Why do Canadians look down on Americans?

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Which is my point. The quality of life between America and Canada is not the main reason for Canadians to look down on America.
isnt that only a point if Australia has poor quality of life? i'm pretty share they share with us many of the points made between canada and the usa.

but it seems to me that Canada + USA would have a more similar lifestyle than Canada + Australia.
i dont know about that.
 
Is Canada a better country than Australia? Do Canadians look down on Australians?

As an Australian, I'd say there's lots of things that Canada does better than Australia. Entrepreneurship for one; Canada still has a manufacturing sector, where as Australia doesn't really.

The relative low population of Australia and it's isolation from traditional markets has always been a hindrance though, although it's proximity to Asia will probably help in the coming century.

Socially, I think Canada is more progressive, but I'd say we're pretty close in terms of culture; at least they're the culture I identify most with outside of NZ, even before I started working for a Canadian based company. I say that even though my parents are English and I have strong roots there.

In terms of quality of life, I think Australia's up there. House prices in large cities seem to be a common theme between the two countries. Depends where you live, like any country. Visitors to our company from Canada generally enjoy themselves but it probably helps our office is a few minutes away from some beautiful ocean and it's rarely cold.
 
USA has poor quality of life?
The points that were made were about prison population, obesity, healthcare access, gun culture, etc. on those issues canada and australia are very similair and the US is worse off.

Also, I asked if Australia had a lower quality of life than Canada. Seems like no one can answer that?
I've never thought of it. i assume they're more or less the same as us.

Guess I was a wrong then
we're both large countries with relatively small left-leaning populations living in banded regions because weather conditions make the majourity of our landmass inhospitable.
and we both have quirky national identities.
and we both get screwed on prices.
and we both have bad internet.

we're practically twins.

dejay said:
Canada still has a manufacturing sector
give us time, we'll finish killing it soon.
 
As an Australian, I'd say there's lots of things that Canada does better than Australia. Entrepreneurship for one; Canada still has a manufacturing sector, where as Australia doesn't really.

The relative low population of Australia and it's isolation from traditional markets has always been a hindrance though, although it's proximity to Asia will probably help in the coming century.

Socially, I think Canada is more progressive, but I'd say we're pretty close in terms of culture; at least they're the culture I identify most with outside of NZ, even before I started working for a Canadian based company. I say that even though my parents are English and I have strong roots there.

In terms of quality of life, I think Australia's up there. House prices in large cities seem to be a common theme between the two countries. Depends where you live, like any country. Visitors to our company from Canada generally enjoy themselves but it probably helps our office is a few minutes away from some beautiful ocean and it's rarely cold.


Thanks for the info. Interesting.
 
Which is my point. The quality of life between America and Canada is not the main reason for Canadians to look down on America. It may be one of them but definitely not THE reason. It's probably the stereotypical "all americans are assholes, stupid, conservative" idea. Like I said before (and some other gaffers have said it as well), the big kid on the block is the one who gets the most criticism, since they're in the spotlight.

I know next to nothing about Australia+Canada+USA relationship but it seems to me that Canada + USA would have a more similar lifestyle than Canada + Australia. Other than the whole United Kingdom thing, can't imagine how Canada and Australia is more alike than Canada and USA, who seem to be politically, culturally and geographically closer to each other. Again, I know next to nothing but that's what I perceive. Seems like both are two sides of the same coin. Maybe I'm wrong though.

Edit: If you're sister countries just because you're under the British umbrella and only because of that then that's rather silly, in my opinion. It's not like both countries depend on the UK for anything. It's definitely not like the situation I'm living in (Puerto Rico being fully dependent on the US). That would be like me feeling closer to people from Guam because we're both under the US umbrella and not feeling closer to countries like Dominican Republic or Cuba.

Definite no on the first, a bit on the second (mostly in terms of media consumption and the likes), and an obvious yes to the last.

USA has poor quality of life?

Also, I asked if Australia had a lower quality of life than Canada. Seems like no one can answer that?

Guess I was a wrong then

Canada has the strongest middle class in the world. I doubt Australia is all that far behind though. Quality of life between the two countries should be really close.

As an Australian, I'd say there's lots of things that Canada does better than Australia. Entrepreneurship for one; Canada still has a manufacturing sector, where as Australia doesn't really.

Don't worry, we're almost half way done selling it to foreigners.
 
Canadians use humor when saying they hate something. Americans have convinced themselves that hate and opinions will cause literal damage to the butt.
 
I'm still mad about the DEA via the US Ambassador leaning hard on then Liberal Canadian government to get pro marijuana legislation killed.

Things like that are frustrating.

With that said some of my fondest memories involve the United States.

Multiple summers spent in Upstate New York at a boys camp on Lake Chautauqua. Eating 5 cent wings in Buffalo.

Gawking in Times Square in NYC.

Upgraded to the Presidential Suite at Four Seasons on top of Mandalay Bay, only to lose my shirt in the Casino. ATVing through the Nevada desert.

Exploring San Francisco and eating some of the best seafood of my life.

Eating at Bubbas in Ft Lauderdale.

Watching Wrestlemania Live in Houston from box seats while eating Tex mex.

Visiting Washington D.C., arriving at 3AM and getting very lost in a VERY scary part of town.

The desolate beauty of Detroit. I've got family that live like millionaires in decaying mansions.

The awesome lakes around upstate Michigan (cottage country), some areas that rival the Canadian cottage country equivalents.


America is a country of great beauty and amazing places to visit. Most Americans I have met are some of the kindest folks out there. Loudly opinionated, yes, but in the end some pretty decent folks, some of whom despise their Governments foreign policies as much as the rest of us do.

Americans that I've met almost always want to be helpful. If your car breaks down and you announce it in a room full of Americans you will have dozens of people LOUDLY wanting to help you fix it or offering you advice, money if you need it, a lift etc.

Mind you they might get into a HUGE argument over the right way to fix it especially if everyone has been drinking... (social event almost a guaranteed certainty half the room is,feeling tipsy)

My point though is that's Americans for you. Nothing they won't do for their friends and when I've been down there they always consider Canadians their buddies (even if it is in a big brother to small brother kind of way that annoys Canadians ).

Anyways I love going Stateside. Some of the biggest godamn food courts I've ever seen. Real eating out culture down there, restaurants everywhere. You won't go hungry I can promise you that.
 
Canada is like the US, except with less guns and more healthcare.


AKA Better.

I disagree with this. Guns aren't the problem, it's something else. And our healthcare system is fine; we can't support everyone so a few fall through the cracks, hey nothing is perfect but the American healthcare system is damn close.

*Salutes flag*
 
I disagree with this. Guns aren't the problem, it's something else. And our healthcare system is fine; we can't support everyone so a few fall through the cracks, hey nothing is perfect but the American healthcare system is damn close.

*Salutes flag*

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Nothing makes my maple syrup ducts tear up like seeing a true patriot.
 
I like visiting the US but I couldn't see myself living there (personally). I'm pretty happy in Canada. But they're both pretty great countries aren't they. Looking down on either or is just ridiculous considering how close our ties are.
 
I disagree with this. Guns aren't the problem, it's something else. And our healthcare system is fine; we can't support everyone so a few fall through the cracks, hey nothing is perfect but the American healthcare system is damn close.

*Salutes flag*

The presence of guns may not cause violence, but they allow it.
 
When court decisions were legalizing gay marriage in the provinces before 2005, what was the split in public opinion?

Lets find out!

k seriously I can not find much, but in 1996, apparently for the first time, support for gay marriage was greater than the number of people that opposed it

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_marz.htm

2002-OCT: Centre for Research and Information on Canada poll

The results were:

bullet 53% of Canadian adults supported SSM
bullet 41% opposed it
bullet 6% were unsure or refused to answer.

There were polls that came in much higher (mid 60s) but not really any polls that came in lower than this, in 2002. I can only assume that numbers were even more favorable in 2005. Young people of course overwhelmingly supported same sex marriage.
 
Same for Germany. There is a distinct and strong anti-Americanism, especially in the leftist/green intelligentsia.

America is perceived as a land of dumb, gun loving "culture imperialists". American products are not good enough, American culture is not good enough and the "lack of history" is also brought up to discredit the country.

It goes so far as Disney products are forbidden in some kindergartens as per the parents' request.

Its the same damn thing everywhere. People just like to stereotype. It is easier than getting to know others.
 
Its the same damn thing everywhere. People just like to stereotype. It is easier than getting to know others.

It's nothing more than racism and the good old superiority complex. One of the reasons I want to leave Germany.

Edit: you know what really pisses me off in this debate? The American approach (which they get criticized for a lot) to national identity is "we are the greatest country" which is a positive mindset. Even if you're not, you at least have the aspiration to be the greatest country on earth, whereas Germans just constantly shit on others to make themselves feel better. What a bitter and negative attitude.
 
Americans who claim to be Canadian while abroad probably do so in hopes of sucking up to Europeans. They feel that being from Canada, and not the US, would make them seem more cultivated and "less of a hick". I don't think any Americans would do this in countries where being American comes with some prestige.

firstly it's wrong of them to believe Europeans care enough to distinguish, secondly it's not a case of prestige but being comfortable in your own skin
 
Because we're not stuck in the 18th century. Canada can't decide if it wants to be American or British, they're kinda stuck in the middle. Then they have this one 'province' that can't decide if they even want to be Canadian.

Canada's a screwed up place.
 
Canada can't decide if it wants to be American or British, they're kinda stuck in the middle.

That's another thing that drives us nuts about America: The need for "absolutes".

You're either with us or against us.
You're either left or right.
You're either republican or democrat.

The US is uncomfortable with compromise or middle grounds.
 
Because despite sharing a bunch of values, they have universal health care, better education, less obesity, less prison population, etc. It's kinda like America done properly (and I say this as an American).

no they don't. they're as fat as us and their education ain't better
 
Also:





We got rid of our dollar bill almost 30 years ago, we got rid of our pennies last year, and all our debit and credit cards use chip+PIN, and tap to pay.

I'll take the smell of real money over your multi-colored monopoly bills any day.
 
If I was Canadian I wouldn't look down on Americans, I'd pity them for not living in such an awesome country.
 
Because we're not stuck in the 18th century. Canada can't decide if it wants to be American or British, they're kinda stuck in the middle. Then they have this one 'province' that can't decide if they even want to be Canadian.

Canada's a screwed up place.

You sure about that?
 
I think most Canadians think pretty positively of Australians. They're like our sister country on the other side of the planet. Australia seems like a pretty great country, well, aside from the deadly wildlife.
 
Is it common to see people with handguns in the U.S.? I was slightly unsettled just the few times I walked by a cop with one in his/her holster over here.
 
no they don't. they're as fat as us and their education ain't better

K-12? Yes we are. That's not even open for debate. We rank much higher than you on all education indexes, and we are more educated (Canada has the highest number of university degree holders in the western world). Also, every obesity index I can find shows the United States has a significantly fatter population. We are a lot fatter than we were a decade ago, but worldwide numbers in general are growing.
 
K-12? Yes we are. That's not even open for debate. We rank much higher than you on all education indexes, and we are more educated (Canada has the highest number of university degree holders in the western world). Also, every obesity index I can find shows the United States has a significantly fatter population. We are a lot fatter than we were a decade ago, but worldwide numbers in general are growing.

It's not just that we're the most educated country in the west. We're just straight up the most educated country in the world.
 
It's not just that we're the most educated country in the west. We're just straight up the most educated country in the world.

I didn't want anyone to react adversely Lol saying the "west" doesn't make people react as defensively as saying the "world". Being best in the west already makes us defacto créme de la créme.
 
Holding an university degree means very little to me. The stupidest people I have ever met were students I met while attending a Canadian university.
 
I'll take my Poutine.

Damnit. I can't find any place to buy cheese curds. I did find some at the Farmer's market this morning but wanted $7 for this tiny little tub of them. Forget that. The $3.99 Poutine pack at Trader Joe's comes with the fries, curds, and beef sauce.

But I still want to make my own and I need to find a place to get cheese curds.
 
I think most Canadians think pretty positively of Australians. They're like our sister country on the other side of the planet. Australia seems like a pretty great country, well, aside from the deadly wildlife.

Yes, you both have fossil fueled right-wing governments at this point that are powered by resource extraction.
 
In this thread I have learned that other countries are just as ignorant about America as we are about them.

Actually the rest of the (european + Canada) world actually spends a lot more time on educating students on international matter than the United States does. So this is not true.
 
Damnit. I can't find any place to buy cheese curds. I did find some at the Farmer's market this morning but wanted $7 for this tiny little tub of them. Forget that. The $3.99 Poutine pack at Trader Joe's comes with the fries, curds, and beef sauce.

But I still want to make my own and I need to find a place to get cheese curds.

You did though.
 
I don't think Canadians do. I think french canadians do, but they look down on everyone.

I think canadians probably agree and dislike anything about america that an american would.
 
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