GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
giving away all this company secrets and strategy making themselves look like crud true disaster what you think my friends??
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Was Activision NOT worth these leaks for MS???
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Little Chicken
Member
I think that as a corporation, they're just concentrating on moving on and not sitting around refreshing gaming forums.
FullMetalx117
Member
It does indeed confirm the forthcoming destruction to Activision but we will get some free quality COD time for at least the next 2-3 iterations. So yes
bitbydeath
Member
The acquisition renewal is coming up soon, with Xbox threatening to close I can’t see that going down well for ABK shareholders.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
now the competition knows all there plans specs MS showing weakness not just forum
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XesqueVara
Member
When that Candy Crush and Cod Money start flowing into their account naaaah,.
Jinzo Prime
Member
There's already a lot of "burying the lead" going on on Reddit.
Crayon
Member
Expect it in the headlines. That's what you do when you'd rather not report something at all.
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Jinzo Prime
Member
It's so sad, though. Reddit is easily manipulated.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
ABK generates more profit than the whole xbox division so it does not matter.
A single big acquisition can change Microsoft roadmap so it did not matter much. All these plans were before ABK acquisition anyway.
A single big acquisition can change Microsoft roadmap so it did not matter much. All these plans were before ABK acquisition anyway.
Cyberpunkd
Member
ABK net income was 2.16bln in the last FY, they sure didn’t buy them for
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Activision cost is a blip on MS pocketbook. You aren't quite grasping how profitable MS is as a whole. Activision shareholders got hell of a deal getting cash and MS stock.The acquisition renewal is coming up soon, with Xbox threatening to close I can’t see that going down well for ABK shareholders.
yurinka
Member
It will help produce way more revenue to their gaming division and will help them reduce the loses, even if it won't change their position in game consoles game subs sales. Due to including AAA games day one on GP they may never recoup it.
If they don't care about profitability, as seems to be the case, it will be worth it for MS.
If they don't care about profitability, as seems to be the case, it will be worth it for MS.
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Soodanim
Member
What the fuck is this thread
GigaBowser
GigaBowser
Hudo
Gold Member
Getting King and CoD and Blizzard IPs (Blizzard itself is worthless) and Crash and Spyro. I think it must've been worth it. And let's be real, no one gives a shit outside of Twitter and Reddit about all of this. Do you really think the people who buy CoD and Fifa give a flying fuck about any of this?
Stare-Bear
Banned
Seeing the way the higher ups respond to Spencer in those leaked emails, they really don’t care about the Xbox division. As long as it makes some profit they’ll leave Spencer alone.
But the second it goes into the red, they’ll pull the plug like it’s nothing.
But the second it goes into the red, they’ll pull the plug like it’s nothing.
It's not just these leaks.
It's two years of strategic planning thrown into the bin.
Executives and internal company's culture being exposed both to consumers and competitors.
Business strategies exposed to competitors.
An acquisition that is not what was intended and has been considerably neutralized by regulators. COD for 10 years to both Sony and Nintendo, rights to games for cloud streaming sold to Ubisoft for 15 years.
It has become a really long term bet at an astronomical price and it's still not over.
If they had known they would have executed on a different strategy.
It's two years of strategic planning thrown into the bin.
Executives and internal company's culture being exposed both to consumers and competitors.
Business strategies exposed to competitors.
An acquisition that is not what was intended and has been considerably neutralized by regulators. COD for 10 years to both Sony and Nintendo, rights to games for cloud streaming sold to Ubisoft for 15 years.
It has become a really long term bet at an astronomical price and it's still not over.
If they had known they would have executed on a different strategy.
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GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
this post is genius you are winning the thread
zeldaring
Banned
True. People have more important things going and most people won't Care.
Robb
Gold Member
Of course. Here are two alternatives:
A. Nothing leaks.
B. A lot of stuff leaks but you get to own 100% of ActivisionBlizzard/King
The choice seems obvious to me.
Plans change all the time and a lot of this stuff went all the way to 2028 which is plenty of to to pivot if needed.
A. Nothing leaks.
B. A lot of stuff leaks but you get to own 100% of ActivisionBlizzard/King
The choice seems obvious to me.
Plans change all the time and a lot of this stuff went all the way to 2028 which is plenty of to to pivot if needed.
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ZehDon
Member
Owning the biggest and most important franchise on your competitors platform?
Gaining a massive foothold in mobile?
Having access to some of the best developers and proven management teams in the industry?
Securing a monstrous accelerant for their subscription service?
More than worth it. Easily.
Gaining a massive foothold in mobile?
Having access to some of the best developers and proven management teams in the industry?
Securing a monstrous accelerant for their subscription service?
More than worth it. Easily.
Wildebeest
Member
Was there actually anything surprising in the leaks? Microsoft would like to own everything in gaming, but in terms of making games that could be genuinely exciting for gamers and the industry, they have zero plans or ambition. Who knew?
Dick Jones
Banned
Buying a Superbowl winner's medal on Ebay would be my greatest sporting accomplishment.
Phil Spencer [future Superbowl winner possibly]
Phil Spencer [future Superbowl winner possibly]
PaintTinJr
Member
I'm not so sure, have you seen the latest visitor numbers on the front page of Gaf? It looks like all of Microsoft are browsing Gaf as we speak
mrmustard
Banned
Those people don't even know about this and never will. It's just the few forum dwellers like us.
PaintTinJr
Member
The question doesn't seem right,
The deal was blocked, and now we are waiting on a possibility of the inquiry group changing stance to allow the brand new phase 1 Ex-cloud rights merger to pass while starting from the body of evidence in the report that blocked the merger.
And this is all against the backdrop of them only being granted the right to attempt the ex-cloud merger at the CMA's discretion because the 10year block on them buying stock/influence in ATVI without CMA approval is now active from the original deal being blocked so a presumption the 50/50 of the deal is passing to make it worth it, doesn't really reflect that as we speak the deal might already have failed and all they've got is a $4.5b bill to ATVI and large trouser down moment in the leak department, which then changes the question to : "Was the chance of buying Activision NOT worth these leaks for MS???"
