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[Somnid]

Somnid mentioned how Google and Apple no longer attend E3 and CES as a sign that "these shows no longer matter" and that it's best to have your own. These are a TERRIBLE comparison because they're not at all what Nintendo has been doing recently. Each of these companies hosts their own major press conference on a big stage with a large media presence. Let's compare!

BUILD, IO, WWDC, and Re:Invent are developer conferences. I would argue Nintendo could use one of these. They are events to engage the development communities. They are also yearly.

Nintendo Direct is bi-monthly most of the time and it's to engage consumers, not technical people. They don't care to have sales numbers and PR lines stuffed down their throats, it's not the place for that. It's a very different sort of thing but the main point I was making is that if you drop the serious money it takes to rent an auditorium and make a big presentation you should have a stage and attention to yourself, not that ND is a substitute for all sorts of engagements.

 

[Jado]

every single Nintendo Direct gets reported on throughout all the major gaming sites. that =/= zero media buzz

Obligatory reporting is not media buzz. You really don't see the difference between a by-the-numbers article and immense media attention around Nintendo and Wii in 2006-2008? Hardly anyone outside a small hardcore segment cares about the Directs.

BBC re Nintendo E3 2013. This is about as mainstream as you can get in the UK

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22860677

You're right, E3 does get coverage outside of the gaming media. Here's CNN reporting on Nintendo at E3 2013
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/13/tech/gaming-gadgets/nintendo-e3/

And CNBC
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100810130

Did you notice all these Nintendo articles you posted are negative? That's not coincidence and it's also not a sign of media buzz.

Sry but people attending Google I/O are mostly developers and it's not happening to just announce new devices.

BUILD, IO, WWDC, and Re:Invent are developer conferences. I would argue Nintendo could use one of these. They are events to engage the development communities. They are also yearly.

Not true. On paper, yes. However all of Google and Apple's big conferences get massive mainstream media attention and consumer interest. Each one has a number of big announcements that generate lots of news material being read by captivated end users. No one is tuning out because it's "for developers only."

Some key Wikipedia excerpts about WWDC:

Apple in recent years has webcast the keynote address to an audience much wider than just developers.... Since 2006, the hardware introductions have become even more important, including recent iPhone announcements.

Scroll down to 2013 and read about the long list of consumer-focused announcements Google made at their conference. These are why tickets for these events sell out instantly. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_io

You wanna know what's truly for insiders only? LegalTech which I spent some time at a couple of months ago. Or the HOW Design Live Conference I'll be attending in a couple of months. Big difference between these and the mainstream consumer-focused conferences from tech and gaming.

 

[Towels]

Did you notice all these Nintendo articles you posted are negative? That's not coincidence and it's also not a sign of media buzz.

I was showing that the Nintendo Direct at E3 was not treated as a E3 no-show by mainstream press and Nintendo was not ignored at the event as a result.

That was a big part of the argument against another Nintendo Direct in 2014, and is a point that can be proved is false (even if coverage was less than favourable)

Edit-spelling

 

[BY2K]

I got excited because there was an article about a Nintendo guy talking about E3 but turns out it was just the Head of Licensing Marketing and all he said was "Last year was our first year at E3 with an indie presence but this year will most likely focus on Smash and Mario Kart".

 

[Mr. Bamboo]

I got excited because there was an article about a Nintendo guy talking about E3 but turns out it was just the Head of Licensing Marketing and all he said was "Last year was our first year at E3 with an indie presence but this year will most likely focus on Smash and Mario Kart".

Well that's strange. Hopefully not too much time is dedicated to Mario Kart 8, as it'll be available before E3. Perhaps a demo on the show floor to make more people become aware of its existence on the Wii U. It'd also be great to see a Super Smash Bros. demo for the public. Having videos of people versing should generate a lot of excitement for the game and system.

I wonder what the showroom layout will be. Zelda oriented to coincide with the Zelda U demo

?

 

[BY2K]

I don't think the fact that he mentioned Smash and Kart specifically means anything. He probably doesn't know much more than we do about Nintendo's plans for E3.

 

[Grizzo]

Nintendo tend to reveal their stuff out of nowhere. For example, this time last year, we didn't know Super Mario 3D World was a thing and that came out before the year ended.

You're right, but I feel like we learned about Animal Crossing New Leaf way before its release date. I remember getting excited about this game in like early 2012. That being said, we'll see if Nintendo can surprise us this time around. I do hope so, even though I've become mostly pessimistic about that company.

 

[goomba]

announce google or facebook have bought them out

 

[-Horizon-]

I don't think the fact that he mentioned Smash and Kart specifically means anything. He probably doesn't know much more than we do about Nintendo's plans for E3.

The E3 bears haven't even been woken up by Iwata yet. He doesn't know anything.

 

[catmario]

http://mw.nikkei.com/sp/#!/article/DGXNMSGD2601A_28032014000000/

I'm really Sorry for everyone. I should have improve english skills

But This article showing bad sign for both Iwata and nintendo.

 

[lantus]

I really don't know what to expect from them this year. I can't recall the last time I was actually impressed by a press conference they had. Last year was just sad though, the only one who didn't seem to embarrass themselves was Sony.

 

[Hyperactivity]

I really don't know what to expect from them this year. I can't recall the last time I was actually impressed by a press conference they had. Last year was just sad though, the only one who didn't seem to embarrass themselves was Sony.

2010 was their last AMAZING conference. 2011 barely lost out because horrible WiiU reveal. They had the 3ds games, hardware revision, Zelda Symphony amazing starter, etc.

 

[Converse]

I'm gonna counter all this 3DS revision talk and throw this one out there: a Wii U revision. Form-factor wise, there's little else you can do with the 3DS and Nintendo seems pretty comfortable offering the 3DS, 3DS XL and 2DS as three legitimate options.

On the other hand, E3 is just a few months out from Wii U's two-year anniversary. Every console last gen got a revision, and the time is ripe for it. In my opinion, it's the best move -- business-wise -- Nintendo could make for the Wii U at this point, if coupled with a major advertising push and a solid, consistent lineup of games (a minor price drop would help as well). Worked for the PS3 and 3DS.

That is, if Nintendo makes an effort in the Wii U department. They could very well pull a "third pillar" with their QoL platform, silently shifting focus to whatever that is.

 

[clav]

Gamepad-less Wii-U

or

A Wii-U bundled with Mario Kart

Something to sell Wii-Us.

 

[Aostia]

I hope they'll

avoid:
QOL reveal
3DS redesign
Already known games exagerated reiteration

show:
dates for already known games (with '14 confirmation for various of them)
confirmation of desappeared games (Yoshi, SMT x FE)
Zelda U trailer
NFC Pokemon trading-card game
NFC Nintendo Kingdom figure-based game
NFC payments and online purchase for the eshop
Animal Crossing Plaza + Star Fox reveal trailers

Metroid 3DS reveal trailer
Advance wars 3DS reveal trailer
F zero f2p 3DS reveal trailer

 

[AniHawk]

Gamepad-less Wii-U

or

A Wii-U bundled with Mario Kart

Something to sell Wii-Us.

gamepadless wii u can't be in the cards anymore. at least for this fiscal year. i get the feeling they'll just try and promote the platform through software and make a profit rather than cutting the gamepad from the machine and lowering the cost (which would be expensive for them).

i also think if they're doing a mario kart bundle, it'll be announced in the next week or two. the game's out in about 6 weeks.

 

[stilgar]

Something to sell Wii-Us.

You're crazay

 

[dampflokfreund]

They definately need to announce a couple of brilliant new games everyone is waiting for. Just known software+new casual software+Zelda isn'tgoing to make it.

I had a horrible nightmare today.. It was E3 and everything Nintendo showed was a QoL platform which plays various casual games and on that, Zelda.

 

[Bishop89]

na just joking lol.

I dunno, show footage of what has been announced,

-zelda and metroid reveal

- crap regarding their fitness goals

 

[elektrixx]

Their E3 conference will be at the nearest shopping mall.

I'd like a new 3DS. Mine is an RSI nightmare.

 

[Abdul Hafeez]

They could start by showing up to the show

Yeah, have they even announced if they'll have a press conference?

 

[goomba]

Nintendo mentioned they are focusing on new games which take more advantage of the gamepad.

It's really their last chance to put up or shut up.

I just hope they explain wtf their QOL platform actually is.

 

[PetrCobra]

Dunno what they will do but I know what they need to do - something that will get people excited, something that makes them think "Man, Nintendo is back".

I imagine it wouldn't hurt to show a bunch of new games. Maybe Reggie could start by saying something like "I'd like to show you some numbers now, so that you see we are actually doing quite well... but I can't - and here's one of the many reasons why", followed by a Star Fox trailer. Then a Bayonetta 2 reminder with info that the first one is coming out for Wii U as well. Then gradually build up the excitement until the last video which shows something like a new 3D Metroid, or F-Zero.

Won't happen, but the closer they can get to something like that, the better for them.

 

[Volotaire]

I'm guessing this is our E3 thread this year then, before we start hopping around again.

We already got confirmed:

-Zelda U Reveal (EAD2)
-Zelda Hyrule Warriors (Techmo)
-Smash Bros. U/3DS (Namco/Sakauri)
-X (Monolith)
-Bayonetta 2 (Platinum)
-Yarn Yoshi (hopefully the'll reveal some new info) (Good Feel)
-Bravely Default 2
-NFC games/demos (Iwata quote) 3DS/WiiU
-Unannounced 3DS Game
-Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire

To announce (probable):

-Pokemon 3DS stuff (Game Freak)
-Animal Crossing U (EAD 1) - Plaza finishes end of this year
-Metroid 3DS? (hints from Sakomoto currently signing stuff off)
-Pokemon Fighters/Wii U/ whatever that preview was last autumn/fall (Game Freak)
-EAD 4 has an unknown title after Pikmin 3 (already had delays to release)
-Miyamoto's fabled' New IP' (I have doubts on this appearing )
-Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem (Intelligent Systems)
- Grezzo (Majoras Mask 3D) (last full game 2011)
-Monster Games?

Never

-EAD1 - Mario Kart 8 just finished
-EAD 5 just completed Wii Fit U, probably too early
-EAD Tokyo New Mario Game/IP (Way too early)
-SDP 1: They finished Tamdocahi Life last year and Game and Wario (Nin US will work on translation)
-Camelot : Just finished Mario Golf 3DS
-HAL (Just finished Kirby Tripe Deluxe)
-Retro (Just finished DK TP) - But do they have another smaller team?
-Alpha Dream - Finished Dream Team last year
-Next level games - Finished Luigi Mansion 2 last year

There's more teams but I think they're the main ones.

EDIT:
Next level are working with Nintendo, but I think it's unlikely their project will turn up
QoL will probably not be shown due to target market/E3 audience, etc...... [-Nintendo's Integrated R&D - Quality of Life Related Materials]

 

[Joe_Incognito]

They'll coast on a handful of first party Wii U exclusives. Unless you're new to gaming you should know that Nintendo has been indifferent to 3rd party support since the days of the N64. They can carry a console on their own, and as long as it sells, it doesn't have to be the number one console on the market. Nintendo does what Nintendo does and everyone else be damned.

They will announce new Wii U bundles with a Mario Kart bundle being the most likely option. There will be a host of new 3DS games, enough to carry it through the holiday season.

Then they'll announce their new third pillar.

Finally a Wii U without the gamepad is never going to happen. The gamepad is the Wii U.

 

[AniHawk]

Nintendo mentioned they are focusing on new games which take more advantage of the gamepad.

It's really their last chance to put up or shut up.

I just hope they explain wtf their QOL platform actually is.

with how little time there is remaining between now and e3, i sort of get the impression they may rent someplace downtown to hold a press conference for qol. it's supposed to be out a year from this month. if they do use e3 to reveal it, i'm thinking it'll be the last thing they reveal, in part because there really can't be that many wii u games left to reveal, and to show how existing platforms will interact with whatever it is. also, like with system reveals, it should be the thing to leave a lasting impression.

i expect that no matter what it is, the response will be overwhelmingly negative from the keighleys out there. the device itself may be fine, but using the games show to showcase a more casual device/platform is probably going to be the negative takeaway ('is this nintendo admitting for good they're no longer making games?')

 

[Mushroomer25]

I think Nintendo's plan this year is pretty simple - just focus on the necessities for the WiiU, and continue to farm what works on the 3DS. We'll see Zelda for WiiU, but no demo or release date. Spring 2016 projected with an inevitable delay to the fall. Bayonetta gets a date, Smash gets Bayonetta announced as a playable, and Smash gets dates. Galaxy gets the HD treatment. X gets a big showoff. A handful of indies get WiiU presence as well.
The real business is happening on the 3DS. New Metroid. New F-Zero. More console ports (Epic Yarn, Punch-Out, Super Mario Sunshine). Major third party agreements abound, and a new remodel to boot. (3DSi?).
Finally, vague closing statements alluding to new hardware sooner rather than later.

 

[ArcaneJoker]

I honestly think Nintendo will start talking about there unified OS this E3 to give people an Idea of what they have in mind. Also we might see the next iteration of the 3ds handheld.

Hoping for Smash Limited edition systems to be announce and
Some more Zelda goodness.

My Body is Ready!!!

 

[Philippo]

I made a list of E3 predictions, i'll copy-paste the nintendo ones.

This time we'll get a proper conference which hypes the core gamers the most. 3DS is doing fine as always but it's starting to lack games, WiiU on the contrary must need some heavy 1st party/3rd party co-developed titles to stay alive. Maybe Direct to show games's demoes for those unable to be at their booth.

3DS
Price drop for both Lite and XL
New "Elite" revision for 2015 ---> (XL with two analogs, 4gb internal memory, screen resolution doubled, spring 2015)
Zelda Majora's Mask 3d ---> (so teased it's inevitable, XL special edition)
Pokémon Z ---> (usual 3rd PKMN game with improvements and new pokémon, just wonder who's gonna be on the cover since Zygarde isn't a surprise)
Smash Bros ---> (new trailer with final release date, Chrom 3ds exclusive character)
Bravely Second ---> (JP release Late 2014, first half of 2015 for the west)
Dragon Quest VII ---> (release in Fall)
Yokai Watch 1 ---> (together with anime airing announcement)
Monolith Soft 3DS game ---> (we know they've been working on it for a while, more at tgs, most surely 2015)
Metroid ---> (2d game prequel to Wii U's one)

WII U
New firmware update
Smash Bros ---> (release date announced, Shulk WiiU exclusive character)
Bayonetta 2 ---> (live demo, release date announced)
Zelda U ---> (at long last, it's every zelda hardcore fan wet dream, visual style appealing to the masses, great graphics, Spring 2015)
Metroid ---> (hardcore reboot made by Retro, 2d prequel on 3ds, 2015)
Star Fox ---> (just a teaser, made by platinum W101 team, 2015)
x ---> (full name revealed, proves itself as more than a Monster Hunter clone with proper single player storyline, Jap release date and West season)
Something by EAD ---> (title to appeal kids and families)
New Miyamoto IP ---> (a title to cater every type of gamer)
Watch_Dogs UBERDOWNGRADE EDITION ---> (watch it being even worse than PS360 with dlc timed exclusive and silly gamepad features)
Monster Hunter Online ---> (brand new title with MMORPG features, buy2play, uses some Panty Raid engine techs but very badly)
Hyrule Warriors ---> (playable demo, fall 2014)
Pokkén ---> (just a tech demo, developed by ???, no hints of release)
Yarn Yoshi ---> (2014 title)

 

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

Yeah, have they even announced if they'll have a press conference?

Not yet. If they don't by the end of the month, I think it's safe to assume they won't have a press conference.

When do they usually announce this kind of thing? We knew earlier than April last year that they weren't doing a conference, correct?

 

[AniHawk]

-Miyamoto's fabled' New IP' (I have doubts on this appearing )

if this happens, i strongly believe it'll be the platform-driver of qol-thing. it kinda fits in with everything he does becoming a video game (exploring caves! gardening! pets! weighing oneself!), and him getting older.

 

[Volotaire]

I made a list of E3 predictions, i'll copy-paste the nintendo ones.

This time we'll get a proper conference which hypes the core gamers the most. 3DS is doing fine as always but it's starting to lack games, WiiU on the contrary must need some heavy 1st party/3rd party co-developed titles to stay alive. Maybe Direct to show games's demoes for those unable to be at their booth.

3DS
Price drop for both Lite and XL
New "Elite" revision for 2015 ---> (XL with two analogs, 4gb internal memory, screen resolution doubled, spring 2015)


WII U
New firmware update

Metroid ---> (hardcore reboot made by Retro, 2d prequel on 3ds, 2015)
Star Fox ---> (just a teaser, made by platinum W101 team, 2015)

You will be ....disappointed with these.

if this happens, i strongly believe it'll be the platform-driver of qol-thing. it kinda fits in with everything he does becoming a video game (exploring caves! gardening! pets! weighing oneself!), and him getting older.

Yeh it definitely sounds like the right project for his 'creative new' team. Then again, we have no clue what on earth this product is, what it does or anything. Hopefully it's not as conceptual as I'm making it out to be.

 

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

if this happens, i strongly believe it'll be the platform-driver of qol-thing. it kinda fits in with everything he does becoming a video game (exploring caves! gardening! pets! weighing oneself!), and him getting older.

We still don't know how much the QoL thing will focus on "games." We just know it will try to make healthy lifestyles FUN!

 

[Philippo]

You will be ....disappointed with these.

No not disappointed, i just threw some ideas but all i care is Zelda U and X, the rest is extra.
For the "elite" version, i just thought that they need to keep the 3ds momentum alive, and in comparison to the DS, it still has very few revision.

As for Platinum well, 1 team is doing Bayo2, one finished MGR(maybe it's the rumored XBO exclusive) and another finished W101, and with all the speculation maybe it'll happen.

edit: and for Retro's Metroid that was just another wild guess, i actually don't know shit about that developer. Same for the price cut.

 

[E-phonk]

My safe list for Wii U & 3DS - with developers included

EAD2: Animal Crossing Wii U (2014)
EAD3: Zelda WiiU (2015)
Grezzo: Majora's Mask 3D (2014)
Tokyo1: New IP/Game announced (Q1 2015)
Tokyo2: Mario 3D World DLC (2014)
SPD: Rhythm heaven 3DS (2014)
Intelligent Systems: Fire Emblem x SMT (Q1 2015) & warioware 3DS (2014)
Creatures inc: Pokken w/ HAL & Namco 2015
Namco: Smash Brothers Wii U (2014) & 3DS (2014)
Game Freak: Pokemon Z (3DS 1014)
Next Level Games: Punch Out Wii U (Q1-Q2 2015)
Monolith: X (jap 2014, US/EU 2015)
Platinum: Bayonetta 2 (2014)
Tecmo Koei: Zelda Hyrule (2014)
Good Feel: Yarn Yoshi (2014)

Some smaller firstparty eshop titles will be presented in a reel together with quiet a number of indie projects.

Or put otherwise:
WiiU 2014
Animal Crossing Wii U
Mario 3D World DLC
Smash Brothers Wii U
Bayonetta 2
Zelda Hyrule
Yarn Yoshi

WiiU 2015
Zelda WiiU (2015)
New IP/Game announced by Tokyo 1
Fire Emblem x SMT
Pokken
Punch Out Wii U

3DS 2014
Majora's Mask 3D
Smash Brothers 3DS
Pokemon Z
Rhythm heaven 3DS
Warioware 3DS

 

[Haunted]

Two options:

a) Shenmue III WiiU exclusive, Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, mainline Zelda shown, Metroid WiiU, F-Zero WiiU, StarFox WiiU announced

b) no press conference, direct only, focus on qol (a.k.a roll over and die)


No middle ground.

Don't care about 3DS, multiplats, lacklustre third party efforts or qol, so they need to wow me with great WiiU exclusives if they want my money.

 

[Volotaire]

No not disappointed, i just threw some ideas but all i care is Zelda U and X, the rest is extra.
For the "elite" version, i just thought that they need to keep the 3ds momentum alive, and in comparison to the DS, it still has very few revision.

As for Platinum well, 1 team is doing Bayo2, one finished MGR(maybe it's the rumored XBO exclusive) and another finished W101, and with all the speculation maybe it'll happen.

edit: and for Retro's Metroid that was just another wild guess, i actually don't know shit about that developer. Same for the price cut.

Nintendo have usually announced new revisions in the past few years outside E3. The same with regards to price cuts or announcements. As well as that, the whole dual analog revision will segregate the install base (and further confuse consumers, as if the names weren't enough!). I think Platinum have probably got other games for other systems being developed, hedging bets all/majority on the Wii U would be financially silly. Announcing a 2 Metroid games for 2015 with the size of their team in the span of time they just came off with DK TF is impossible. Not to mention the other validity issues. I haven't looked at the sales figures for the 3DS in all regions, so I can't say if a price cut is likely or not, so I can't really comment on that outside the trend of past E3's.

 

[Coolwhip]

I expect more of the same. I doubt they are ready to share any drastic changes (IF ANY) with the world yet.

 

[OtaQ]

Nintendo SHOULD announce the first games for Xbox One and PS4.

What Nintendo WILL do, is announcing games which should already be out for Wii U.

 

[AniHawk]

They SHOULD announce the first games for Xbox One and PS4.

i think the ps4 and xbox one already had their first games announced. some have already been released.

 

[OtaQ]

i think the ps4 and xbox one already had their first games announced. some have already been released.

Dude, look at the thread title: "What will Nintendo do at E3 2014?"

..but don´t worry, I edited my last posting.

 

[E-phonk]

OtaQ: and it's still just as silly.

 

[AniHawk]

Dude, look at the thread title: "What will Nintendo do at E3 2014?"

..but don´t worry, I edited my last posting.

but why should nintendo announce the first games for ps4 and xbox one when those games have been out for months at this point? you're not making any sense.

 

[OtaQ]

but why should nintendo announce the first games for ps4 and xbox one when those games have been out for months at this point? you're not making any sense.

Just to make my point clear:

In my opinion, Nintendo should start making multi-plattform-titles. Titles like Zelda, F-Zero, Pilotwings, Starwing (Starfox)... so titles which should be already available on Wii U, are still missing.

And yes, I can´t see a shiny future for Nintendo if they plan to hold on to an already dead system like the Wii U is. Mario Kart 8 will be great, but it won´t save the future of Nintendo or their "next-gen"-console Wii U

...this is just my opinion.

 

[E-phonk]

Just to make my point clear:

In my opinion, Nintendo should start making multi-plattform-titles. Titles like Zelda, F-Zero, Pilotwings, Starwing (Starfox)... so titles which should be already available on Wii U, are still missing.

IF nintendo ever goes 3rd party - games like F-Zero, Pilotwings and starwing are the least likely to ever get made again, as the fanbase/sales for those games are minimal.

As a first party, those are games that you make to broaden your software library and because a small part of the fanbase will follow whatever system those are announced on.

Only sony/microsoft fans who would buy a wii/wiiU for mario & zelda ONLY would benefit from a third party nintendo.

 

[sinxtanx]

Just to make my point clear:

In my opinion, Nintendo should start making multi-plattform-titles. Titles like Zelda, F-Zero, Pilotwings, Starwing (Starfox)... so titles which should be already available on Wii U, are still missing.

And yes, I can´t see a shiny future for Nintendo if they plan to hold on to an already dead system like the Wii U is. Mario Kart 8 will be great, but it won´t save the future of Nintendo or their "next-gen"-console Wii U

...this is just my opinion.

You talk like those games can't be announced for the Wii U

 

[AniHawk]

oh okay. i mean that won't be happening because it's unrealistic and would cripple the company, but okay.

 

[onilink88]

Nintendo SHOULD announce the first games for Xbox One and PS4.

Usually, people don't emphasize the stupid part of the things they say.

 

[Deleted member 286591]

New 3DS.

Spoiler

With dual sticks.

 

[DrWong]

Nintendo SHOULD buy Sqeenix shares. For ze fun.