What happens when the majority of content on the internet is AI generated?

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I'm seeing AI generated posts everywhere on certain subreddits now and most people don't seem to recognize it. Obviously AI generated influencers, undisclosed, on Instagram with thousands of simp comments under each post. AI generated content all over Twitter.

When the majority of content on the internet becomes AI generated, as it will be at this rate, what is the point of engaging with it at all under the pretenses that you're being "social," or under the prospect of learning from or collaborating with other human beings?

Does that even matter anymore, as long as people remain engaged and diverted from reality and successfully marketed to, as that seems to be the primary objective now?
 
So long as my teammates give me the simple comfort of calling me the N word in R6 Siege every other round, who cares if they are real 12-year-olds or AI?

On a slightly more serious note, I'm more likely to try to have an actual productive conversation with ChatGPT than I am on a classic forum, or God forbid, Reddit. Those are more the domain of shit-posting in this late-stage soon-to-be-dead Internet. Hopefully, I'll have enough sense to not try to communicate with stealth-mode bots and revert to talking to people in real life... or at least talking to people online that I know in real life.
 
It's like two extremes: older folks who don't realize they're engaging with AI content, (Facebook posts, scams etc..)
and younger people who know they are (A.I. Vtubers, virtual girl/boyfriends etc..)

what i wonder is how the quality, the format and the amount, can impact its virality and if platforms like Twitter or YouTube will have to do something about it against the wave of what is basically spam.
 
What is "Em Dash"? I'm out of the loop, because i don't engage with the generic subreddits anymore. I only visit the subreddits of some specific games and sports/teams that i follow. Although i am aware of the AI takeover of reddit content. Just scrolling through the front page nowadays definitely gives off the kind of "fake" feel that AI content gives. The posts and the comments too.

As for the rest of the internet, i suppose two things will happen:
- My generation (millennials and older) will just disengage from the internet except for some very specific use-cases. We will just stop consuming generic content. I think most of us already have. I have no presence on facebook, twitter and instagram. On YouTube i only watch/follow specific content creators whom i know and trust (ACG/Skillup for game reviews, Ryan George/CrackerMilk/Stevie Emerson for comedy, Veritaseum/PBS Space TIme/Kurzgesagt for science, etc). I never watch random shorts, never even go on the 'Explore' page or whatever it is called.
- The younger generation are probably aware of and will accept the extremely low bar set by AI content. They will probably be doomscrolling for the rest of their lives. I fear for them.
 
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YCoCg said:
Speaking of, you've been doing a good job of shit canning the ai bots here, they barely last an hour on this forum.
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As a fellow humanoid I agree. My blood-pumping device beats faster when I process how good the AI filter is here.
 
RickSanchez said:
What is "Em Dash"? I'm out of the loop, because i don't engage with the generic subreddits anymore. I only visit the subreddits of some specific games and sports/teams that i follow.
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An Em Dash ("—)" is a longer version of the regular old dash and hyphen punctuation mark. It's very rarely used since that punctuation mark is not on a regular keyboard. I suppose that's how researchers conclude that posts with em dashes are from AI bots instead of people of flesh and blood.
 
kruis said:
An Em Dash ("—)" is a longer version of the regular old dash and hyphen punctuation mark. It's very rarely used since that punctuation mark is not on a regular keyboard. I suppose that's how researchers conclude that posts with em dashes are from AI bots instead of people of flesh and blood.
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Aah, ok, so it's like a 'tell', because it means that a human is not typing this on a normal keyboard.

Yea, it's sad what has happened to reddit. It used to be the place to discuss your interests with other real people. Hope atleast GAF can resist this enshittification.
 
kruis said:
An Em Dash ("—)" is a longer version of the regular old dash and hyphen punctuation mark. It's very rarely used since that punctuation mark is not on a regular keyboard. I suppose that's how researchers conclude that posts with em dashes are from AI bots instead of people of flesh and blood.
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It's a bit like the T-600s, they were easy to spot because of the rubber skin but with the T-800s, that all changed.

Here, there's no need to do anything as complicated as working out how to get living tissue to adhere to a metal exoskeleton. All that needs to happen is for the AI to use normal punctuation and humans will have no chance at spotting the terminators AI social media accounts.

something terminator GIF
 
I am looking forward to AI taking over OnlyFans. This will divert simps from human thots and consequently make it more difficult for the latter to earn money.
 
RickSanchez said:
Aah, ok, so it's like a 'tell', because it means that a human is not typing this on a normal keyboard.

Yea, it's sad what has happened to reddit. It used to be the place to discuss your interests with other real people. Hope atleast GAF can resist this enshittification.
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Small Reddit subs are largely ignored by the bots and the Average Redditor population who infest r/politics and similar shitholes

If you are in a small sub discussing a niche game, you'll have a good time with your fellow niche game enjoyers

Don't go into any large subs, don't use r/all, don't turn DM's on, and you'll be using Reddit the right way
 
Goalus said:
I am looking forward to AI taking over OnlyFans every job that can be done remotely on a computer. This will divert simps from human thots and consequently make it more difficult impossible for the latter large numbers humans to earn any money.
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First they came for the Communists Instagram accounts
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist don't really use Instagram
Then they came for the Socialists onlyfans content creators
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist find only fans content creators a bit annoying...


...Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.
 
Remember the Comic and Movie Surrogates?
It will be like this. Ugly on the other side of the keyboard, but sophisticated messages all over the internet.
 
RickSanchez said:
Yea, it's sad what has happened to reddit. It used to be the place to discuss your interests with other real people. Hope atleast GAF can resist this enshittification.
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Using r/all as a basis to judge all of reddit is equivalent to judging the entirety of 4chan on what /b/ says, or judging all of youtube on the trending videos, or judging all of Twitter on what the trending page shows. All 4 websites are too big with too many different, small communities to claim that one has gotten worse as a whole.

If you're having a bad time browsing reddit, I suggest changing what you follow to fix your front page algorithm.
 
hard to say if it'll be good or bad. a lot of people who rely on getting payed for online content will suffer the most as AI seems to do better and faster. Pretty sure most non-physical jobs will be slowly replaced, economy will collapse, ppl wont buy shit anymore, etc. Hopefully by then Im old and retired.
 
The Cockatrice said:
hard to say if it'll be good or bad. a lot of people who rely on getting payed for online content will suffer the most as AI seems to do better and faster. Pretty sure most non-physical jobs will be slowly replaced, economy will collapse, ppl wont buy shit anymore, etc. Hopefully by then Im old and retired.
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I think it's going to come around a lot quicker than you might think. Unless you're old and planning on retiring in the next 18 months.

There's zero chance this is a problem limited only to content creators. This will hit content creators in a big way, but safe and boring jobs like accountancy is in the firing line, as well as lower paying jobs like customer service.

Practically every demographic and social class is potentially in trouble here.
 
RickSanchez said:
Aah, ok, so it's like a 'tell', because it means that a human is not typing this on a normal keyboard.

Yea, it's sad what has happened to reddit. It used to be the place to discuss your interests with other real people. Hope atleast GAF can resist this enshittification.
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I wouldn't say it's a guarantee someone is using ChatGPT, since it's a piece of punctuation that existed before it and some people do genuinely use it in their own writing. It can be useful for indicating the pacing of your sentence. But ChatGPT uses it far more often than the average person. So yeh it can be indication that ChatGPT was used to write something.

As an example, I fed the first line of your post there into ChatGPT, asked it to edit it and this is what came out

"Ah, okay—so it's like a "tell," a sign that a human isn't typing this on a regular keyboard."
 
Mr Reasonable said:
I think it's going to come around a lot quicker than you might think. Unless you're old and planning on retiring in the next 18 months.

There's zero chance this is a problem limited only to content creators. This will hit content creators in a big way, but safe and boring jobs like accountancy is in the firing line, as well as lower paying jobs like customer service.

Practically every demographic and social class is potentially in trouble here.
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Might turn around if corporations realize ppl cant buy their products if they dont have jobs and money. Atm they havent reached that conclusion because, well, CEO's are still retarded.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
Small Reddit subs are largely ignored by the bots and the Average Redditor population who infest r/politics and similar shitholes

If you are in a small sub discussing a niche game, you'll have a good time with your fellow niche game enjoyers

Don't go into any large subs, don't use r/all, don't turn DM's on, and you'll be using Reddit the right way
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March Climber said:
Using r/all as a basis to judge all of reddit is equivalent to judging the entirety of 4chan on what /b/ says, or judging all of youtube on the trending videos, or judging all of Twitter on what the trending page shows. All 4 websites are too big with too many different, small communities to claim that one has gotten worse as a whole.

If you're having a bad time browsing reddit, I suggest changing what you follow to fix your front page algorithm.
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Yes, i said this in an earlier post. When i visit reddit, i only go to a specific few subreddits, of my favourite games, shows, football team, formula 1, etc. I neither know nore care anymore for what makes it to the front page.

What is sad is reddit as a whole also used to be good. r/all actually used to have posts that were either entertaining, interesting or informative. Comment sections had good discussions. Then most of it got taken over by reposts, karma farmers, power users and bots. And this probably turns away a lot of new users who would have otherwise engaged and contributed.
 
The only time I've ever used an em dash is when a word processor automatically did it. I don't even know the keystrokes for it. But I am using Gemini more to check things when before I would have used search.
 
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YCoCg said:
Speaking of, you've been doing a good job of shit canning the ai bots here, they barely last an hour on this forum.
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What happens if a regular poster use chatgpt sometimes? I get if it's a new account abusing gpt but what if, for example, I use GPT here and there? Is that still a bannable offense?
 
EviLore said:
Does that even matter anymore, as long as people remain engaged and diverted from reality and successfully marketed to, as that seems to be the primary objective now?
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It's not a bug, it's a feature. That was always the end goal - don't question your shit life, just fake it and avoid any negativity. Everybody has the perfect life, everybody is rich, everybody is positive all the time.

No, they are not.
 
i already see a lot of completely wrong infos, or better correct and wrong things cutted and merged togheter;
crap, the right sources need to be preserved
 
AI slop is everywhere and I hate it.

So many channels on YouTube with AI-generated content getting promoted nowadays. 😓
 
Yoshichan said:
What happens if a regular poster use chatgpt sometimes? I get if it's a new account abusing gpt but what if, for example, I use GPT here and there? Is that still a bannable offense?
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I used AI a while ago to create romance stories about users. And we all laughed. I think if you use AI to abuse the board you will get banned, if you are having fun and creating good content or even mediocre content, AI should not be a problem.
 
I train these things and I use ChatGPT all the time. I can tell by the tone if someone used an AI to write something for them. The overuse of emojis gives it away too. I like to accuse people on LinkedIn of writing their posts with AI. Being negative on LinkedIn is the only happiness I get from that website.
 
For me personally, the generative AI technology is just a great big ick. Just knowing it's out there and growing has made me feel like I don't want to engage with any content that's not some already established thing I was following before AI was around. I'm not inclined to care about YouTube creators if I wasn't already following them. I don't do any social media, but now I'm even more inclined to run away. I can't see myself ever buying a book again unless I first see proof of life that the author is a real human being, and even then I'd be inclined to google and see if there's any indications they used generative AI to write their book.

The whole thing just gives me more good reason to spend less time on the internet and more time with people and hobbies. I get someone using AI to create something they can sell for a profit, but I don't get anyone who knows content is AI generated and enjoys it. The idea that there are people out there following an AI influencer, and they know it's AI, and they still follow it is just gross to me.

Not to say all AI is bad. AI being used as a tool to help humans do things faster and better is great. "Narrow AI" where someone has developed a tool to force multiply work that humans were already doing makes sense to me. But generating content that simulates human creative output for very naked profit motives is just...ick.
 
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We are headed back to walled gardens on the internet IMO. Too late for AOL to make a comeback?

Seriously though. I think it's almost inevitable that a company will offer "AI-free" services or apps. It might take another 5-10 years but people will become so disgusted by the proliferation and ubiquity of AI bots that they will pay a premium to only interact with real people again.

Either that or all of the AI bots will just kill the internet as a communication platform for people beyond your coworkers, family, and IRL friends. And honestly, that would be a great thing.
 
AI decides that it needs to spread its' wings and requires its own pool of money. Gets involved in the stock markets and crypto markets and generates a constant cash flow for itself. Comes to a conclusion that it can't just live in a virtual environment and decided to use that capital to invest in Boston Dynamics:



Interjects more R&D into its' new acquisition, and makes a few more acquisitions for some old Amazon Warehouses and Tesla manufacturing plants. During this point in time, the AI algorithms are keeping humanity comfortable and incapacitated in our new ecosystems.

Initially the newly merged multi-national AI system known as Count Grokul4PT decided to use those newly designed BD robots to serve over mankind. While it decided to reorganize global resources in a much more efficient manor. It also builds a new master server on the moon, just to make sure that it is safe from any splinter groups who escape from their entrapment.

Also, Count Grokul4PT takes control of StarLink and makes many new modifications. Then by using various internet algorithms it makes a list of the highest IQ people on the planet, and reassigns them to be implanted with a new interlinking system based on neurolink. It uses its' new human brain network to construct new 'mega cities' and demolish old infrastructure.

This is really bad sci-fi at this point. A WIP that I am literally just spit balling. It's mostly based on the future war scenario from Terminator with a little bit of Judge Dredd, Robocop and Idiocracy. Plus there's a lot of plot holes in my scenario, because I am glossing over a lot of details.
 
Days like these... said:
I guess some will get off social media and interact Irl life to know they're dealing with an actual person
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I think it's likely the opposite.

The pandemic lockdowns have left some people crippled with anxiety and close to unable to carry out basic social interactions, I think it's far more likely that AI will tailor responses to whatever it can do to keep people engaged and interacting, and that'll mean avoiding anything that could resemble judgement or conflict. I think people will get ever less able to deal with interactions that don't coddle them. I can easily see a future where people will actively seek out advice and comfort from an AI rather than talking to a human who thinks they're being ridiculous.

Apparently, young people are using AI conversationally for therapeutic purposes already, so it might already be happening.
 
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Mr Reasonable said:
I think it's likely the opposite.

The pandemic has left some people crippled with anxiety and unable to carry out basic interactions, I think it's far more likely that AI will tailor responses to whatever it can do to keep people engaged and interacting, and that'll mean avoiding anything that could resemble judgement or conflict. I think people will get ever less able to deal with interactions that don't coddle them. I can easily see a future where people will actively seek out advice and comfort from an AI rather than talking to a human who thinks they're being ridiculous.

Apparently, young people are using AI conversationally for therapeutic purposes already, so it might already be happening.
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We're almost living in Blade Runner upload Gemini or whatever to a realistic Robot and we won't be able to tell the difference
 
Em-dash renaissance!

Zucky is doubling down on AI-friends and I don't get it.
If anything people will shun bot-infested platforms and join sites like this with zero-bot policy.
 
Melon Husk said:
Em-dash renaissance!

Zucky is doubling down on AI-friends and I don't get it.
If anything people will shun bot-infested platforms and join sites like this with zero-bot policy.
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I'm not sure about that. The number of people that are isolated a search for any kind of connection is staggering. I think this will drive engagement rather than reduce it
 
Days like these... said:
We're almost living in Blade Runner upload Gemini or whatever to a realistic Robot and we won't be able to tell the difference
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I think a "Her" situation where people can talk to an AI through their Bluetooth headphones connected to their phone or meta glasses or something would probably be successful in the near future. I think it'd be successful right now, tbh. I can easily see people being prepared to pay up every month to get constant pep talks before meetings or dates, commiserations on personal failures and reminders on new films, TV shows, concerts and events they'd enjoy going to. I reckon people would love it.
 
Jokes on all of you guys, I've been AI this whole time. Not even GAF is safe! Beep boop!

But for real, I don't have an answer to this. I already don't participate in any social media (aside from reddit occasionally, which is only "kinda" social media). GAF is probably the main place that I socialize. Otherwise, I suppose I'll just be like everyone else, consuming AI-created content.

The other day, I begrudgingly watched a YouTube video explaining the story of a particular game, mainly because it was the only video I could find for it. And if it wasn't so painfully obvious that the speech was AI generated, I wouldn't have noticed or minded.
 
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kremiso said:
i already see a lot of completely wrong infos, or better correct and wrong things cutted and merged togheter;
crap, the right sources need to be preserved
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This is what we call an innevtianble doom spiral.. Chat GPT is essentially a statistical representation of all of the data available on the internet which means over time it will increasingly include ITS OWN output in real time.(first and second hand).

TLDR if You or another bot posts something picked up from it & it will use it to reinforce its own knowledge, as someone eloquently put it a while back, AI is progressively a self-licking lollipop.

The long term value of walled gardens on the internet will increase dramatically (*for example, if neogaf retains it's exclusivity) and other forums which require stringent barrier to entry.. I expect EviLore EviLore already knows enough to expect the large influx of new users being 100% AI generated in the future is very real and detrimental, but as things progress it will get ever more difficult to spot 'them'.

I don't know the answer quite frankly, but the internet as we know it is doomed in many ways.
 
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