This is precisely why I quit. RE4 had me in 2 mins, this game just managed to really piss me off.
Sorry, a good game should be like a good book in the respect that it should draw you in quickly, not leaving you waiting and wondering when its going to pick up and NOT SUCK.
I haven't finished KotoR 2, but once you got off the space station and to some of the othwer planets, the game picked up. It took way too long to assemble the light saber this time. It has it's issues, but I like the game, but don't LOVE it like I did the first, due to the fact that it came out so soon, and it has a rushed feel. But overall, its a good game, and I think Obsidian did a fine job. Let's hope they put the brakes on and focus on more things in the KotoR3. But BioWare was busy working on Jade Empire and I can't wait to play the final version.
So 5 minutes ago (today) I've finally beaten KOTOR1. I've read some of your comments before about Star Forge, well, here's my take on it.
Stupid design, sorry. Unnecessary, easy, long and boring battles. Died only one time in the turret corridor.
Now on to the final battle with Malak - WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?
I was playing a good LS Jedi meaning I never picked up OFFENSIVE force powers like LightSabre Throw, Choke, Lightning etc., nothing. I was level 20 with only good, defensive Force Powers like Master Speed, Knight Valor, Heal, Force Persuade etc.
The only dark power I had was Force Wave.
Ok, so I try Malak, 4 melee attacks per round, buffed, he goes down quickly taking only 50% of my life.
And he restores.
Again and again.
And again.
What the hell? So I log on to GameFaqs for the first time in the entire game to check some strategies cause he whooped my ass like 20 times.
Oh, you have to destroy those Jedi pods with a offensive Force Power, then he won't restore his health!
Ha, should be easy now...
The fuck... Force Wave DOESN'T WORK on them!!!
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3 hours later after insane number of saves and retries Malak restores for the last time from the 8th Jedi pod.
Finally I kill him.
That, IMO, was a very bad designed, flawed final boss battle. I've beaten every BioWare RPG before and couldn't believe Malak fight was so unbalanced. Irenicus gave me 0 problems, so did Sarevok. The giant demon from Icewind Dale 1 was quite hard but not on Malak-level of difficulty! Hell even Demigorgon with Gaider's patches was E A S Y!!!
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I'm playing KOTOR2 now (still Pergaus) any tips what powers are NECESSARY to beat final boss in Sith Lords? I don't want to make the same mistake twice.
I'm playing KOTOR2 now (still Pergaus) any tips what powers are NECESSARY to beat final boss in Sith Lords? I don't want to make the same mistake twice.
Personally I haven't touched the game in two months, and I'm currently at the Jedi temple. The biggest gripe I have with the game is its script writing. I had hope that it would improve as I had gotten deeper into the game, but unfortunately that hasn't been the case. Eventually I'll resume play, but as of now it's all about NCAA basketball.
One of the most obvious mistakes I've notice in the game occured in the very beginning when you are introduced to Atton. Not once did I ask him what his name was, as I had figured he'd eventually tell me...Never happened. Later on in that level when we were at the main console my character began to call him by his name. I'm like, WTF, he never told me his name...Nor did I ask for it. "Maybe my character used his Jedi mind tricks to break into his head?" Right then and there I knew the game was going to be a cluster fuck.
Both KOTORs suffer from Xbox-esque engine. They are great games, great writings and storylines but their engines are pretty pathethic. Now it's not as bad as DX2 - PC GUI is PC GUI, there are plenty of hardware options etc. but you can see and feel the limitations of 750 MHz and GF3-like Xbox on every step.
KOTOR2 is a joke when it comes to PC graphics. I thought KOTOR1 was nice with bump-mapping, pixel-shaded water and all for 2003 but to have the same engine in 2005 PC game is ... well, very BioWare/BlackIsle-like (100 games on BG1 engine).
I still love KOTOR1 and I'm liking KOTOR2 but I would kill to see them made especially for the PC with LARGE areas, higher-polycounts, higher quality textures etc.
That being said, KOTOR2 runs just as well as KOTOR1 did. Same engine, same everything - I play in 1280 with AA+AF.
Tie Fighter, though dated now, is pretty much the Star Wars game that put all other Star Wars games on the map. Sure X-Wing came out first, but Tie Figher was the one that offered something new and different. It was so much fun to fly for the Empire. I'd give it the nod as the greatest Star Wars game of all time.
Jedi Knight series was a blast too, dating back to the Dark Forces game that looked like a Doom mod. KOTOR I was a blast, but KOTOR II was too buggy, slow moving and predictible with so many good ideas left hanging out there. No way is the KOTOR series as a whole that great. I yes, but II really brings it back down.
Jedi Academy was garbage but guess why? The consolized the shit out of it. Jedi Knight and Jedi Outcast are still the best JEDI games ever made. Nothing beats JK's multiplayer, awesome, awesome stuff.
Dark Forces was also awesome. Miles better than Doom, MILES.
Stil Tie Fighter was THE Star Wars game.
KotOR 1 is top stuff but JK series as a whole tops it easily. I think we can all forget about Jedi Academy and KotOR2 (assuming it's as bad as people say I haven't finished it yet).
Tie Fighter > Jedi Knight + Mysteries of Sith + Jedi Outcast > KotOR1 > Dark Forces
Tie fighter aged terribly , i find it unplayable now, hopefully the return of big space battles in Ep 3 will mean the return of big space battles in games (man i miss the space combat genre, and it could be so awesome on console too). None of this opened ended Freelancer stuff, just plain old fashion awesome in cockpit space combat action (with a good story).
I'm playing KOTOR2 now (still Pergaus) any tips what powers are NECESSARY to beat final boss in Sith Lords? I don't want to make the same mistake twice.
Yeah I had the same problem you did with Malak. No spoilers but in the last fight of KotOR2 I just used melee attacks though you might want to get some good melee feats like Master Flurry. For force powers I'd recommend getting master heal and force immunity sometime before the last battle.
One thing I noticed in KotOR2 is that even though I went Jedi Consular/Master my main character was very powerful and probably could have played the last 33-50% of the game without a party. This might be a game balance issue but I really enjoyed it. I kind of liked being a badass Jedi. Mostly I would just walk into a room and use Force Wall or Stasis Field to knock everyone down and then finish them off while paralyzed. Very light side of me, don't you think?
Oh, visiting planets in the wrong order can kind of mess you up a little. Just make sure you don't go to Onderon last. Maybe do Korriban last. There's an area on Korriban that you can't get into unless you're past a certain level.
health packs? I had like 50. Why? I don't know. I didn't have to use them ;P
Probably the hardest part of the game for me was mira. But since i'm a brute force person and not a force user, everyone in my path was absolutely crushed.
One thing that was funny was before in Na shardaa when i was supposed to go to see the exchange boss and they set a trap... i went into the refugee docks area to upgrade my sword... and went back to the ebon hawk just to see if i could kill a couple people... only to see mira sitting there... odd.
then i put my breath mask on since mira took my enviro suit, and walked into the gas bar. not only that but the part in miras apartment.... I'M IMMUNE TO POISON! So why is my character collapsing from breathing poison? They forgot to factor in that possibility!
also in the beginning, on citadel station... i would smoke the best racers time by 5 seconds... and the counter clerk was like "not too shabby... however you didn't break any records!" so that was broken.
And the end... which wasn't an end at all. Felt like more of a subquest. At that point i was like level 24 or something and nothing could stop me. Apparently you can hit like level 40.... did they design around the possibility of someone having an insanely powerful character? I remember in FF7 the last boss being pretty hard and i had level 70 characters... Seriously... The guys in the beginning of the game were harder than the ones at the end for me.
No bugs what-so-ever? What do you think those impossible to finish sidequests are?
There are a handful of them, one deals with the fuel supply for Taris, another with the power problem in Nar Shadaa docks, etc.
There is one in particular that screws up the majority of the time, and that's the bounty for the 2 thugs on Telos (the ones you chase to the surface). The problem is that 90% of the time, the thugs won't be there. So you have to go lie to Grenn and tell him you killed them before you even go the surface, get the reward, and then they're guaranteed to show up. Yay for doing things in reverse order.
Cathcart said:
Oh, visiting planets in the wrong order can kind of mess you up a little. Just make sure you don't go to Onderon last. Maybe do Korriban last. There's an area on Korriban that you can't get into unless you're past a certain level.
Hm, I actually did Onderon last both times through, and didn't run into any problems. As soon as I boarded the Ebon Hawk after the initial trip to Onderon, I was being called back to Dxun to split into groups for those quests.
As for this area on Korriban, care to give some details? I did Korriban 2nd to last, so I'm thinking I've done it, but I'd like to know for sure.
DopeyFish said:
then i put my breath mask on since mira took my enviro suit, and walked into the gas bar. not only that but the part in miras apartment.... I'M IMMUNE TO POISON! So why is my character collapsing from breathing poison? They forgot to factor in that possibility!
Actually, they do explain that. Forgetting when, but sometime before that scenario, you're able to ask if you can simply wear a breath mask, but they explain that the cantina's poison gets absorbed through the skin.
DopeyFish said:
At that point i was like level 24 or something and nothing could stop me. Apparently you can hit like level 40.... did they design around the possibility of someone having an insanely powerful character?
Doing everything in the game (killing every enemy, every quest, recovering every mine, picking every lock, etc.), you'll be able to reach Level 28. However, the game caps your character at Level 50, ...but the only way to reach that is to use EXP exploits. I don't think they thought this through very well.
If you're curious about the best EXP exploit:
On Korriban, in the Sith Tomb, there's a room near the end with a lone corpse in the center. Like the others, examining the corpse spawns Hississ (sp), but this one you can examine repeatedly, and more will spawn each time you do. Fill up the room with as many as you can handle, take them all out with an AOE Force Power, repeat!
Of course, this would be best utilized as a Dark Side Jedi, as they have the most effective AOE powers.
There are also other things you can exploit for EXP, like gaining experience from recovering your own mines (ie: lay mines near a zone line, zone, lay some on this side, zone back, recover them for exp, lay more down, return to the other side, and so on). You can also duplicate lightsabers (which yes, will duplicate your character crystal), abuse dialogue glitches for unlimited alignment points, and so on. Look around the net and you find a bunch of 'em.
EDIT: Oh, and in case anybody was wondering (I doubt it), I never used any of these exploits.
Remember that part in the cave that you have to do by yourself? You run into Kreia and there's that cutscene where Atton, Bao-Dur and T3 all show up? You can't get in there unless you're a certain level. I don't know what that level is but I'm sure you can find it on GameFAQs.
Anyway I was glad I didn't go to Korriban until last because it would have been annoying to leave and come back. You know, cause the loading times. They take forever. Like one time I wrote a script for KotOR 3 while I watied for an area to load. Then I got bored so I wrote my own engine and made my very own KotOR game. I still had time to make a sandwich.
