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[fallengorn]

Good first episode. The twist between Teddy and the Gunslinger/Man in Black was great.

Really interested in where they're taking him now that he's a guest.

 

[ryseing]

I think Ed Harris is also a robot. What he is doing ... or why the operators don't seem to notice or care ... I do not know.

Spoiler

They've explicitly said in pre premiere talk that Harris's character is a human, basically their reverse analogue to the man in black from the original film.

 

[mre]

This is awesome. Love the music.

Black Whole Sun and Paint in Black. phew this soundtrack is pretty good so far.

that paint it black rendition was perfect

Hell yes. Absolutely wonderful music.

 

[More_Badass]

Good first episode. The twist between Teddy and the Gunslinger/Man in Black was great.

Really interested in where they're taking him now that he's a guest.

Also an interesting way of keeping the unstoppable Terminator aspect by making him a guest. They can shoot him but he'll just keep coming

 

[~Kinggi~]

That was fantastic. I am pleased to see wonderful potential for many seasons.

 

[Vire]

Cool, I want to watch but my HBO sub ran out after The Night Of... Hmmm. Decisions!

 

[Zabka]

We don't know if he is the villain yet.

It would be pretty ballsy to make a rapist the good guy.

 

[ryseing]

Cool, I want to watch but my HBO sub ran out after The Night Of... Hmmm. Decisions!

High Maintenance is quite good and Insecure looks promising. Might be worth renewing for at least WW's season run.

 

[Sanjuro]

It would be pretty ballsy to make a rapist the good guy.

I didn't see any rape.

 

[Zabka]

I didn't see any rape.

And yet he is being portrayed as a rapist. He spent the episode committing villainous acts with glee. Therefore, I am happy to see him in a villainous role this episode.

 

[Pocks]

If this is a physical world, why is that Teddy can shoot at Ed Harris without injuring him? I understand if it's coded into the hosts that they can't harm a guest, but he acted by pulling the trigger multiple times. Blanks wouldn't make sense because the same gun killed other hosts.

It must be something simple. What am I missing?

 

[PepperedHam]

That was perfect, I loved every second of it. Damn is the soundtrack on fire, that Paint It Black rendition was so good. This has checked so many boxes for me and I couldn't be happier, hoping for years out of this show.

 

[Sanjuro]

And yet he is being portrayed as a rapist. He spent the episode committing villainous acts with glee. Therefore, I am happy to see him in a villainous role this episode.

But you have no idea what his motives are, if he raped anyone, or actually has committed a villainous act.

 

[jfkgoblue]

And yet he is being portrayed as a rapist. He spent the episode committing villainous acts with glee. Therefore, I am happy to see him in a villainous role this episode.

The park advertises itself as the hosts being nonhuman and them not really suffering. IMO it makes it hard to judge him based on his interactions with the hosts.

 

[JoeBoy101]

If this is a physical world, why is that Teddy can shoot at Ed Harris without injuring him? I understand if it's coded into the hosts that they can't harm a guest, but he acted by pulling the trigger multiple times. Blanks wouldn't make sense because the same gun killed other hosts.

It must be something simple. What am I missing?

I imagine their guns are not 'just' guns. Remember, the intro showed them building them especially. I imagine all firearms are set not to eject a bullet at any guest. Remember, this is fairly far future here.

The park advertises itself as the hosts being nonhuman and them not really suffering. IMO it makes it hard to judge him based on his interactions with the hosts.

Is the action evil, even if there is no living, feeling victim who it harms? That's a core concept surrounding the show. That and where sentience begins and ends. Is his actions akin to indulging in deviant porn, or is it more than that? And if so, why?

These kinds of questions are part of the reason I love how the show presents itself.

 

[TheOctodad]

Loved the first episode! The preview for. The upcoming weeks looks like it's going to be an awesome ride.

 

[Chase17]

Wait, it's a physical world?

How's that supposed to work.

Clean up crew must be working overtime.

 

[More_Badass]

If this is a physical world, why is that Teddy can shoot at Ed Harris without injuring him? I understand if it's coded into the hosts that they can't harm a guest, but he acted by pulling the trigger multiple times. Blanks wouldn't make sense because the same gun killed other hosts.

It must be something simple. What am I missing?

One possibility I'm imagining is that Ed Harris is a host who gained self-awareness and is trying to study and understand it

That was perfect, I loved every second of it. Damn is the soundtrack on fire, that Paint It Black rendition was so good. This has checked so many boxes for me and I couldn't be happier, hoping for years out of this show.

Yes, it was exactly what I wanted. The bleak cynical sci-fi mixed with the almost generic Western was so effective.

Wait, it's a physical world?

How's that supposed to work.

Did you not see all the robots being made and tested? It's like a really advanced "It's A Small World" + ARG/LARPing

 

[Chase17]

I liked the music for the most part. The whole shootout/heist scene was pretty much ruined for me with the paint it black rendition though, as I spent most of it focused on what the son was.

 

[Zabka]

But you have no idea what his motives are, if he raped anyone, or actually has committed a villainous act.

I don't understand what your boggle is. The show is clearly portraying him as a villain in this episode. Whether that is a cover for a later twist or reveal or not is irrelevant to the statement I made.

I like watching Ed Harris be an evil prick. I got that.

 

[Sanjuro]

I don't understand what your boggle is. The show is clearly portraying him as a villain in this episode. Whether that is a cover for a later twist or reveal or not is irrelevant to the statement I made.

I like watching Ed Harris be an evil prick. I got that.

Congrats!

 

[Wag]

Wait, it's a physical world?

How's that supposed to work.

Clean up crew must be working overtime.

It's a fully functioning "mini-World".

There is clearly down-time between sessions when the village resets itself, that's when everything gets cleaned up and repaired.

 

[Chase17]

Did you not see all the robots being made and tested? It's like a really advanced "It's A Small World" + ARG/LARPing

Edit: nvm post above me answers

I was seeing it as a matrix thing for some reason.

Edit 2: explains why that guy was ready to get a picture

 

[Zabka]

Congrats!

Thanks. Always glad to help you when you get confused.

 

[serenewarfare]

Wow. That pilot was amazing. Everything from the performances to the writing to the cinematography was pitch perfect. Seemed like it was a hellish production, but I'd say it turned out for the best.

Can't wait to see how it goes going forward.

 

[jfkgoblue]

Wow. That pilot was amazing. Everything from the performances to the writing to the cinematography was pitch perfect. Seemed like it was a hellish production, but I'd say it turned out for the best.

Can't wait to see how it goes going forward.

Read somewhere that they spent $100 million on production

 

[serenewarfare]

Read somewhere that they spent $100 million on production

That's about what they spend on GoT now per season, so I could see them justifying that price tag easier now if the show is anywhere near that level of success.

 

[jfkgoblue]

That's about what they spend on GoT now per season, so I could see them justifying that price tag easier now if the show is anywhere near that level of success.

They need something to replace GoT and right now they're hoping that's west world

 

[SeanC]

Very dense first episode, this show has a lot of things to juggle and seems to be doing a fine job doing so. Really looking forward to more.

 

[wesleyshark]

Well, damn. This first episode was fucking great. Can't wait for next week!

 

[Sanjuro]

Thanks. Always glad to help you when you get confused.

How am I confused?

You are expressing displeasure regarding any conversation beyond, "Ed Harris is bad. I like bad Ed Harris.", in a discussion thread after the premiere episode.

 

[More_Badass]

She killed the fly at the end. Guess she can take a life.

 

[ezekial45]

Once it was clear that it was set after the first movie, I was hoping I'd see Yul Brynner's character as one of the synths in the storage room.

 

[Chase17]

Do we know how many episode this season will be. 10?

 

[FTF]

Yup, that was great. I'm all in.

 

[fallengorn]

Once it was clear that it was set after the first movie, I was hoping I'd see Yul Brynner's character as one of the synths in the storage room.

Like a charred up husk just standing there?

 

[Sanjuro]

I forgot how old this program was from production to airing.

Eddie Rouse died in 2014.

 

[ezekial45]

Like a charred up husk just standing there?

Maybe? Or perhaps they just fixed him up and put him back in after the events of the movie.

That's what happened in Futureworld, but I'm assuming that's not a part of canon.

 

[serenewarfare]

Do we know how many episode this season will be. 10?

Yes, it's 10.

 

[Chase17]

Props to the actor playing the father. A scene like that always runs the risk of being corny but he nailed it.

 

[fallengorn]

Maybe? Or perhaps they just fixed him up and put him back in after the events of the movie.

That's what happened in Futureworld, but I'm assuming that's not a part of cannon.

Oh yeah, the sequel. Never got around to watching it.

Edit: Reading the synopsis of Futureworld, there's no way that's canon for the show.

 

[Baroquemantic]

Watching that Paint It Black scene again. So good.

 

[More_Badass]

The opening credits sequence was great too. Some cool imagery

 

[styl3s]

Watching that Paint It Black scene again. So good.

I rewound that scene twice before finishing the episode it was so great.

I need that cover ASAP.

 

[Pocks]

I imagine their guns are not 'just' guns. Remember, the intro showed them building them especially. I imagine all firearms are set not to eject a bullet at any guest. Remember, this is fairly far future here.

[snip]

That seems reasonable. It's worth noting that the hosts guns do affect the environment though, so projectiles must be firing from the weapon. It's hard to imagine a failsafe weapon that prevents harm of humans.

I'd love to get more information from the showrunners. Perhaps we'll get an explanation in a later episode. Otherwise my suspension of disbelief is in danger.

 

[scorcher59]

I don´t know if it was meant to be but the underlying tone of the whole episode (and maybe the whole show) is that there's something seriously fucked up about this whole park thing...
I love it!
I do feel it might get a bit too heavy but then again still have got a ways to go

 

[PhoncipleBone]

I rewound that scene twice before finishing the episode it was so great.

I need that cover ASAP.

Looks to be by Gary Tesca according to SoundHound.

 

[Tangled Up in Blue]

1) There seems to be some ulterior movies behind testing and designing lifelike AI/machines given that talk about management and shareholders

2) Ed Harris' character seems interested in exploiting and understanding how the machines work.

3) The show made us assume he's a guest given that he couldn't get hurt, but we never see him on or around the train.

Yeah, my guess is that Harris is a host who has become self-aware and has learned how to hide from the sensors. He knows it's all fake and he wants out to be a real boy. #TrumanShow2016

 

[Fantastical]

Really didn't feel much about this pilot... which is kind of damning. Not bad but I'm certainly not dying to see the next episode.

Hopefully it hooks me in the next few weeks.

 

[derder]

Too dense. Getting some vibes from The Walking Dead where they reveal concepts too quickly.

I still prefer the LOST pacing even if they went off the rails a bit.