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I'd like to apologize beforehand for any grammar and punctuation mistakes I've made in this post, an appropriate tag for me would be Proofreaders Wanted, though that wouldn't be anywhere near as funny as my current tag.

I tried as hard as possible to make this as unpretentious as possible, I apologize for any failure to live up to this goal. Hopefully I don't make anyone who reads this embarassed. Although I could have come up with a better title. Somehow I think "I'm Leaving" doesn't quite put the message across that I'm trying to send.

I know I've never really been a quality poster on these boards though I've become somewhat well known for one of the other, not so glorious reason(s). So my importance as a poster here are slim to none. Still I've taken from and tried to give back as much as I could to a few good people people on these boards who've reached out to me in friendship, in what is turning out to be the most difficult time of my life. To these people there are no thanks in the world that can convey how much I've appreciated you, your friendship, your support, your time, and your words. All I can try and say now to these people is thank you, from the bottom of my heart, it's meant a lot to me.

I've tried to be good friends back to all of you, a set of ears for hearing what you've had to say, a brain to give any insight I could give at the time, and just good plain company.

As a poster here I've never felt as though I really even qualified to post here. I hardly ever hit the post button without fearing what the outcome might be. I know nearly everything I have to say has not got a place on this forum, and when I try to put what I have into writing it ALWAYS comes out not as my brain intended to while I was thinking it. I also ALWAYS seem completely ignorant in the majority of my posts which is embarrassing. I always wanted to be able to say SOMETHING to the people on these boards, I've just never known how. This makes nearly everything I've ever said here akin to someone sending messages in bottles from a desert island to people across an ocean. I've done my fair share to fuck up my reputation as a good poster on this forum. I tend to bring out the worst in a lot of people. I like to think I've come a long way since I first registered for these forums though.

Still regardless of all that, a lot of perfect strangers have been there to just say once or two sentences which at the time had taken an insurmountable amount of weight off of my shoulders. To those people, I have nothing but respect for you also. For those of you who've ever never had any contact in any way shape or form, I'm cool with all of you. All the users here meld together to make this place what I have come to find as the most rewarding, funniest, friendliest, and most enjoyable places on the internet. To those of you have never done nothing but walk all over me, said extremely hurtful things to me, and have had all around malicious contact with me. I only ever really hated a few of you. I'm a very easily baited person because I do take your hurtful comments seriously, and some of the stuff a few of you have to say does have an emotional affect on me. You're not the reason I'm leaving.

These past few months have been the absolute worst in my entire miserable life. With things concerning my immediate family. My dad and how he continues to fuck up everyone in my family's life. My brother who's made every day for me living in this house an uncomfortable, stressful, special kind of hell. Me being very sick for going on over a month now. My mom at the end of the rope having to deal with everyone's problems. All of this. I feel as though I'm constantly sinking deeper into depression, anxiety, frustration, anger, helplessness, hopelessness, loneliness, and worthlessness. Yes I know a lot of people think of average teenage angst, crawwwwwwwwwwwling in my skiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin and all that bullshit but I honestly feel I'm set apart from that category. All while growing ever more apathetic toward the world around me. I don't find enjoyment in anything I've had a lifelong interest in. Videogames were the first to go during the summer as things started going downhill. Then it was my friends (offline) who I've never in my life ever felt like I've shared a real bond with. I could never talk to my friends about the things that stir in my head. Music is a double edge sword. I can't listen to 10 hours straight of nonstop music anymore, but the level at which the music I listen to is able to touch me has increased as has my growing interest in learning to write my own songs and bettering myself at the guitar.

Then it's the internet. My safety net from before the last year or so. I had written out a very long explanation of this but decided not to include it in my giant wall of text.

I don't think it's beneficial for me to stick around here as a poster as I've become increasingly more apathetic toward all the things that at one time brought me joy. As pathetic as that might be. I'm sailing some rough seas and I think I need to give myself a break from this and everything that isn't absolutely necessary. At least until I feel good enough to be able to sleep at night. If and when I ever decide to come back I might and hope to be a very changed person for the better. I'm not thinking that my leaving is going to have any impact on the forum in one way or another. I don't feel as though I've ever had an impact on the forum to begin with.

Until then, thank you for the laughs, thank you for the drama (OT), thank you for the camaraderie, and thank you for your time.
 
Yowza! That's a lot of text. I had to put my glasses on to seperate the letters and lines before I had an aneurism. I've been following the threads about your brother et al, although I haven't really had anything of any worth to say in a reply that could help you. So if you've never heard from me before on it until now, that's why.

Sounds like things are more than a little crazy at your end of things. Maybe at times you've wished you were - but at least you're not a victim of Rwandan genocide, being bombed out in Iraq, or swamped in the mire of the Tsunami disaster. They're all pretty obvious extremes, but while things could obviously be a shit load better, things can always be worse. I really hope you're fortunate enough that things look up for you. All these people in your life who are affecting you so much.. they really shouldn't. It's not fair on you. But I hope you're compassionate enough to be there for people if they could use your help. I hope you and everyone involved comes off as un-scathed as is possible given the circumstance.

Well, while there are more important things than posting at a forum - remember that posting here.... as you said, you've got friends, you've got people listening. If it's at all cathartic, you should carry on posting here. Or come back if you realise it was/is.

I'm sure you're gonna get wailed on by someone in this thread. But personally, I wish ya the best of luck.

Catch ya later!
 

Diablos

Member
I don't think it's beneficial for me to stick around here as a poster as I've become increasingly more apathetic toward all the things that at one time brought me joy. As pathetic as that might be. I'm sailing some rough seas and I think I need to give myself a break from this and everything that isn't absolutely necessary. At least until I feel good enough to be able to sleep at night. If and when I ever decide to come back I might and hope to be a very changed person for the better. I'm not thinking that my leaving is going to have any impact on the forum in one way or another. I don't feel as though I've ever had an impact on the forum to begin with.

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"OK BYEBYE!"
 
Hope your life takes a turn for the better. Remember, whenever you're in trouble, just turn on that ring I sent you in the mail and point it skyward...

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Brannon

Member
The only way you can return is if you post a nondescript thread full of funny lemur pics. Otherwise, the world may colapse in on itself.

So in short, return with more lemus, and good luck.
 
:lol

I can still post in this thread!

I think I made myself out to look as though I have a feeling of self importance on accident. Which was not my intent. I just wanted to say when a problem comes along I must whip it, which this time means going a way for a while and getting out of the habit of just sitting and reading post after post for hours on end when I don't have anything else to do. I need to make stuff happen for myself.



Maybe in 4 years and 200 hamburgers.
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Loki

Count of Concision
Cyan said:
You've been infected by Loki.

There are worse things, sir. Far worse things. :D


Lemurnator-- keep your head up, and best of luck with whatever you decide to do. I'm sure it'll all work out for the best in the end, as unlikely as that may seem at the moment. :)
 
OpinionatedCyborg said:
Hope your life takes a turn for the better. Remember, whenever you're in trouble, just turn on that ring I sent you in the mail and point it skyward...

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OH SHIT.
They don't know about that here. I'm not sure they could handle that here, sensei. :eek:
 

Archaix

Drunky McMurder
Lemurnator said:
But then I would have made this thread for absolutely nothing. ;_;

And, ironically enough, making pointless threads is one way to get on the "Drinky Crow Bad List"

'Tis a shame. You're rather well stuck.
 

Firest0rm

Member
Lemurnator said:
:lol

I can still post in this thread!

I think I made myself out to look as though I have a feeling of self importance on accident. Which was not my intent. I just wanted to say when a problem comes along I must whip it, which this time means going a way for a while and getting out of the habit of just sitting and reading post after post for hours on end when I don't have anything else to do. I need to make stuff happen for myself.



Maybe in 4 years and 200 hamburgers.
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I suffer from this too so don't think your on your own. GAF is addicting, like a drug, and it does abuse you. Just learn to balance things in life. In the end thats what I believe life is about. Balance. If your life is tipped too much towards one thing then things start to fuck up. It's happened to me on a number of occasions, and currently I'm trying to fight my addiction to this forum. You have to learn to maintain balance. Whether its when you've had enough fun, when you've done enough studying or work, or how much of a role things like religion have on your life.

Sometimes, your life is tipped over by someone or something else not by yourself. You just have to bring your self back into posture. Some good advice I got from one of my prof's at University is that when you get knocked down in life, you should never stay down, get yourself back up. Even though staying down and giving up will seem like easy way out, you should pick yourself up and withstand the hardship and pull your self back together.
 
I wouldn't stay anyway. It's hard to leave being addicted and all, but I need to set myself up. It's nothing against this forum. I'm leaving because I have to try and make the best of my fucked up life, which will take a lot of my time. The reason I leave this one in particular is because I'm so addicted to it. This is where I spend most of my e-time.
 

Blackie

Member
Loki said:
There are worse things, sir. Far worse things. :D


Lemurnator-- keep your head up, and best of luck with whatever you decide to do. I'm sure it'll all work out for the best in the end, as unlikely as that may seem at the moment. :)

What this guy said.

Also GAF is so much better when you give it a few months rest.
 
No, I'd like the option of coming back eventually in hopes of things eventually calming down and getting back on track. I just need to give myself an extended break of my own free will.
 

Kuro Madoushi

Unconfirmed Member
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Hope things turn out better for you, and hope to see you back soon. Cause you're one of like...4 girls who actually posts here? :p
 

NetMapel

Guilty White Male Mods Gave Me This Tag
I feel for you that you are going through some problem in real life right now, but I personally find it a little bit funny how you take the internet a little bit too seriously. People on the internet can act like jackasses without any consequences, therefore, they will do that if they find it funny. Don't worry too much about our comments, we are all a little bit bored while browsing through GAF =P

Good luck in whatever you do in real life, I hope you will stay here because it's still a much better online community than 90% other gaming forums and whatnot. Just imagine that chaos you will get in such forums as IGN and GameFAQs... *shudders*
 
NetMapel said:
I feel for you that you are going through some problem in real life right now, but I personally find it a little bit funny how you take the internet a little bit too seriously. People on the internet can act like jackasses without any consequences, therefore, they will do that if they find it funny. Don't worry too much about our comments, we are all a little bit bored while browsing through GAF =P

It's not so much the person who's insulting me which hurts me. It's how I examine myself each time someone makes an insulting comment. Even if it's not delivered in the form of an insult. I've not got a whole lot of self esteem or confidence.

An example would be if someone here tells me I have a mustache. People here saying that are a select crowd of people, and they've not said anything for a while now. I know for a fact I don't, but I still look in the mirror after someone makes a comment on either that or how much(or how little) I weigh. Because I know that's what other people ARE thinking. What really sucks is looking into yourself and seeing for yourself the faults that others so casually throw into your face at the drop of a hat.

It's also not so much about where it was said. I think anyone who insults a person, means what they say. At least at the time they do. Knowing this is how other people see me, it brings me down.

And no Boss, I would never defect. :p
 
All the awful things that are happening in your life probably make it feel like you are pretty close to powerless right now. Just remember that, while this forum has it's share of quivering asshats, there's also a decent enough support group if you need it.

Now all you need to do is go out an purchase the album Plastic Surgery Disasters by The Dead Kennedys and get started on a punk rock band. You've got the attitude, you've got a guitar and you've got the motivation. Trust me on this. It is your duty.

Anyway, I've always thought you were a pretty humorous, sometimes thoughtful poster and you'll be missed. Hopefully we'll see you in about 30 or 40 hamburgers. :)
 

kablooey

Member
You're a smart kid Lemurs, I know you're gonna make it out of this in good standing. What doesn't kill you...:)

And yes, once you do get things straightened out, or if you feel you just need a release from the crap you're dealing with, come back here and post. You're one of the good ones. :thumbsup:
 

Loki

Count of Concision
Lemurnator said:
It's not so much the person who's insulting me which hurts me. It's how I examine myself each time someone makes an insulting comment. Even if it's not delivered in the form of an insult. I've not got a whole lot of self esteem or confidence.

An example would be if someone here tells me I have a mustache. People here saying that are a select crowd of people, and they've not said anything for a while now. I know for a fact I don't, but I still look in the mirror after someone makes a comment on either that or how much(or how little) I weigh. Because I know that's what other people ARE thinking. What really sucks is looking into yourself and seeing for yourself the faults that others so casually throw into your face at the drop of a hat.

It's also not so much about where it was said. I think anyone who insults a person, means what they say. At least at the time they do. Knowing this is how other people see me, it brings me down.

And no Boss, I would never defect.

Don't take this the wrong way, but this really highlights why young kids (< 14 years old; I imagine you've been active online for a couple of years now at least) shouldn't spend inordinate amounts of time online. The anonymity that the internet affords tends to bring out the worst in people, even if it's facetious in many cases. Given your age, you really haven't had the time to develop a healthy and proper self-concept yet, and these constant slights-- and the abrasive nature of much of internet chatter in general-- just erode whatever self-esteem and self-worth you may have gained and skews your perception of "reality" (i.e., how people interact). This is not just about you, per se-- I'm making a general point here. This is why one's teenage years are so crucial: they're incredibly formative in terms of shaping the person you'll eventually become. No other time period, save for the first five to seven years of one's life, is as important in that respect.


The internet can have a coarsening effect on people, and it takes a well-adjusted individual to learn how to tune certain things out and let things slide, secure in the knowledge of their own worth. I'm not saying that such a process happens in every instance (because that would be an exaggeration), but it does happen; your public lament is evidence of this. I'm certain that your family situation didn't do much to help your self-concept, either. It seems that you've never really learned to love and appreciate yourself; as hokey and "new agey" as that may sound, it's one of the most essential components of a healthy life.


Without making this drag on too long (which is my trademark :p), allow me to offer a convenient rule of thumb: when your experiences (in terms of how others treat you) in real life and online are incongruous, choose to infer certain things about yourself, and about life, from reality wherever possible. The internet is great for many things, such as exposing yourself to divergent viewpoints and gaining factual knowledge-- but "helping to engender a healthy self-concept" is not typically counted among these benefits. Believe me. :) If I believed what some (many? :p) people online thought about me, then I doubt I'd be able to sleep at night; fortunately, I know myself-- intimately. Go out and live life. Find out what you stand for, what you believe, what your gifts are, and what your limitations are as a person; you'll then be able to participate in a fuller manner in the online community without suffering all these ill effects.


Again, best of luck with everything. :)
 
I read every word of your epic tomes. :)

You're a very knowledgable person who has a lot to say, and knows how to say it. I don't see how people can reticule you for that. I applaud the patiance, attention to detail, and completeness of all of your posts. Thank you for your kind words, all of you. This is what makes GAF great. It has it's share of assholes, but even the assholes have their moments. Not too many people here are truely evil hearted bastards.

All you guys are the best.
 

Loki

Count of Concision
Lemurnator said:
You're a very knowledgable person who has a lot to say, and knows how to say it. I don't see how people can reticule you for that.

Oh believe me, they manage. ;) :p


But anyway, thanks for the kind words, and, again, best of luck. :)
 
Loki said:
Oh believe me, they manage. ;) :p


But anyway, thanks for the kind words, and, again, best of luck. :)

I know they do, it's just illogical... they're either lazy or envy your ability to be long winded and bori... I mean well drawn out and focused. :p

All in good fun though, and I really do appreciate all your long posts. Thank you again.
 

etiolate

Banned
Don't take this the wrong way, but this really highlights why young kids (< 14 years old; I imagine you've been active online for a couple of years now at least) shouldn't spend inordinate amounts of time online. The anonymity that the internet affords tends to bring out the worst in people, even if it's facetious in many cases.

ON THE OTHER HAND...

The internet attracts that young insecure teenage girl due to all the sort of rating sites and horny males. Lemurs has gotten more come-ons than mustache comments here. You can flash your tits on the internet for attention without the fear of instant physicality.

Basically, you can get told you're pretty on the internet a lot more often than you will in real life. As much as that anonymity allows for asshole behavior, it also allows people to say the compliments they are afraid to say in public as well. A guy might be afraid to directly say to a girl that he finds her attractive(say a female clasemate or such), but on the internet he can post "hot" within seconds of seeing a picture.
 

fart

Savant
if you really want to get out of your situation, you will stop escaping to the internet and start escaping intellectually and/or physically. the internet is not going to fix anything.

you are right to want to give this up but wrong to make such a big deal out of it (ie, i don't believe you are going to stop spending your time here).
 

Loki

Count of Concision
etiolate said:
ON THE OTHER HAND...

The internet attracts that young insecure teenage girl due to all the sort of rating sites and horny males. Lemurs has gotten more come-ons than mustache comments here. You can flash your tits on the internet for attention without the fear of instant physicality.

Basically, you can get told you're pretty on the internet a lot more often than you will in real life. As much as that anonymity allows for asshole behavior, it also allows people to say the compliments they are afraid to say in public as well. A guy might be afraid to directly say to a girl that he finds her attractive(say a female clasemate or such), but on the internet he can post "hot" within seconds of seeing a picture.

Fair enough, and true enough. There are two sides to every coin, obviously, though I would argue that in one's formative years, one is more susceptible to negative comments than positive ones; that is, they run less of a risk of becoming conceited due to compliments than they do of becoming dispirited due to ill-intentioned (joking or otherwise) remarks. And I'm sure her family situation only exacerbates that vulnerability, in that she likely did not have a solid psychological foundation to begin with.


My $.02 :)
 
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