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Who's the most incompetent 80's cartoon villain?

Zubz

Banned
But Raditz managed to kill Goku. The original villains I think all managed to get something up on Goku too. Pilaf is the hardest for me to remember, but I think he was the most incompetent.

Raditz didn't kill him, though, he just happened to hold Goku down while pre-face turn Piccolo killed them both in one go. That way, he stopped Raditz immediately & avenged his dad in one go.

IIRC I've been told Pilaf was the most incompetent, but I don't know enough about DB to feel confident. I mean, Chiaotzu started off as a DB villain. Oolong started off as a DB villain. Yamcha started off as a DB villain,
 

Mister Wolf

Member
Shredder with Bebop and Rock Steady. A true clown with his flunkies. They even lowered Krang's intelligence being around them.

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Cobra Commander in the comics often wins, in the more current remake series, CC is almost always one step ahead of the GI Joes despite their victories, CC comes out often ahead cause he's a grand planner.

Wut? I missed this?

Yea those in Cobra realized that Serpentor was crazy after the events of the movie, so they brought back Cobra Commander, turning him back to human and helped get rid of Serpentor writing him out of the series essentially.
 

Wood Man

Member
Cobra Commander. The guy was so incompetent that it was kinda the whole point of the movie.

With that said I love Cobra Commander.
 

Blues1990

Member
Just imagining Venger as part of an actual D&D campaign cracks me up.

In the DVD collection, it included a booklet that has character stats, bosses, and all the rules for a campaign for the characters from the show. They even included stats for Venger as an enemy encounter.
 

FStubbs

Member
Serpentor

He was supposed to be superior to Cobra Commander but he was an even bigger fuck up.

I thought Serpentor was cool as a kid. As an adult I realize how crappy he was. He kept Cobra Commander around so he'd have someone to blame when he screwed up.

Starscream is useful so Megatron kept him around.

Gargamel failed because he couldn't decide if he wanted to eat the smurfs, turn them into gold, or simply destroy them. But at the same time, Papa Smurf had superior magic and IIRC Hefty Smurf was physically stronger than Gargamel despite the size difference, so Gargamel really only had the element of surprise in his favor.

'80s Shredder was pretty incompetent. It took the Turtles 4 episodes or so to understand what he was about, and then after that,despite all of his advantages, they pwned him. Thing is, Krang was just as bad. To be fair, the turtles are ninjas and have Donatello so losing to them isn't terrible.

Dr Claw is pretty bad not being able to stop a girl and her dog, but up there with him would be Duke Igthorn, who despite his skill with the sword and an army of ogres can't stop bouncing teddy bears.
 

Lagamorph

Member
Does Magneto count since he still persisted through to the 80's?

He got beaten by a wooden gun then was so screwed he forgot police cars were made of metal and just allowed the police to arrest him and take him away.
 

StayDead

Member
Dick Dastardly by far

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What's really lame about him is that he keeps almost winning the races on genuine merit alone, but then insists on cheating just to make sure and then it backfires and he loses.

With how long people take to catch up with him while he puts his traps up, he'd win every single race if he didn't stop.
 

L Thammy

Member
Raditz didn't kill him, though, he just happened to hold Goku down while pre-face turn Piccolo killed them both in one go. That way, he stopped Raditz immediately & avenged his dad in one go.

IIRC I've been told Pilaf was the most incompetent, but I don't know enough about DB to feel confident. I mean, Chiaotzu started off as a DB villain. Oolong started off as a DB villain. Yamcha started off as a DB villain,

Pilaf was stupid, but he very nearly won. He got the Dragonballs and was about to say his wish. Literally seconds at most from victory.

On top of that, if Goku didn't turn into an Oozaru at the full moon - which absolutely no living person on Earth was aware of, not even Goku - him and his friends would have died at sunup.

He became a total joke after his own arc, but that's also because he had dwindling resources and Goku had only gotten stronger.

Raditz was hardly incompetent either. He was stronger than everyone on Earth, and could dodge Piccolo's ultimate technique that moved at the speed of light. Beating him required Gohan to get enraged and weaken him significantly (which nobody knew could happen), exposing a known weakpoint (admittedly Raditz could have trained his tail as the rest of the Saiyans did), Goku to sacrifice himself, and Piccolo to use a special technique that punches way above his belt (and which Raditz had previously dodged).
 

Xero

Member
Megatron.

Starscream is actively planning to usurp you and tells you constantly to your face. WHY IS STILL AROUND, MUCH LESS YOUR 2ND IN COMMAND

Megatron keeps starscream around because he knows star scream wont let anyone else take out megatron but himself. Starscream will stop any other attempts are usurping megatron just so that he can do it. That way Megatron always knows where the threat is coming from.
 

Pilgrimzero

Member
It's Shedder. Dude thought it was better to kill his entire ninja clan and replace them with stiff stupid robots.

He defeated himself before he even begun.
 

Rutti

Member
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Dude gets his skyscraper destroyed every episode. Many times it's his or his followers fault.

Edit: Damn this show ran in the 90s. My bad!
 
Gargumel was pretty much the ultimate "comic villain", constantly foiled by a bunch of small blue creatures.

Darkseid in Super Friends: The Legendary Super Powers Show. He always lost to the lamest incarnation of the Justice League of America aka the Super Friends.

Darkseid at least had Desaad and Kallibak screwing things up, plus Darkseid did get up the upper-hands a few times mostly as far as the animators and writers could have gone by 80's Saturday morning rules anyway.
 

Lurch666

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I've got to go with the Hooded Claw.
Captures Penelope Pitstop every time but then uses a dumb ass slow way of killing her so never succeeds.
 

Cheerilee

Member
Cobra Commander. The guy was so incompetent that it was kinda the whole point of the movie.

With that said I love Cobra Commander.

Cobra-la was a race of super-humans who once ruled the world, but they retreated to hide from the ice age. By the time they decided to emerge, humans had developed spears and arrows, so the cowards decided to stay hidden.

Cobra Commander was a weak runt by their standards, but he survived due to his intellect. They put him to work in bioweapons, and a mishap ruined his face. His people "rewarded him" by giving him the job of "Go conquer humanity", but that was more likely just a pretense for his banishment into the icy wasteland.

Using nothing more than his mind and his charisma and his leadership, Cobra Commander created a military organization capable of ruling the world, and very nearly accomplished that goal on dozens of occasions, but yeah, he never quite managed to stick the landing.

Then his organization turned against him, crediting themselves for their victories and him for their failures, although they recognized that none of them could step up and replace him, so they decided to create a superhuman to replace Cobra Commander (retconned by the movie to suggest that the coup was initiated by Cobra-la, who wanted to seize control over the impressive military organization Cobra Commander created).

In his own self defense, Cobra Commander screwed Serpentor, sticking him with the mind of a pro wrestler rather than the greatest strategic mind in human history. And then he secured his #2 position by telling Serpentor outright that he would need a scapegoat, someone to blame for his many, many failures (of which there were easily as many as Cobra experienced under Cobra Commander).

After Cobra-la/Serpentor led Cobra on a failed mission against GI Joe, Cobra Commander saved his forces by moving them into range of Cobra-la, an action which he knew to be not in his own personal interest (he was personally terrified of Cobra-la, but he brought Cobra there anyways, to save them from a crushing defeat that was not of his making).

Cobra-la, playing up their role as the true head of Cobra, put Cobra Commander on a sham trial, groundlessly accusing him of incompetence, and then slowly and cruelly stripped him of his mind and his humanity. But Cobra Commander had the last laugh, because he betrayed the bastards and provided vital intel to GI Joe, allowing GI Joe to destroy Cobra-la.

And then at the start of the next season, he recovered from being turned into a mindless animal (his people realized that they were lost without him) and he got his revenge against Serpentor, turning him into a mindless animal, and regained control over what was left of his organization.

An episode of Transformers revealed that the organization called Cobra did eventually fade away, but Cobra Commander lived on to old age, and in retirement he successfully tangled with the Autobots and got away clean, while he has a low opinion of the quality of so-called "terrorists" these days.
 

Akuun

Looking for meaning in GAF
Does Wile E. Coyote count? Was he from the 80s?

The dude failed every time, and it was almost always 100% his own fault.
 
Cobra-la was a race of super-humans who once ruled the world, but they retreated to hide from the ice age. By the time they decided to emerge, humans had developed spears and arrows, so the cowards decided to stay hidden.

Cobra Commander was a weak runt by their standards, but he survived due to his intellect. They put him to work in bioweapons, and a mishap ruined his face. His people "rewarded him" by giving him the job of "Go conquer humanity", but that was more likely just a pretense for his banishment into the icy wasteland.

Using nothing more than his mind and his charisma and his leadership, Cobra Commander created a military organization capable of ruling the world, and very nearly accomplished that goal on dozens of occasions, but yeah, he never quite managed to stick the landing.

Then his organization turned against him, crediting themselves for their victories and him for their failures, although they recognized that none of them could step up and replace him, so they decided to create a superhuman to replace Cobra Commander (retconned by the movie to suggest that the coup was initiated by Cobra-la, who wanted to seize control over the impressive military organization Cobra Commander created).

In his own self defense, Cobra Commander screwed Serpentor, sticking him with the mind of a pro wrestler rather than the greatest strategic mind in human history. And then he secured his #2 position by telling Serpentor outright that he would need a scapegoat, someone to blame for his many, many failures (of which there were easily as many as Cobra experienced under Cobra Commander).

After Cobra-la/Serpentor led Cobra on a failed mission against GI Joe, Cobra Commander saved his forces by moving them into range of Cobra-la, an action which he knew to be not in his own personal interest (he was personally terrified of Cobra-la, but he brought Cobra there anyways, to save them from a crushing defeat that was not of his making).

Cobra-la, playing up their role as the true head of Cobra, put Cobra Commander on a sham trial, groundlessly accusing him of incompetence, and then slowly and cruelly stripped him of his mind and his humanity. But Cobra Commander had the last laugh, because he betrayed the bastards and provided vital intel to GI Joe, allowing GI Joe to destroy Cobra-la.

And then at the start of the next season, he recovered from being turned into a mindless animal (his people realized that they were lost without him) and he got his revenge against Serpentor, turning him into a mindless animal, and regained control over what was left of his organization.

An episode of Transformers revealed that the organization called Cobra did eventually fade away, but Cobra Commander lived on to old age, and in retirement he successfully tangled with the Autobots and got away clean, while he has a low opinion of the quality of so-called "terrorists" these days.

Cheerilee you're the best.

The real answer to this thread is

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Starscream.
 
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