Red Scarlet
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Scrow said:
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When Shigeru Miyamoto dies.....
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Acknowledging his post still shows that he gets to you. Thus another mark on his wall.
Miyamoto dying?
That's bad.
But Aonuma should be alive still.
That's good!
Unless they were in the same car.
That's bad.
Though there's still the people that learned from them working there.
That's good!
Though they might be disheartened afterwards, and not put as much effort into their works.
That's bad.
Though someone could always step up and fill the gap.
That's good!
That's bad.
But Aonuma should be alive still.
That's good!
Unless they were in the same car.
That's bad.
Though there's still the people that learned from them working there.
That's good!
Though they might be disheartened afterwards, and not put as much effort into their works.
That's bad.
Though someone could always step up and fill the gap.
That's good!
Pikmindictator
Member
LALALALALALALLAAALAALALA CANT HEAR YOU!!! LALAAALALALAALALAALAAA
I predict that, in a coincidental twist of events, Miyamoto (dressed in a mushroom costume for an event he's about to speak at) will be trampled to death by a host of plumbers (also there for the event) as they hurry to get on stage for the unveiling of the full version of Mario 128.
I don't know much about Will Wright and those other guys. What have they done? Will Wright did Sim City and The Sims, correct? Did he do those other Sim games (Sim Ant, Sim Uncle, Sim Your Mama)?
I don't know much about Will Wright and those other guys. What have they done? Will Wright did Sim City and The Sims, correct? Did he do those other Sim games (Sim Ant, Sim Uncle, Sim Your Mama)?
TurtleSnatcher
Member
Nintendo has his sperm frozen and has discovered the fountain of youth so he will never die.
King Jippo
Banned
miyamoto dies, nintendo lives
Late Stage Marxist
Member
...Kutaragi will laugh maniacally.
Naked Snake
Member
I will mourn and cry, it will be a very sad day that I dread.
Long live Miyamoto!
ManaByte said:
But, with the exception of Will Wright are these people still relevant today in the way Miyamoto is? Peter Molyneux has become the joke of the games industry due to totally not delivering on all his baseless hype, ditto with Doom 3 (and Carmack was never a designer - just an engine creator), and I can't remember the last game Sid Meier made, ditto with Richard Garriott (Ultima IX?).
nah, id probably go "aww thats bad"
Nothing that will cause a passionate reaction out of me. My tears are saved for my fellow country men, friends and family. Not rich game developers
When they lower his coffin into his grave, do you think it will make the same sound that Mario does when he goes down a pipe??
Nothing that will cause a passionate reaction out of me. My tears are saved for my fellow country men, friends and family. Not rich game developers
When they lower his coffin into his grave, do you think it will make the same sound that Mario does when he goes down a pipe??
monchi-kun
Member
I think we're the last to actually care or even know who are the iconic game designers are. the "nu-generation" of gamers (courtesy of the Playstation era) probably couldn't name a single designer to save their lives.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
Gah!
This topic is annoying. Not so much the topic itself, but each time I click on the main GAF forum page, all I see is "Miyamoto dies...", followed by a quick double-take.
Gah!
This topic is annoying. Not so much the topic itself, but each time I click on the main GAF forum page, all I see is "Miyamoto dies...", followed by a quick double-take.
Gah!
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
Seriously! Stop bumping this thread you bitches!!!SonicMegaDrive said:
...Oh wait...
monchi-kun
Member
Dr_Cogent said:
then plan a trip to one of the many Soaplands in Tokyo...i'm sure that should make it worthwhile
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I'll be more upset when Ralph Baer or Nolan Bushnell die.
What's that you say? Neither has done anything for gaming lately? True-- but same is true of Shiggy.
What's that you say? Neither has done anything for gaming lately? True-- but same is true of Shiggy.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Dr_Cogent said:
I mean his involvement is neither as clear as it was, nor has it as much impact.
Shiggy stopped being a big deal in gaming when he stopped designing and started producing a million things at once, IMHO.
Ignatz Mouse said:
Ralph made a failed video game system and Nolan started a company with an idea he ripped off from Baer -- then proceeded to sell it out as it ran into the ground.
Yes, they were innovators and fairly nice people, and video gaming wouldn't have arrived as early as it did without them, but...well... they are more the hardware people than the software people. We all like Gutenburg for his work on the printing press, but we care more for the guys who wrote the books.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
DavidDayton said:
Between the two of them, they created home and arcade gaming. That counts for something. Bushnell may have abandoned Atari, but that was 10 years after establishing videogames as a business. He sold it long before it ran into the ground. And then he went on to found one of the most successful arcade chains.
Yes, they are hardware guys, but their impact was huge. Miyamoto's impact is huge, too, but less so than these guys, unless you limit the dicsussion to software or mascots.
Ignatz Mouse said:
Oh, it counts for something, but Miyamoto's games are better than anything Baer or Bushnell came up with or were directly responsible for. I'm not saying they aren't important, I'm just trying to explain why hardly anyone really cares about them.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Miyamoto is beloved becuase hsi games come with a cute mascot attached. It's not a matter of influence as much as it is attachment.
EDIT: Are you saying that Shig's games are better than all of coin-ops? becuase Bushnell came up with the idea of coin-operated videogames. You're making a comparison between apples and fruit. Different classes. Nobody is saying Bushnell was a great game designer. I'm saying I'll care more about his passing than Shigs.
EDIT: Are you saying that Shig's games are better than all of coin-ops? becuase Bushnell came up with the idea of coin-operated videogames. You're making a comparison between apples and fruit. Different classes. Nobody is saying Bushnell was a great game designer. I'm saying I'll care more about his passing than Shigs.
SiegfriedFM
Member
What about Okamoto, Mizuguchi, Rubin, Nomura, Itagaki or Suzuki? Heck, Ueda. There are plenty of fairly new game creators (well, newer than the mentioned old-boys) who could turn out to be icons eventually.
It's like this in all businesses. It seems like every major movie star is 50+ and about to fall apart at any time (if it wasn't for extensive surgery), like Nicholson, Willis, even Cruise, but there are also younger ones who will probably become huge eventually.
It's like this in all businesses. It seems like every major movie star is 50+ and about to fall apart at any time (if it wasn't for extensive surgery), like Nicholson, Willis, even Cruise, but there are also younger ones who will probably become huge eventually.
MaestroRyan said:
There are many (largely older) people out there who do most of their gaming on computers, prefer sims, strategy titles, and RPG's to action games, and couldn't give two shits about Mario, Zelda, or even the great Miyamoto himself (who may arguably be the 'God of Console Gaming', but there's more to gaming than just consoles.) They'd tell you that Miyamoto's just some guy who came up with some platformers and simple action-RPG's, and that sure, maybe he has talent, but nothing he's ever done has a patch on stuff like the Civ games or the genius of something like the Sims. That's because they don't care about the kinds of games he creates, just as it seems that you don't care about the kinds of games Will Wright and Sid Meier have brought us. That doesn't make them or their games any less significant, even if you're too blind (or too biased) to see it.
Sid Meier and Will Wright are every inch the 'gods of gaming' that Miyamoto is. If you can't acknowledge that, you're the 'fucktard' here.
Ignatz Mouse said:
A few points...
1) I'd argue that Donkey Kong and Mario Bros. are better coin ops than any coin-op Bushnell himself created. Maybe I'm forgetting a game -- that's possible.
2) Baer was, for all extents an purposes, a blip on the radar of video games -- and that's a sad thing. However, he WAS the primary influence for video games, in as much as Bushnell (supposedly) stole the idea directly from a Magnavox demo at a trade show.
3) Bushnell is responsible for the massive explosion of video gaming -- there's no doubt about that. If I said anything to imply otherwise, I'm an idiot. However, his actual video game contributions (the games themselves) are rather forgotten at this point.
4) Miyamoto's games (and the games later developed by teams he led) were directly responsible for the rebirth of console gaming in the USA (would it have returned otherwise? Probably... but it didn't). The SMB and Zelda series are seen by the majority of the gaming community as great titles. Miyamoto's games are held in much higher regard than anything by Bushnell or Baer by the public and gaming community at large.
5) Given the general love for Miyamoto's work and the general passivity towards Bushnell and Baer's, Miyamoto's death will have more attention and interest paid to it.
Are you wrong to care more about Bushnell than Miyamoto? No. We're all allowed to care about individuals as we wish. However, I'd say that the vast majority of the gaming public and development community would care more about Miyamoto than Bushnell or Baer.
ForzaItalia
Banned
monchi-kun said:
His best days are clearly behind him as it is. He sort of reminds me of that athelete we've all loved that has hung on a bit too long....like that homerun slugger we all loved but now can barely catch up to the fastball. The game has passed him by and he has nary a clue that it has done so.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
DD: I think we've reached an understanding. For the record, I don't think Bushnell designed *any* videogames. I was making the comparison to *all* coin-ops, which I think he's responsible for. It's hard to know if we would have had coin-ops or not, or if videogames would have been strictly a home phenomenon without him. I think there would have been-- but it's not a given.
Naked Snake
Member
Stinkles said:
Virgins, virgins.