When is work too much?

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Do you have a short term goal on how to resolve your "situation" though? Maybe put a goal to have x number of projects going and promise yourself to quit your main job when you achieve it.

Of course this would be after completing the projects that will make sure you dont burn any bridges.

Yeah there's one project we are working that if we even get one customer it's enough for us both for a year. That'd push me. We are swamped with work at the company though, and after this recent project we will decline future ones until we are done.
 
I was going to say that when you start having dreams about your work then you are working too much, but wow dude, you totally beat me


I know I'm a no-name on gaf an all, but please, please please, listen me on this:
I cannot quit my full time job right now as so much depends on me and I cannot fail these people, and I cannot close my business because I have several big name clients depending on me (and a friend, we are two at the company).

NO. You are never, never, never indebted to your work. You will be missed for a while, yes, but eventually you will be replaced. In every work you do, no matter what, you WILL be replaced. Yeah I know, I got a job where I loved the owners and they gave me so much, but in the end when I quit, you know what they did? They dealt with it and replaced me, and their place keept going even without me. I was a IT admin in a big company, was for six years, was "irreplaceable" or whatever. They depended on me. But when I quit my job? They got someone else to do my job and they are doing fine.

So no, they depend on you yes, but you should save the most of your loyalty to you, no to your employer

Now, why don't you change your full time job at your current job as a part-time/hourly basis consulting gig? I mean, you have a company, outsource your job to your company:P!
 
One thing is true is that you are always replaceable. You don't have to be so attached. So you and your friend don't want to take on more projects, but I think that your company should be your main company. Just grow it.
 
I worked Monday-Friday 40 hours a week and another job on Saturday-Sunday 24 hours for a year to pay for something. No days off.
You can do it, just use 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes in the evening to run, exercise, walk, ride a bike, etc. And eat fruit, salads, fresh veggies once a day.
Get one of those programs that reminds you to get up and stretch periodically when using a monitor.
 
It's all relative and depends on circumstances. Elon Musk is happy with 80 hours, I however often think 20 hours are more than enough. Depending on my financial needs, I often went over 40 hours in the past though.

My long term plan is to cut down to the minimum and still get enough money for living independently. At that point, I would only work more when I feel like it.

Going by your circumstances, I would recommend a sabbatical. It isn't like you don't like to work a lot, but you seem to reach a certain limit. Recharge your battery!
 
Stress doesn't actually turn your hair gray. That's a myth.

But it will make you lose it.

I cannot disagree more with the "burn through your 20s for the money" notion that seems to pop up with distressing regularity to excuse the increasingly deplorable work-life balance in white collar service industries. While you may technically be able to keep up due to your youth, it is - in many cases - not worth it.

My sense is that this phrase tends to come from those who aren't very familiar with how extraordinarily intense it can be to work in many of the "prestigious" industries that are the endgame for students who actually have a shot at cracking them (think IB, biglaw, start-ups, large corporations, etc.).

Coming from a large-cap corporate legal practice (primarily M&A, financing, and securitization), I know the toll this can take mentally, physically, and socially. It's difficult for most people to understand how soul-crushing these environments can become, particularly when you factor in superiors that are abusive at worst, apathetic at best, and the abundant sums of cash provoking pangs of guilt at every cherished thought of quitting. But know this: it is never a poor choice to take your life back.

The stress these jobs cause can be devastating to one's health - you never want to get to a point where you can't choose another path, or where all the things you would have made that choice for (health, love, family, friends) have faded from a steady buildup of time, missed calls, and cancelled plans. A lot of posters have already touched on this. Even so, OP, if you'd like more detailed advice from someone who has been down that road, do not hesitate to drop me a PM.
 
Elon Musk is happy with 80 hours

Of course he is. He's his own boss and spends his days funding new ventures and technologies. He's making shit happen. I doubt it feels anything like a job to him.
 
This thread hits close to home, as I'm going through something similar with work at the moment. I've been in IT since my early 20's. Mid 30's now and the job I'm currently in is just burning me out. I do an hour commute (each way), work 8:30 till between 6-8pm most nights, do out of hours work multiple times a week and I just feel burned out with stress.

I don't enjoy it anymore & I hardly see my kids outside of weekends.

The money is good, but what's the point when I'm literally not living a life. I get home, I watch netflix for an hour or two and I go to sleep. I feel like an automaton.

I'd like to just quit, take 6 months to get healthy and then try and do something new. Rebuild my life and myself as a person. I'm probably comfortable enough to do it as well.

I'm wrestling with these thoughts at the moment, but it's hard to break off from something you've done all your life. Work is a huge part of what currently defines me as a person. That seems pretty sad in itself.

Hope you find your way OP.
 
As others have pointed out, consider leaving your job seriously.

I know the feeling of being important to the work place. Like seriously important. Thinking the whole place would get messed up if I wasn't there.
But really, the truth is that those people would survive. They might have troubles at first, but they'd survive and get through it.

I also understand that you need to have a filled up schedule, but you could use that energy to do healthy things, like going to gym and jogging. Also, it might be good for you to just try to learn to take it slowly, make some good food for yourself and watch a movie while eating and drinking a beer.

As it is now, it really sounds like you'll burn yourself up completely. By that point it's too late. You have the power to change your life now, so take the chance when you can. You're in a fortunate position also in that you have the money to do it. Not everyone has a chance like that.
 
You need to figure out what is more important to you. For me personally I couldn't do what you are doing unless I positvely had to, way to much work and not enough me time. I also know that I will be making less than you with that attitude but I am fine with that. Would rather have fun then work my younger years away.
 
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