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Why Conservatives Must Not Vote For Bush: A Reaganite's Argument

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AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Written by Doug Bandow, senior fellow at the Cato Institute who served as a special assistant to President Reagan and was a visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation.

George W. Bush presents conservatives with a fundamental challenge: Do they believe in anything other than power? Are they serious about their rhetoric on limited, constitutionally restrained government?

Bush appears to have remained strong in the presidential race by rallying conservatives behind him. In his convention acceptance speech he derided Sen. John Kerry's claim to represent "conservative values" and seized the mantle of promoting liberty at home and abroad.

Indeed, many conservatives react like the proverbial vampire at the sight of a cross when they consider casting a ballot for Kerry. Tom Nugent, a National Review Online contributing editor, wrote: "The last thing the Republican party needs is the reckless suggestion that conservatives vote Democratic." That is mild, however, compared with the American Conservative Union's mass e-mail solicitation headlined "Why Do Terrorists Want Kerry to Win?"

Republican partisans have little choice but to focus on Kerry's perceived vulnerabilities. A few high-octane speeches cannot disguise the catastrophic failure of the Bush administration in both its domestic and its foreign policies. Mounting deficits are likely to force eventual tax increases, reversing perhaps President Bush's most important economic legacy. The administration's foreign policy is an even greater shambles, with Iraq aflame and America increasingly reviled by friend and foe alike.

Quite simply, the president, despite his well-choreographed posturing, does not represent traditional conservatism -- a commitment to individual liberty, limited government, constitutional restraint and fiscal responsibility. Rather, Bush routinely puts power before principle. As Chris Vance, chairman of Washington state's Republican Party, told the Economist: "George Bush's record is not that conservative ... There's something there for everyone."

Rest here: http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/09/10/conservatives/index.html
 

Mandark

Small balls, big fun!
I don't think the dissent of a handful of libertarians (like this) or old-school conservatives (William Bryk) will really make much of a difference. But hey, it's a big tent and there are enough smores to go around. Come on in.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
gblues said:
Oh yeah, Salon.com is the place to go for unbiased opinions.

Nathan

Yeah, I guess they just ran out of room for this piece in the new National Review.

Maybe Fortune Magazine is more your liking?
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/investing/articles/0,15114,611869,00.html

Doug Bandow:
Senior fellor at Cato Institute
Assistant to President Reagan
Visiting Fellow at the Heritage Foundation

Townhall.com "Conservative Columnist"- http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dougbandow/archive.shtml
Some of His Articles at Townhall.com:
"Ronald Reagan: America's optimistic advocate of freedom"
"Energy bill spotlights trial attorneys' influence over Democrats"
"The real Democratic Party dud"
"Greenpeace bends tax laws to fit its radical agenda"
"Al Gore's selective amnesia"
"Left-wing demagoguery"
"Cleaning the Clinton stables"

National Review Columnist-
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-bandow072403.asp
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Azih said:
Especially when it fails so spectacularly.

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Alcibiades

Member
Make sure to check the Libertarian or Constituation party box then, cause if Bush isn't a conservative (and he's not on government spending), then the're no other choice...
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
efralope said:
Make sure to check the Libertarian or Constituation party box then, cause if Bush isn't a conservative (and he's not on government spending), then the're no other choice...

Might want to try reading that article.
 

Alcibiades

Member
I didn't want to register for the salon article, so I read the intro to the fortune one (where I don't want to register either), and it mentioned the deficit and spending, in commening on that, I meant a balanced budget isn't really an option with Bush, and in fact the only one willing to cut programs are the Libertarians. Not that I support cutting programs, just saying it's not an option with either Republicans or Democrats.

I know about the Cato Institute and Heritage foundation (Cato was anti-war since before the UN vote and Heritage was for it). I'm not 100% sure, but I think they are both libertarian groups, but I'm not certain. Either way, they always sponsor speeches that eventually make it to C-SPAN so that's where I heard of them.

Anyway, I didn't feel like signing up them having to check my e-mail for authorization, etc...
 

Nerevar

they call me "Man Gravy".
efralope said:
Anyway, I didn't feel like signing up them having to check my e-mail for authorization, etc...

you don't need to for the salon one. You just click on an ad. Hell, you don't even have to watch it, just switch over to a different window and browse the forums or whatever for a few minutes. Then go back, and click go - you're in for the day. Did you even try and read it?


Also, reading articles like that make me realize how much I hate the two-party system. I'm going to vote for Kerry because Bush stands for everything that I am opposed to, but I wish there was a better alternative that was not a wasted vote. The sad thing is, in America, there isn't. You can't vote for limited government without bringing along the baggage of social conservativism and religious moral authority. You can't vote for social freedom and not vote for the welfare state. It's ridiculous
 

Alcibiades

Member
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen said:
Cato is a somewhat independent libertarian group. Heritage isn't, it's closely tied to the Republican party and the rest of today's rightist movement.

thanks, yeah, I really haven't researched them much, although I've visited their site after watching some speeches or having listened to them as guests on FOX News...

The Heritage Foundation once brought a pro-free markets, pro-America, anti-Terror French politican (some sort of office like a congressman or the French equivalent).

It was cool hearing him speak about how Chirac should help the US, etc...

ConfusingJazz, I read the article, and it actually says what I thought it would say. Basically, Bush is a big spender. I disagree that there would be less spending under Kerry though, as his compromises for social programs go far beyond what Bush has allowed for.

Also, Kerry himself has said that knowing what we know now, he would have supported the war, if handled in his own way. Libertarians, officially, though, are against the war, and the article uses that as an issue of why Bush is not conservative.

A balanced budget isn't going to happen no matter who is President, and on the whole tax issue, Bush kept his promise in his first term, I see him cutting down spending before raising low and middle-class tax cuts, not to mention he specifically mentioned a simplified tax code as one of his goals.

The guy makes some good points against Bush, and I agree Bush isn't all that great as a harddcore conservative. That said, I kinda like his moderate position and just wish he would cut down basically on pork barrel and education spending (the more we throw at it, the more complacency there is at districts and the worst the situation gets). Education funds should be used for school construction and teacher training, beyond that state and local officials should see to it schools are adapting to community needs.
 

Alcibiades

Member
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48708-2004Aug7.html

Knowing then what he knows today about the lack of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Kerry still would have voted to authorize the war and "in all probability" would have launched a military attack to oust Hussein by now if he were president, Kerry national security adviser Jamie Rubin said in an interview Saturday. As recently as Friday, the Massachusetts senator had said he only "might" have still gone to war.

well, I guess they did clarify "might" was from Kerry himself, but he stands by his vote, and that's why I said he's support it, but is basically critical of the was George Bush handled the situation.
 
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