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[ReBurn]

The fabs will just see it as organic weakening demand for DDR and shift more of their capacity to DRAM for AI chips, making the issue worse.

 

[Sorcerer]

Most likely, the ram manufacturers would appreciate the boycott, as that is more inventory they can supply to the bemouths of the industry. They don't need the average consumer at all in this case.
The only ones who would be directly hurt buy this are the retailers. (Who probably have little say or choice in the matter).

 

[adamsapple]

Has there ever been a successful gamer boycott?

 

[phant0m]

Has there ever been a successful gamer boycott?

The reverse boycott of Hogwarts seemed to work. Though it cancelled out the intended actual boycott, so net zero?

Also, not sure if it counts as a boycott but the monster backlash to the Xbone reveal made MS walk all that shit back.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Right when I think gamers couldn't seem more stupid . . . hey they're selling our stuff to someone else for more money, lets boycott it . . . that way they can more easily sell it to someone else for more money.

 

[Killer8]

Just buy a PS5 digital for dirt cheap until this all blows over in a few years.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Smartest demographic there is.

Tempting ram companies into reducing prices by playing hard to get.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Right when I think gamers couldn't seem more stupid . . . hey they're selling our stuff to someone else for more money, lets boycott it . . . that way they can more easily sell it to someone else for more money.

This is exactly what they will do yes, DRAM is a commodity product. The same wafers can be used to make a consumer DRAM or an enterprise ECC DRAM or GDDR for GPU's. The DRAM manufacturers couldn't give less of a shit what specific DRAM's they make as long as it sells

 

[Sanepar]

I think I'm good until ddr6 and It Will take 2-3 years for ddr6 have decent modules, until there we will be in a recession and prices will be normalized.

 

[RoboFu]

These are the same people who paid 2k for a gpu and cheered ? lol okay

 

[Mayar]

To hell with PC gaming, we're always seeing one thing or another go up in price, it's happening all the time and will continue to do so. Because too many industries and technologies are tied to PCs, and gamers and casual PC users aren't exactly the areas that generate revenue (it's negligible). This cannot be stopped.

I'm more worried about EverydayBeast, he loses any chance of upgrading.

 

[RoboFu]

To hell with PC gaming, we're always seeing one thing or another go up in price, it's happening all the time and will continue to do so. Because too many industries and technologies are tied to PCs, and gamers and casual PC users aren't exactly the areas that generate revenue (it's negligible). This cannot be stopped.

I'm more worried about EverydayBeast, he loses any chance of upgrading.

You do realize this affects console gaming as well. We haven't seen it peak yet because Sony and Nintendo has stocked piled consoles for Christmas but if high ran prices stay high we will see prices increase again.

 

[Mayar]

You do realize this affects console gaming as well. We haven't seen it peak yet because Sony and Nintendo has stocked piled consoles for Christmas but if high ran prices stay high we will see prices increase again.

I understand perfectly well, and there's nothing we can do about it. But you understand that console manufacturers often sell them at a loss at launch to reduce costs, and then, over the lifecycle, with new revisions, they bring the cost down to zero or even profit. And yes, this will also hit consoles and all electronics in general.

 

[Fbh]

Gamers: "we won't buy ram!!!"

AI companies:

 

[MrJangles]

Haha...the very idea of PC Gamers, the very definition of FOMO Fuckheads, would ever have the self restraint to boycott the purchase of anything that they perceive as giving them a few extra FPS, is the height of absurdity.

90% of PC gamers aren't loaded to the extent they upgrade every five minutes just for an extra 3fps. You only need look at the Steam hardware survey to see most are running old tech. The 10% give the rest of us the bad rep.

Much in the same way 99% of Playstation fans who are complete arseholes ruin everything for the 1% who aren't.....

 

[Clear]

The funny part is that despite all the billions being poured into AI investment where's the return on that investment coming from ? Where's the product ?

 

[analog_future]

Yep. Same goes with GPUs. If they don't sell on the consumer side they'll just continue to push more of their chips into the AI/datacenter basket where they'll make more money anyway.

 

[Mayar]

The funny part is that despite all the billions being poured into AI investment where's the return on that investment coming from ? Where's the product ?

The mountains of AI porn\hentai that have flooded the internet are no longer enough for us?

 

[IDKFA]

It's frustrating because a real solution would be for manufacturers to build more factories to increase the supply, but they won't do this because they're worried about the AI bubble popping.

I doubt this will be the last price increase either. With more AI data centres being built (isn't Elon Musk building one in Saudi Arabia?), that's just going to increase the demand further. I'm expecting RAM to double in price by the end of next year.

I also don't expect prices to fall either. In the near future, it'll just be too expensive for most people to have dedicated gaming hardware and most will settle for cloud gaming.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

As long as the next computer I buy is within 1500 dollars and still more than enough to for me to max out GTA VI, Witcher 4, Modded Fallout 5, and Modded Elder Scrolls at 60 FPS on 1080p that will also last around a decade. Since my current PC costed around 1500 after tax and lasted a decade and still using it.

 

[JimmyRustler]

The funny part is that despite all the billions being poured into AI investment where's the return on that investment coming from ? Where's the product ?

I think that all the companies using Copilot are paying MS well for it. But I could be wrong.

That aside, the AI race is currently beyond the product market. It's state business. Both China and US are investing huge amounts of money. The way I see it it's the current day space race of the Cold War.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

The funny part is that despite all the billions being poured into AI investment where's the return on that investment coming from ? Where's the product ?

 

[dave_d]

And body scanners in airports. They missed that one. (Yes I worked at a company that was doing this and the AI was machine vision.)

 

[Aressa]

I don't understand. It's not milk. You don't buy RAM every week.

 

[Clear]

Its still not generating close to the revenue to cover setup and running costs. Hence the dubious circular financing that's pumping up the AI bubble.

 

[PSFore]

A lot of people prepared for this, which has made the hardware market seem healthier than it is. Crash is going to be even worse than expected.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I am just glad I have good RAM in all my PCs.

My only regret is selling off my 32GB GSkill RGB sticks at dirt cheap prices a few months ago. I could actually get decent $$$ for that right now. I could easily get $200 for that.

 

[mckmas8808]

There is no uniformity among gamers, never has been, never will be. Just individual self interest.

As it should be.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

As it should be.

I tend to agree, even if devs celebrate people dying, or if they are racists or whatever. In the end that stuff doesn't hurt us and we need to separate the art from the artist.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

The reverse boycott of Hogwarts seemed to work. Though it cancelled out the intended actual boycott, so net zero?

Also, not sure if it counts as a boycott but the monster backlash to the Xbone reveal made MS walk all that shit back.

The boycott of Hogwarts Legacy was something that only existed on a twitter (now BlueSky) echo chamber. it was neverr serious.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Gamers and boycott.... The joke tells itself am I right?

 

[T-Reks]

i'll reset the sign

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