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Westworld - Live in Your World, Play in Ours - Sundays on HBO
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I Eat Thumbtacks
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Westworld announced for 4k blu-ray: http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/070517-1000
Glad I waited on watching the show.
Edit: Anyone want to make a thread in OT?
Glad I waited on watching the show.
Edit: Anyone want to make a thread in OT?
VenomousCoffee
Gold Member
Jesus. That snake tat is most certainly not "fun for hosts of all ages."
Westworld announced for 4k blu-ray: http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/070517-1000
Glad I waited on watching the show.
Edit: Anyone want to make a thread in OT?
Day one. Have not seen the show at all but my friends have been singing it's praise. This will be my jump on board point. 4K and the tin packaging looks nice too!
VenomousCoffee
Gold Member
The fact I thought it was real probably says something bad about both me and geek culture merchandising.
Cornballer
Member
- io9/reddit notice that the Westworld website has been updated recently
I imagine we'll get a teaser (not a trailer) or some sort soon. They're just about to start filming S2, but with GoT airing soon and a Comic Con panel coming up, they'll probably want to get something out there.
I imagine we'll get a teaser (not a trailer) or some sort soon. They're just about to start filming S2, but with GoT airing soon and a Comic Con panel coming up, they'll probably want to get something out there.
Reckless Abandon
Member
Finished this over the weekend. I really liked the settings, music, and acting performances. Jeffrey Wright nailed it as Bernard and Hopkins' Ford was a treat to watch. McPoyle (William) seemed a bit out of place, though, and I didn't really care for Dolores until her role turned dark towards the end. To me pacing was a bit of an issue and there were some truly boring parts, but enough was done well to return for whenever season 2 comes out.
After it was over, my first thought was that it was all Arnold manipulating the whole situation, up to and including the assassination of Ford. I thought that Dolores' initial massacre of the small town and murder of Arnold was something akin to a dress rehearsal for the real performance several years later where Ford gets killed. But then again now that I type that out it is pretty ridiculous...how would he know there would be a big party for the Board of Directors with Ford there pitching his new narrative 30+ years later?
After reading the Wiki and some post-watch commentary it seems like the consensus was that this was mainly Ford doing everything, and doing it because he eventually "flipped" and came around to Arnold's way of thinking and the hosts and their consciousness.
Little ashamed that I didn't notice the MiB/William connection earlier. Makes too much sense in hindsight (especially considering Lawrence/El Lazo).
A couple of misc thoughts/questions:
- Samurai World? Yes, please. But I thought it was odd that the tech helping Maeve dodged her question on what it was, saying something like "it's complicated" when she asked about i. It it really that complicated if it's the same thing as Westworld, just with samurai instead of cowboys? Maybe something else is going on with that? Then again it could just be that her "programming" doesn't even account for what samurai are.
- Is the park on a big piece of land somewhere? All the elevators seem to show most of the inner workings are below the surface of the park. If so, what happens when you reach the end, as Logan did on the horse after William goes on his rampage? Logan seemed scared, like something bad was going to happen to him when he reached the end.
edit - couple more:
- Were some/all of the technicians hosts? I remembered Maeve saying that the one guy was a "14" on bulk apperception, leading me to believe she accessed his files and it shows his parameters. But then in the last episode she heavily implies to the other that he is human.
- The techs imply Maeve's breakout is a narrative, and she is just doing as programmed. I wonder if she was programmed to actually leave via the train, or if her going back ostensibly for her daughter is going against her script. Was she supposed to leave or turn back? I imagine that will be a big plot point of season 2.
- Did Ford make a clone of himself? If so, did the clone die at the party or the original? Tantalizing....
After it was over, my first thought was that it was all Arnold manipulating the whole situation, up to and including the assassination of Ford. I thought that Dolores' initial massacre of the small town and murder of Arnold was something akin to a dress rehearsal for the real performance several years later where Ford gets killed. But then again now that I type that out it is pretty ridiculous...how would he know there would be a big party for the Board of Directors with Ford there pitching his new narrative 30+ years later?
After reading the Wiki and some post-watch commentary it seems like the consensus was that this was mainly Ford doing everything, and doing it because he eventually "flipped" and came around to Arnold's way of thinking and the hosts and their consciousness.
Little ashamed that I didn't notice the MiB/William connection earlier. Makes too much sense in hindsight (especially considering Lawrence/El Lazo).
A couple of misc thoughts/questions:
- Samurai World? Yes, please. But I thought it was odd that the tech helping Maeve dodged her question on what it was, saying something like "it's complicated" when she asked about i. It it really that complicated if it's the same thing as Westworld, just with samurai instead of cowboys? Maybe something else is going on with that? Then again it could just be that her "programming" doesn't even account for what samurai are.
- Is the park on a big piece of land somewhere? All the elevators seem to show most of the inner workings are below the surface of the park. If so, what happens when you reach the end, as Logan did on the horse after William goes on his rampage? Logan seemed scared, like something bad was going to happen to him when he reached the end.
edit - couple more:
- Were some/all of the technicians hosts? I remembered Maeve saying that the one guy was a "14" on bulk apperception, leading me to believe she accessed his files and it shows his parameters. But then in the last episode she heavily implies to the other that he is human.
- The techs imply Maeve's breakout is a narrative, and she is just doing as programmed. I wonder if she was programmed to actually leave via the train, or if her going back ostensibly for her daughter is going against her script. Was she supposed to leave or turn back? I imagine that will be a big plot point of season 2.
- Did Ford make a clone of himself? If so, did the clone die at the party or the original? Tantalizing....
Darth Pinche
Member
Playing around with the chatbot/host is pretty fun. it goes wonky when you start to push it a little, asking about things you shouldn't,
like Arnold.
Cornballer
Member
Nope. It's slated for sometime in 2018
Signed up for hbo now for GoT and binged this the other night. What a great show. All those twists. For some reason I thought that Logan was Harris's character when I put together the time jump which finally hit for me when her stomach wound disappeared.
The strangest thing for me was that the host that showed William the wardrobe etc. knew she was a host but didn't have the freak out that the other hosts did. I wonder how you program dealing with that realisation. She certainly didn't seem any less advanced than the others.
Poor Elsie. I was holding out hope that she had survived somehow. Speaking of which they didn't actually show the head of security biting it either.
The strangest thing for me was that the host that showed William the wardrobe etc. knew she was a host but didn't have the freak out that the other hosts did. I wonder how you program dealing with that realisation. She certainly didn't seem any less advanced than the others.
Poor Elsie. I was holding out hope that she had survived somehow. Speaking of which they didn't actually show the head of security biting it either.
Cornballer
Member
I haven't seen a press release regarding S2 casting, so I imagine that's just Deadline recycling last year's list.
Gotcha, thanks man!
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Jonathan Tucker!
VenomousCoffee
Gold Member
Yup. Exciting news.
In case you didn't see the thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1409851
Westworld season 2 trailer
Westworld season 2 trailer
Cornballer
Member
HBO PR from upfronts. They note that Westworld will be back Spring 2018.
Wonder if this means GoT S8 could start as late as October.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
HBO has said that the final season may not even air until 2019!
torre_avenue
Banned
So, with the season finale of "The Deuce" then?
EDIT: Nevermind, because that'll finish around December.
Mike Works
Member
I just finished the season last night. I started watching it live, then stopped for a few months, then tried to get back into it and stopped for another handful of months. I liked the premise and the opening episode or two was well done, but felt that the show just kind of dragged throughout the season. The casting in this show is incredible, but it just wasn't grabbing me. There was one episode in particular (6 perhaps?) where the acting was atrocious for no apparent reason. Whichever one where Dolores and co are in the moving train.
So anyway, I just finished the last few episodes last night, and holy hell that finale was one of the best episodes of television in terms of payoff ever. I was genuinely excited explaining to my partner why I was saying "whoa!" every 15 minutes.
I'm glad I finished the season and I'm looking forward to the next, but I really hope the show breaks open their characters now that all of these secret identities have been revealed.
So anyway, I just finished the last few episodes last night, and holy hell that finale was one of the best episodes of television in terms of payoff ever. I was genuinely excited explaining to my partner why I was saying "whoa!" every 15 minutes.
I'm glad I finished the season and I'm looking forward to the next, but I really hope the show breaks open their characters now that all of these secret identities have been revealed.
RespectThySole
Member
First time watching the show. I love the scene with Maeve where they play "Back to Black" on the piano.
I dunno she was likeable at first, but then she turned into a stone-cold psycho
Robert was my favorite character
VenomousCoffee
Gold Member
Well, she was programmed to be likeable and then she was programmed to get out of it.
I've made my way halfway through the season and I'm really enjoying it so far. I'm wondering how often all the hosts reset though; do they just loop every day? Because it seems like with the guests spending up to weeks at a time in the park that'd get repetitive real quick. Also cleaning up the scenery and restocking props after gunfights seems like it'd be a real pain in the ass.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The entire concept of a robot park is wildly impractical, and very obviously something invented in the early 1970s by a science fiction author. An adult sex/violence theme park could exist in real life in the future, but it would more likely be a hyper realistic Matrix-y VR simulation or something.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
Recently started watching this on HBO GO, and oh man it's so good! I'm on the final episode of S1 and I can't wait to get home tonight and see how it all goes down! Ed Harris absolutely steals the show every time he's in a scene, but that's not to say the other performances aren't great too.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
Finished the finale. What a great show! Loved the twists and mindfucks. I'm really, really looking forward to S2.
Struggled on whether to start a RTTP for this, but I'm in the midst of re-watching the first season. No spoilers in this post.
I am simply amazed at how the show still holds up when you know the secrets. It's fascinating. There are subtle and not so subtle hits about all of the plot twists, and the episodes are edited as if the the season was meant to be re-watched. The dialog has multiple meanings, especially from Ford. I've yet to find any glaring continuity issues (not finished yet though). Jeffrey Wright's performance quirks are subtle and delightful.
I'm finding another layer of enjoyment that's super-rare. Definitely rewatch if you have the time!
I am simply amazed at how the show still holds up when you know the secrets. It's fascinating. There are subtle and not so subtle hits about all of the plot twists, and the episodes are edited as if the the season was meant to be re-watched. The dialog has multiple meanings, especially from Ford. I've yet to find any glaring continuity issues (not finished yet though). Jeffrey Wright's performance quirks are subtle and delightful.
I'm finding another layer of enjoyment that's super-rare. Definitely rewatch if you have the time!
This show turned out to be so much more than what I thought it was going to be when I first heard of it.
Ed Harris being the highlight for me. He plays a character thats a pretty grim piece of shit but has such a casual nature about the darker side of West World and boredom with it that its hard not to find him pretty entertaining in a fucked up sort of way.
He also has the best lines.
Ed Harris being the highlight for me. He plays a character thats a pretty grim piece of shit but has such a casual nature about the darker side of West World and boredom with it that its hard not to find him pretty entertaining in a fucked up sort of way.
He also has the best lines.
"Your humanity is cost-effective"
Extra Sauce
Member
It will make me very, very happy if they integrate Samurai World in a meaningful way during season 2.
Is he going to like the way English tastes on his tongue this time tho?