kind of films.

 

[The New Guy]

I don't really enjoy the Cinema much anymore, but not having it as an option much anymore would be disappointing. Sometimes I do enjoy watching a movie on a big screen and buying overpriced popcorn, it's just a different experience. Plus it gets me out of the house, which I need to do more of. I enjoy watching & streaming movies at home way more, but there is some releases which are great seen on a big screen. Especially Superhero films I feel like. Joker was great in Cinemas, for example.

 

[GeorgioCostanzaX]

I just hope theaters with beer and food Alamo Draft House survives this. AMC can suck a dick.

 

[Blond]

I just hope theaters with beer and food Alamo Draft House survives this. AMC can suck a dick.

Alamo Drafthouse is my FAVORITE theater. I was so happy when they started expanding out of Texas you have no idea.

 

[finowns]

I had an option for AMC expiring on Friday and they drop this news.

 

[finowns]

Whatever I’m still watching Dune in theaters although they pushed it back to October 2021.

 

[GeorgioCostanzaX]

Alamo Drafthouse is my FAVORITE theater. I was so happy when they started expanding out of Texas you have no idea.

Yeah we had a clone when I was in Portland called Cinetopia. In LA there was Studio Movie Grill and IPIC one of which is already bankrupt. I seriously hate any other type of theater without nice seats and age limit and food.

Fuck now I’m worried about Pruneyard up in the Bay Area which is closest to me.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

crazy stuff RIP to the movies

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

Movie studios have made their play. There will be less theaters out there for sure and I think in the future only big time event movies (i.e. Endgame, Avatar, Star Wars) will be getting released in select theaters, if that.

 

[JORMBO]

I wonder what this will do for some movie budgets. I can't imagine some of the bigger movies pulling in a billion or more through HBO Max streaming profits.

 

[Mitsuda Maniac]

I think AT&T owns all of these properties and doesn't see a way movie theaters will make money in 2021 anyway. Pretty sizable gamble though.

 

[IDKFA]

WB

Please ditch Sky and get HBO Max released in the UK.

Thanks

 

[Aurelius]

Good thing I just invested in a new TV then.

 

[sol_bad]

I predicted theaters would be obsolete in about 10 years before even Covid.

It's pretty much going the way of the video game arcade. Covid just sped it up. This was inevitable.

Nah, this will be a short term thing until it's safe to walk around America.

Right now there are 38 million HBO Max subscribers in America. That's about 570 million a month they are making? If Covid19 wasn't around, Warner could plop Wonder Women 84 in cinemas and easily make another 400-500 million in America. HBO Max would need another 20 million subscribers to cover that extra revenue. But here is the thing, even if Warner don't release their theatrical films on HBO Max, they would still gather those extra subscribers over time.

And let's say millions of people subbed to HBO Max for a month just to watch a theatrical film, Warner would still make less money in this manner than if they released theatrically.

On the radio news they estimated that it would take a year or more in Australia to have everyone vaccinated for Covid19, so sometime in 2022 everyone will be vaccinated. I'd imagine it would take even longer to have everyone vaccinated in America. Warner are just making smart business decisions for the now.

It doesn’t make sense to only release to theaters and then release digitally later. This is good that Warner realizes this and will release both simultaneously. They’ll still get the theater goers and also people that would never see the movie in the first place.

How does it not make business sense? There are people on this film that are ecstatic that they can watch these films on HBO Max but if there was no Covid19 they would be forced to go to the cinemas to watch. In a pre-covid world Warner would make money at the cinemas and then later make more money on Blu ray and then even more money on HBO Max.

If theatres really do start closing down I really have to invest in good surround sound setup at home. I used to go cinemas atleast 10 times a year. As for subs, I stopped subbing a long time as all the content is spread across too many services, Hulu, Prime, HBO, Netflix etc. And where I'm from some services are not even available in the UK. I use a pirating streaming platform that combines all the services into one convenient place, I would pay if all the companies banded together and have everything in one place but unfortunately they don't so it seems pirating is the most convenient way to get content. So will be strange to watch the latest movies day 1 without spending a penny.

Unless you can afford the same quality sound as a cinema, your surround sound will never match up to the cinema experience. I have an 8K aud set up and yeah it sounds good but no where near as good as the cinema. And if you are using a pirating streaming service to watch films you'd be wasting money on a surround sound set up. If you buy a surround sound set up you want to make sure you are getting movies on blu ray/4K.
Movies on Netflix / Disney+ / HBO / Hulu sound like absolute shit compared to physical media.