Eh. Let's say it's combatative, it's a constructive kind of combat to have. Leaving a faith and finding a culture in that shared experience is something Muslims just need to deal with and grow thicker skin about. Just the ones who have trouble with it, plenty won't!
Wegmans Store Refuses to Make Cake for Ex-Muslim Group Because Their Existence is ...
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Being an atheist and being an ex-muslim are not necessarily the same thing.
It's one thing, for instance, to have been raised without religion and thus identify as an atheist by default. It's another thing entirely to grow up in a conservative religious environment that tells you that you deserve eternal damnation and death for leaving the religion. To leave such a religious environment can come at great costs, including complete alienation from your family.
It's very understandable when people want to celebrate that they stood for the convictions despite the backlash and not just the fact that they are irreligious. These groups are also support groups for other people in similar situations, not just generic atheist groups.
I'm just curious what your link was...
it shouldn't be, really. but man if you leave, in some countries you have just signed a death warrant with your name on it. It is pretty ballsy to put a name on it in America. What name would you suggest?
Moderate muslims themselves are at a loss for how to deal with their more extreme brothers. The faith needs some kind of Vatican accord or universal meeting of the imams and a binding fatwa towards peace, but...I don't really see that happening without bloodshed.
OP linked to a totally different article on the same site with no relation to this story, MH changed the link to be the correct article, OP, presumably accidentally, changed it back, MH corrected it again. It's not that exciting.
Seriously.
You know something? I think there's a difference when they are rejecting a requested design for a cake. There is a fundamental difference between "we will not serve you THAT here" and "we will not serve YOU here"
Now, this doesn't mean I agree with their decision to not fulfill the request, however I do believe it is in their right to refuse a request like that. Take Walmart for example, they recently made the decision to not accept cake designs that depict the confederate flag. This wasn't them rejecting to do business with a group of people so much as it was them deciding not to sell a particular product at their store
GiantEnemyGoomba
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Why do people that go into the cake-making business in America have such problems just making the fucking cakes
Mmm, I don't think this is a question of legality. It's a question of morality, and what is deemed to be "right". It can be an entirely personal position, where the line to serve should be drawn. Maybe a predominately black bakery doesn't want to make a "kkk 4 eva" cake. Maybe that same bakery also doesn't want to make a wedding cake celebrating an interracial couple. Let's pretend both of these actions were legal - do we, collectively as a society, find them both morally right?
That's where stuff like "voting with your wallet", community engagement, and going to the press comes in.
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I love that the media will only pay attention to a protest if it involves refusing to sell cake to someone.
Article seems to categorize the incident as discrimination, which I do not believe is accurate.. legally speaking at least, it is not discrimination.
The morality discussion is an interesting one, because there are various scenarios you can apply to the topic, however, regardless of which groups are involved, the law must be applied equally. If one group can deny a design because it is a political affiliation they do not agree with, then so can the people of other political opinions. The law does not play favorites when it comes to political opinion. The law says you cannot deny a person service for their politics, race, religion, ect
but again, to deny a specific cake design is not one in the same as refusing to do business with an individual. I'm sure if the ex-Muslim group wanted to put "happy birthday" on their cake, there would have been no issue
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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Man, cake causes so much drama.
They should have fired her ass on the spot for being a bigot.
Fried Food
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I come from Wegmans ground zero, actually bought groceries there today, and I have to believe this is the fault of a lone employee and not the attitude of the corporation.
QuantumZebra
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Lol it really is... wtf is with cakes
Or introduce a cake control bill.
French Revolution started over cake. Jesus Christ was killed over a cake. Pretty sure Julius Ceasar died because he didn't like Brutus' wife cake recipe.
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Religion is privileged by laws, sadly, in most countries.
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