Manmademan
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the hell is this
What mutant in X-Men has the coolest/best powers?
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the hell is this
They call them sentences.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
I'm gonna need a link for the spider man thing
Manmademan
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correct. marvel also even went so far as to slap "the non mutant super hero!" on spidey's books back in the 90s...for reasons I was never quite clear on.
http://www.comicvine.com/news/off-my-mind-is-spider-man-considered-a-mutant/142597/
Not interested in further derailing the thread but that basically sums up my thoughts on the subject.
Manmademan
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lol. yeah, this is one columnist's wankery on what would qualify as a mutant. It's total bullshit.
It's marvel's universe, so they make the rules on what qualifies, and mutants need an active X-gene, otherwise every single individual with powers would be a mutant. DC's rules are different- everyone with powers is a metahuman, and mutants don't exist there at all. It's not "professor X" making the rules, but marvel editorial.
as it is, there's a clear line between super-powered heroes (like spiderman, or the FF), mutants (who have x-genes), and MUTATES, who are genetically altered men/women/animals with no X-gene. We could also go further to look at offshoots of humanity like the inhumans and deviants, who are powered via mutations but explicitly NOT mutants either.
whoever wrote that couldn't possibly have read a comic ever.
yeah, most teleporters could, just by teleporting away a part of the body- there's almost no defense against it and the only reason it's not an instant game over is because most of them aren't killers. Blink's powers fall in the same category. Kitty pryde can phase people halfway into things and leave them there, which is almost as bad.
Manmademan
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and as long as there's moisture somewhere, he's nearly unkillable. he doesnt' need a body anymore.
psychics might have a field day with him though.
He was referred to as a mutant in cannon before I just cant remember where. Pointless argument anyway so I'll just go with magneto on crack
Manmademan
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It's never happened. did you miss the part where marvel slapped THIS IS NOT A MUTANT on his covers for a decade?
they even trademarked "the non mutant superhero" and it refers explicitly to spider man.
Boss Riovane
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Personally i like Vanisher over Nightcrawler. At least teleporting wise.
ThoseDeafMutes
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What is the difference?
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
He leaves his ice structures all over the place for people to hurt themselves on. What a dick
He was referred to as a mutant in cannon before I just cant remember where. Pointless argument anyway so I'll just go with magneto on crack
Ahh joseph. Such wasted potential
correct. marvel also even went so far as to slap "the non mutant super hero!" on spidey's books back in the 90s...for reasons I was never quite clear on.
I think it's because 90s Marvel was all about X-Men. It was their heyday.
Hey look I found somebody who insists that Spider-Man is a mutant even though he isn't.
Boss Riovane
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Nightcrawler over time exerts himself with each port. He also consciously has to know where he is teleporting to. He also strains when porting more than one person. Vanisher can teleport countries without thinking. Doesnt exert himself with multiple ports. He subconsciously doesnt run into anything doesnt need knowledge of area etc.
Basically imagine you got 2 versions of a missile ones a fire and forget the other has to be programmed for short range accuracy.
Manmademan
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yeah, that was posted earlier. he's involved with comicvine, but has never been on the creative side of the business- just a high school math teacher that likes comics.
not exactly the most authoritative source.
Charles Foster Kane
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I don't know who this Franklin Richards is, but he certainly has one of the lamest mutant names.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
How about Psi lord then?
Dude bosses around Galactus, he doesn't need a mutant name.
Manmademan
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Jaspers is *debatably* stronger than franklin is, but it's a close one.
I'm not sure why one would even make a villain that stong. it's dangerously close to beyonder levels of OP
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Mad Jim is omniversal, but with Franklin's recent feats, I don't know how to gauge him against jimmy since I'm sure they'll stack feats if they use adult Franklin again
Adult Franklin is pretty beastly. I really have a hard time seeing anyone beat him, especially after he took down like 4 Galactus level dudes at once.
Manmademan
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It could probably go either way. Mad Jim is unkillable as long as reality exists. The version we saw hadn't even hit full power yet. he was only warping one universe as opposed to thousands or whatever.
he DOES have that weakness, but it's not obvious- there just happened to be a zone where all reality had been obliterated, rendering him powerless. Probably not something that would usually come up in a fight.
maybe franklin could will a pocket universe into being that contains "no reality" and take the fight there to end it, but that would be a hell of a stretch to make work.
combat between all powerful beings always made my head hurt.
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FRANKLIN'S POWERFUL IN OUR WORLD TOO. SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO STILL HAVE NOT READ THE GREATEST COMIC EVER WRITTEN (JONATHAN HICKMAN'S FANTASTIC FOUR RUN)
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I dunno about that, her machinations in The Greatest Comic Ever Written were the star of the show. Franklin has the big epic MASSIVE powers, but Val knows what's up.
She's like the smartest person who will ever live. As it is she's getting to the point where she can give Reed a run for his money.
She made a working lightsaber for giggles and she's like 7.
Being smart is kinda worthless in Marvel though, since intelligence never solves problems.
Unless she's gonna be a villain.
That's like Reed's whole thing though.
Well yeah. They don't say "Reed Richards is a Jerk" for nothing. Like, if there's one thing we've learned from One More Day, it's that, even if Reed could solve problems with his brain, he won't.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Hopefully she won't inherit superdickery from her father
Retcon or not, no matter what, Jean IS Phoenix.
"I am always Jean Grey, and I am always the Phoenix"
Jean Grey is an Omega class mutant
Xavier and Moira MacTaggert have always known of Jean's potential
Phoenix (even if you go by the Phoenix Force version) represents Jean's full potential as a psi
"Marvel Girl" Jean Grey, immediately post-resurrection in the early X-Factor days, caused Destiny to become future blind...Jean's mere presence disrupted her precognitive powers, and she called her "a nexus of probabilities"
Jean's clones, offspring, and clones' offspring are all incredibly powerful mutants. That's her genetic potential they're taping into.
Nate Grey was "unlocked" after a mental connection was formed with his genetic mother, AoA Jean Grey
A single vial of Jean's blood was called "Telekinetic Godhood in a Jar"
Despite other avatars, Jean's role is unique and supreme, as the White Phoenix of the Crown, and telekinetically "rewound" every atom in the universe back 150 to change the Here Comes Tomorrow timeline
Onslaught sought to augment Jean's mind to his own...her resistance was enough not only to deny him access to her mind, but also disrupt his own cohesiveness....his next attempts? Nate Grey and Franklin Richards....pretty clear example of the company she keeps, power-wise.
Jean mind has manifested the Phoenix effect as a young girl, long before the shuttle incident
Jean's mind, as a young girl, was used by Xavier to calibrate Cerebro
Jean, as a teenager, subconsciously eroded Xavier's sophisticated mental blocks just by intuitively trying to reach out to Scott
...and many more facts that prove that Phoenix isn't just a dress that anyone can wear but just happens to fit Jean the best.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
I swear omni, I only see you when jean is brought up. Do you lurk on the gaming side more?
Boss Riovane
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You know what i would love to comeback honestly is the storyline about the 13 marvel characters that are supposed to lead humanity into the future. Maybe im mistaken but i know quite a few xmen were on the list. Then again if it was handled today it would be retconned probably...
Valeria Richards gives no fucks.
No way, being smart is the best in Marvel U. Richards, Richards, Stark. Even Banner's intellect is getting some love these days.
No way, being smart is the best in Marvel U. Richards, Richards, Stark. Even Banner's intellect is getting some love these days.
Rastafarian42
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Lol, I guess the GAF member cycle goes Gaming>OT>Lurk. I mostly lurk OT, though I did check out the gaming side for the PS4 conference.
Life has just gotten very "real" these past few years(starting a relationship, losing my mother to cancer, starting a company in a different land/culture and largely learning as I go), so I have less time to post in and follow most threads I'm interested in....as corny as it may sound, posting about comics and the X-Men/Jean Grey in particular, anchors me to a simpler time in my life.
Boss Riovane
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Man i dont know you from adam but i love it when people drop comic knowledge. Look forward to your post from now on. Spittin knowledge about Jean is too cool.
voodoopanda
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I haven't kept up with the character and I think he's changed a bit over time, but original Doug Ramsey/Cypher. Dude could understand every language and translate everything. Coolest power right there.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Isn't Luckshot or whatever his name is has a mutant power of being lucky?
Longshot? I thought his power was the power of a mullet.
How so? Is he similar to Domino or Scarlet Witch?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Oh Longshot. iirc his mutant power was that he is incredibly lucky or something, hence "long shot".
Rayven_king
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I'm thinking forge: invent something awesome with my powers, have it reverse engineered, sell it and become filthy rich
Winterfang
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I though Franklin Richards was a little kid.
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