family_guy
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On a side note, I find Sony's key entry implementation to be better than MS's or Nintendo's by far. I'm actually surprised how well they did it.
Why can't I enter my credit card info without a WiiU gamepad?
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The Wii U did not start out that way. It was forced upon them from customers.
I have no used the ps4 key entry but better than the gamepad?
BeatResetsTheWorld
Banned
I'm going to call bullshit on that. I very much doubt any sort of key entry that involves moving towards the letters with a stick/pad is batter than any on screen touch keyboard
Sorry for the derail, but is this really a thing? Have they explained why? Are they rolling out this feature slowly? Why? What? This is baffling to me.
I have the same problem as the OP. Does anyone know if it is possible to add value to my account using a Prepaid Card and then enter the numbers with the Controller, or is it Gamepad only as well?
I only have money to spend EUR 15 this week and if I buy a new Gamepad adapter I can't buy the Prime Trilogy for the discounted price. Please help.
I only have money to spend EUR 15 this week and if I buy a new Gamepad adapter I can't buy the Prime Trilogy for the discounted price. Please help.
tim_pkmn89
Member
The real answer? Security so only Player 1 can handle those menus, and without others noticing his CC number.
OverBlood 3
Banned
The Wii U gamepad isn't an optional thing it's essentially part of the console.
Leafhopper
Banned
Don't bother trying to explain it. People don't get it.
JediLink
Member
Inb4 people defending Nintendo inanity
This isn't the first time this kind of issue has been brought up. Unfortunately Nintendo having their heads in their asses is an ongoing problem and has been for a very long time.
Ah, well never mind.
This isn't the first time this kind of issue has been brought up. Unfortunately Nintendo having their heads in their asses is an ongoing problem and has been for a very long time.
Please anyone... I need help with my question. I am beggging you
Is it possible to buy stuff on the EShop using a Web Browser?
Annoying Old Party Man
Member
My god Nintendo, why did you do this, WHYYYYYYYY.
No, I mean, it is kind of a thing, but thread worthy it is not.
No, I mean, it is kind of a thing, but thread worthy it is not.
……forgetit
Member
Not sure if you guys realize it but Nintendo didn't cut support, initially it worked with the gamepad and they had to retroactively add support for other controllers because people wanted to use them. Initially they assumed everyone would use the gamepad, they were wrong, but it's completely understandable.
pinkurocket
Member
Having to use the main controller of a console which has a touchscreen to input text? Boohoo.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
If my Gamepad breaks, I shouldn't have to buy a new one for system functions that shouldn't require it in the first place.
Furthermore, it's extremely irritating to have to use it for the most mundane functions. When I haul my Wii U to a Smash Bros tournament, a situation in which no one uses the Gamepad to actually play games, I have to also bring the Gamepad anyway just in case I need to change resolutions or audio output settings in the system menu for the sake of the livestream station's needs. And then I have to turn off and store away the Gamepad in a safe place to keep anyone from stealing it or accidentally inputting any commands that would throw off a game in progress, but that's no simple feat because turning off the Gamepad also always turns off the console. So I have to walk a far enough distance away from the console so that the pad and console desync, and only then can I safely turn the damn thing off. There's no good reason why I shouldn't just be able to leave the thing at home in the first place.
I love off-TV play, but Nintendo's hardware design is full of ass-backward inconveniences that literally don't have to exist.
Stilton Disco
Member
Please anyone... I need help with my question. I am beggging you
Yep, I put £15 on last week with the Pro Controller because the Gamepad's battery apparently died immediately after turning the WiiU on.
The eshop actually works perfectly fine with the Pro Controller, since I generally never use the gods awful Gamepad if I can help it.
Really the entire console is just dog shit design wise. Incredibly poorly thought out, irritating and counter intuitive to navigate, and just a decade behind what it should be on both the software and hardware front.
I mean I love the games, don't get me wrong, but no wonder hardly anyone wants the bloody thing. It's just an over priced mess, and I say that as someone who paid £130 for it.
Sounds to me like you're being stubborn and refusing to use the intended controller for the system.
Leafhopper
Banned
I am not defending it. Trust me I get you it is an ass backwards design, especially for a game console, so I won't make some dumb analog like "Well you need gas for your car!" I just was saying that it's the way they made the thing. Honestly Nintendo, even if it would cost a good amount, a game pad replacement, at least one since it's so essential.
……forgetit
Member
I'm not defending how long it's taking them to 100% fix the issue, I'm just saying as an engineering student and a software developer it totally makes sense how it happened.
Because the other controller the OP is trying to use is also a system controller?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I can use a Sega Saturn controller to change my Xbox 360's display settings. And I frequently do this, because I hardly play anything on the 360 except UMvC3, and I prefer using the Saturn controller for that game. My actual 360 controller hasn't been touched in probably a year, and if it broke, I wouldn't be forced to hunt down a replacement.
……forgetit
Member
Well technically it's a peripheral, the gamepad is the main controller.
Stilton Disco
Member
It's uncomfortable to hold for some people, myself included, bulky, heavy, cheap feeling, with a terrible low res, single resistive touchscreen, that you need to jab with your nail if you don't want to have to use the stylus like it's 2005, and has a battery that doesn't last as long as the average fart.
If I could just use the incredibly comfortable, solidly well built but light weight Pro Controller, that lasts me a week or two between charges, for everything, I would, and I know I'm not the only one.
And you so nearly can, it's just every so often you'll get halfway through a menu or process that let's you start off and finish with the Pro, only to decide a single step needs the Gamepad when the near identical prior step didn't, and there's no rhyme or reason as to why or when these roadblocks will be tossed in front of you.
If you could only use the Gamepad for everything but games, that would be one thing, but to let you use something else for most things, but not everything, that's just incredibly annoying, and yet more terrible design decisions.
I find the controllers to be a real headache on the Wii U. I actually prefer the console without the gamepad, instead just using the Pro controller where possible. I respect games that do not require the Gamepad at all, such as Sm4sh. If I remember correctly, you cannot proceed past the start menu in Nes Remix without the gamepad, which is insane.
……forgetit
Member
When it launched you were pretty much locked to the gamepad for everything, over time they've added more functionality to the pro controller.
Man, the lengths people will go to defend Nintendo is absurd.
As was mentioned in the last thread like this we had, you could use any plastic guitar, drum, turntable, hand wand controller on PS3/360 and have total, 100% functionality in any and every menu and UI.
The fact WiiU doesn't have the same kind of support for a first party controller that is basically feature identical to the gamepad is absurd.
Edit: Like, really. All the OP wants is for the gamepad screen to display on the main monitor/TV and people are saying this is too programming or time sensitive for Nintendo to deal with? Please.
As was mentioned in the last thread like this we had, you could use any plastic guitar, drum, turntable, hand wand controller on PS3/360 and have total, 100% functionality in any and every menu and UI.
The fact WiiU doesn't have the same kind of support for a first party controller that is basically feature identical to the gamepad is absurd.
Edit: Like, really. All the OP wants is for the gamepad screen to display on the main monitor/TV and people are saying this is too programming or time sensitive for Nintendo to deal with? Please.
can you go into more detail on this? I always see it brought up and I think the Wii U's OS is extremely intuitive to navigate. almost everything you could ever want to do on the console is a single tap away and easy to understand. in my experience the Wii U is the console that requires the least amount of inputs to get to where you want. occasionally there will be an extra input here or there to get into a folder or scroll to the next page but that's really it. want to use the internet browser? click the icon. want to play Smash? click the icon. Miiverse? click the icon. eshop? icon. daily log? icon. it doesn't get much more intuitive than that in my opinion.
how much do you game per week man? you might have gotten a faulty Pro Controller unless you're gaming 40-80 hours per week.……forgetit
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Have you can ever done software development before? You ever consider because so much of the UI was loaded on the gamepad screen that it didn't exist or have the appropriate code to display it on the screen? It really isn't that hard of a concept. I pro controller is a stripped down gamepad. Most periferals people are talking about are at there core the original consoles controller with additional features added or just built differently. It makes sense how this would happen, it sucks, but it totally makes sense.
Yeah, I've noticed this too, so hopefully they add Pro Controller support for inputting payment information soon too.
I myself just ran into this issue when buying some Hyrule Warriors DLC over the weekend. My GamePad still works and everything, so I was able to pay for it, but it didn't make sense to me that I had to switch to the GamePad in order to enter my payment information.
No, I haven't. But considering there are other areas where the functionality to switch the display between TV and gamepad screen is built in to a single button press, I refuse to believe that there is so much incompetence over at Nintendo that going through a checkout process using a TV is literally impossible.
feature identical? At least my Pro controllers definitely do not have a screen and also no touchpad functionality.
evilromero
Member
I'm lounging on the couch and don't want to hold the bulky pad? I always leave the pad on the cradle near the tv and prefer the pro controller or Wii more because it's easier to use with one hand.
……forgetit
Member
Well you'd be incorrect in that assumption. They're more than likely working on fixing it, but at launch the moment it's 100% possible that the code doesn't exist to make that happen.
Stilton Disco
Member
Which I'd have prefered frankly. If they've added Pro Controller support, they should have done it properly, not half arsed it like they clearly have.
There are moments when I love this console, when I'm just spending hours with Bayonetta, Smash and the like, and it's just fun!
But then I'll need to faff around with a load of menus and swap controllers or just do something annoyingly convoluted just because Nintendo seem to have ignored every other tech company in existence when it came to designing the UI, and didn't think that if you're going to offer people a choice of inputs, different people have different tastes and preferences.
Take Hyrule Warriors. I want to use the Pro Controller, but also want to use Amiibos with it. I can't do both. I have to start with the Gamepad, add the Amiibo unlocks, then go back to the main menu and restart the game to be able to use the Pro. It's just such a fucking hassle.
Yes. Two sticks a dpad and a bunch of buttons, just like the gamepad. No screen? Hey that's what the TV is for. This is in comparison to aforementioned drums/guitars which are far, FAR less feature identical to standard PS3/360 controllers AND made by 3rd parties yet retain more utility than the pro controller.
But please keep being reductive and explain to me how a touch screen is absolutely required to input credit card info.
Leafhopper
Banned
Or Gyro or a mic or TV control functions.
Because it's part of the console itself. People keep trying to take apart something that is tied to the console itself, it is the main controller as much as we don't like it.
The console is designed around the gamepad.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Holy shit people. We need a sticky for things like this at this point.
Anytime you have to ask why you have to use the game pad to do something on Wii U it's because the system was built around it and it's the main controller.
Anytime you have to ask why you have to use the game pad to do something on Wii U it's because the system was built around it and it's the main controller.
blame space
Banned
Yeah this restriction is real weird. There is no reason it should *require* the gamepad. Default to it? Sure.
……forgetit
Member
As I said before, they're working on it. Also the pro-controller was never meant to be used as much as it ended up being used. My guess it it was made sometime between third parties making Nintendo add click able sticks and them gimping the battery to cut costs.
Starwolf_UK
Member
Not in Europe. Download codes are pretty limited. NOA have a much wider selection of download codes for US Wii U owners.
That is a horrible simplification. More like "why did you bother adding Pro Controller support to the eShop only to require the GamePad to do certain actions?".
Bony Manifesto
Member
I don't think it's impossible, but Nintendo are struggling in so many more pressing areas right now, that it's not a priority for them to add the feature. Especially since the team responsible for the Wii U's interface is almost certainly working on the UI of at least one of Nintendo's forthcoming platforms. And to be fair, I'd much rather they concentrate on doing things right with their next gen hardware than put effort towards trying to improve their existing ones.
pinkurocket
Member
It's absolutely required because the Wii U doesn't have any other form of text input designed in the UI.
Haunted
Member
I feel like Nintendo should let people use an inferior input method if they really want to... strikes me as a case of "we didn't think anyone would willingly choose to do this and now we haven't planned for it". I assume they didn't bother to implement an on-screen keyboard because they knew that every user would have a Gamepad.