Why are you not willing to donate your organs?

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I recently read an article that a province here in Canada is considering to reverse the condition of organ donation where it's presumed you're an organ donor unless you opt out, instead of the current opt in program that's common around most of the world (or at least Canada and the US, not sure about EU).

And so I want to ask everyone who doesn't want to donate your organs - why is that?

Do you believe in the chance of a Vanilla Sky cryogenics before you die? If so, why wouldn't you just change to opting out when you sign up for that program?

Is there some religious reason?

Only reason I haven't was due to forgetting to register every time I think about it, so I would definitely support presuming organ donor. I've added in my to do list to register though.
 
This is how it should be. Opt out instead of opt in. Totally for it.


Also did I just get spoiled on the Tom Cruise movie vanilla sky?
 
Probably people being scared that a hospital might not try so hard to keep them alive if they're running short on organs.

Personally I'm just lazy
 
There was a thread about this before and I remember someone arguing that they don't trust the system in giving their organs to people in need. They went on about how some local hospital was selling them or something. In my opinion it was a stupid reasoning, especially as it appeared to be based on the action of a single hospital.

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Sir_Crocodile said:
Probably people being scared that a hospital might not try so hard to keep them alive if they're running short on organs.
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I've also heard people argue this, which I find equally as ignorant. They act like doctor's jobs aren't to save people first.
 
NoblesseOblige said:
There was a thread about this before and I remember someone arguing that they don't trust the system in giving their organs to people who need. They went on about how some local hospital was selling them or something. In my opinion it was a stupid reasoning, especially as it appeared to be based on the action of a single hospital.
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What would that matter though? Even if they were being the sold, the alternative is them just not being used at all. How is that better? (I know I'm not arguing against you but the people you're talking about).
 
Not only am I registered as an organ donor, I'm also registered with a local university to donate my body to science after I pass away. That way, when I die, my family has no financial burden regarding my burial or cremation or whatever, and I get to live knowing my death can do some good in this world.

Fox Mulder said:
Have heard people say that the hospital would let them die so a kid or Dick Cheney could get their organs.
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yeah that's stupid. The people working on you in the ER have no fucking clue whether or not you're an organ donor or not. The people tasked with saving your life would have no knowledge of this to take advantage of the situation.

Plus, their minds are preoccupied on saving your life for them to be thinking about where your organs are going. And, on top of that, those people have no idea where your organs would go. It's not like the person working on you is going to say "stop, cut this dude open and give his heart to the child down the hall."
 
Sir_Crocodile said:
Probably people being scared that a hospital might not try so hard to keep them alive if they're running short on organs.

Personally I'm just lazy
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I hear people argue this all the time still, and even had a friend who works in a doctor's office say this (she isn't a nurse mind, but she is around medical professionals all day).

I'm registered.
 
Fox Mulder said:
Have heard people say that the hospital would let them die so a kid or Dick Cheney could get their organs.
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If that persons faith in doctors is that low already, why wouldn't they think those doctors wouldn't steal their organs without permission when they die?

I am all for the opt out method. A lot of people probably just forget to fill the form in or push it back until later, while they wouldn't have any problems with giving them away if they died.
 
Krejlooc said:
Not only am I registered as an organ donor, I'm also registered with a local university to donate my body to science after I pass away. That way, when I die, my family has no financial burden regarding my burial or cremation or whatever, and I get to live knowing my death can do some good in this world.
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A med student is gonna hide someones final year coursework in your cadaver
 
Krejlooc said:
Not only am I registered as an organ donor, I'm also registered with a local university to donate my body to science after I pass away. That way, when I die, my family has no financial burden regarding my burial or cremation or whatever, and I get to live knowing my death can do some good in this world.
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Smart choice, funerals are expensive
 
Krejlooc said:
Not only am I registered as an organ donor, I'm also registered with a local university to donate my body to science after I pass away. That way, when I die, my family has no financial burden regarding my burial or cremation or whatever, and I get to live knowing my death can do some good in this world.
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I like the idea of medical donation in theory but I really don't like the thought of medical students poking me and using me for pranks/carpooling.

They can dig up graves like the old days if they need a carpool buddy.

Sir_Crocodile said:
A med student is gonna hide someones final year coursework in your cadaver
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Exactly :(
 
Because I'm donating my autistic brain to science. I also don't feel most people deserve my organs, only people close to me.
 
Tabris said:
What would that matter though? Even if they were being the sold, the alternative is them just not being used at all. How is that better? (I know I'm not arguing against you but the people you're talking about).
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No clue. I'm personally registered to donate my organs, then my remaining body to science. I'm actually planning on being a living donor (liver) once I'm in a better place financially to where I can take the necessary time off for recovery.
 
MikeDip said:
I like the idea of medical donation in theory but I really don't like the thought of medical students poking me and using me for pranks/carpooling.
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My body might not necessarily be used by medical students like that. My hope, actually, is that I die in a way such that they can do that process where they slice your body up into thin pieces using lasers which scan as they do so, so they can reconstruct your entire body in a computer, so that I might become a VR training dummy in the future.

But I obviously have no say in the matter.
 
Tabris said:
What would that matter though? Even if they were being the sold, the alternative is them just not being used at all. How is that better? (I know I'm not arguing against you but the people you're talking about).
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I understand the scepticism when you read stories about the wrong people getting organs, like that kid who got a heart transplant and then kept stealing cars or shooting people or some shit. Or this fucking guy, using up six hearts (because he's got money, let's be honest), when he should have just given up by now.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/david-rockefellers-sixth-heart-transplant-successful-at-age-99/

I'm a donor myself, just playing devil's advocate. I do get people's criticism when shit like this happens.
 
spons said:
Because I'm donating my autistic brain to science. I also don't feel most people deserve my organs, only people close to me.
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dalin80 said:
Until I can choose who gets my organs I will be keeping them to myself thanks.
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Why would it matter who gets them? You are dead. You can't decide anymore. Unless at that specific moment someone on your list of approved persons needs them, they will be useless.

Would you reject an organ donor from a stranger if you ever needed one?

This seems very, very selfish. If you have some objection to organ donation because of your beliefs or whatever, that is fine. But to literally say some people aren't worthy of your organs is just wrong.
 
spons said:
Because I'm donating my autistic brain to science. I also don't feel most people deserve my organs, only people close to me.
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I know the first sentence most likely caused the second sentence, so I have to put perspective to it, but still, you're dead - you aren't able to know who gets what organs then - and there's usually no way to time with when the people are close to you as organs need to be harvested and transplanted "fresh" upon death.
 
spons said:
Because I'm donating my autistic brain to science
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Are you? Just so you know, loudly announcing this doesn't ensure your body is going to science. You need to actually contact and talk to some universities or hospitals. And, depending on who you are making an agreement with, they might have stipulations on how you die.

If you're interested in doing this, your first step should be to contact some local universities in your area inquiring about this. They can put you in contact with the right people.
 
spons said:
Yes, but that's their choice. I wouldn't want to give my organs to anybody except my friends and parents.
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Pretend the choice isn't one or the other. It's not your mom or a stranger. It's a stranger vs letting it rot.

Why let it rot.
 
spons said:
Yes, but that's their choice. I wouldn't want to give my organs to anybody except my friends and parents.
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So you're alright with people dying who your organs can save because they're not your friend or family? That's cold but at least we know your heart wasn't any good anyway.
 
As someone who needs a kidney transplant I can 100% vouch for the fact that there is a tremendous need so please consider organ donation as it can increase the quality of life for so many people.
 
Sir_Crocodile said:
A med student is gonna hide someones final year coursework in your cadaver
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Even if someone did that, who cares? I'm dead. They're doing me and my family a favor by absolving us of the ridiculous price of death.

it's fucked up that it can cost $50k-$100k for someone to die thanks to funeral arrangements.
 
spons said:
Yes, but that's their choice. I wouldn't want to give my organs to anybody except my friends and parents.
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It is also your choice to accept it or not, isn't it? So what makes you worthy of a strangers organ donation and him not of receiving yours? That's just wrong.
 
NoblesseOblige said:
No clue. I'm personally registered to donate my organs, then my remaining body to science. I'm actually planning on being a living donor (liver) once I'm in a better place financially to where I can take the necessary time off for recovery.
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While I don't understand anyone's hesitation around organ donation upon death, the bolded is extremely brave. Bravo (or Brava).
 
I don't think you even have to register in Canada anymore. if you tell a family member or spouse that you intend to be an organ doner, that's enough.

although that might only be Ontario, not sure.

probably best to not be lazy though.

beadonor.ca
 
NoblesseOblige said:
So you're alright with people dying who your organs can save because they're not your friend or family? That's cold but at least we know your heart wasn't any good anyway.
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Based on the first sentence of his post, you can understand his seemingly lack of empathy to strangers. So not fair to say he has no heart, his brain just perceives things differently.
 
Littlebigbenny said:
Honestly, I just don't care that much.
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This is why the opt out system is so much better. We can capture the lazy and uncaring organs. (Not caring is a valid option, but if you don't care we should take them)
 
Krejlooc said:
Are you? Just so you know, loudly announcing this doesn't ensure your body is going to science. You need to actually contact and talk to some universities or hospitals. And, depending on who you are making an agreement with, they might have stipulations on how you die.

If you're interested in doing this, your first step should be to contact some local universities in your area inquiring about this. They can put you in contact with the right people.
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I'm doing it through the NBB, I feel it's a good way to do so. They specifically require people with brain disorders.

The problem is that a lot of people with disorders cannot consent. I can and I feel like I can help doing so.
 
I opted in, so I can have a cool heart icon on my license. Also someone will get to have my organs, so it's win win.
 
spons said:
I'm doing it through the NBB, I feel it's a good way to do so. They specifically require people with brain disorders.

The problem is that a lot of people with disorders cannot consent. I can and I feel like I can help doing so.
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Good on you, just making sure you'd actually done some legwork to ensure it happens. I have heard of people announcing an intent to donate their body to science before without knowing they had to set things up first.
 
I'd also be okay with allowing medical professionals to legally be able to dig up graves
 
Donating your body to investigation is a very interesting thing. You're like choosing to contribute to the world after you're no longer alive to see it.
 
MikeDip said:
I'd also be okay with allowing medical professionals to legally be able to dig up graves
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by the time someone is in a grave, their organs are useless. And decomposition would ensure that there isn't too many tremendous uses for science, outside of practice for cutting up a body.
 
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