Why is Naughty Dog Causing Outrage !?

Because they've spent 5 years shoveling the same shit!
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Naughty Dog used to release games every 2-3 years with industry leading graphics. Ever since PS5 launched, they have done zilch. Just profit farming TLOU and they released a shit season 2 tv series.
 
naughty dog doesn't, neil druckman does, since this dude become studio head none of his game feel interested for me, and his wet dream of chasing after hollyweed rather than making game is disgusting
 
Tlou2 is great game thats being hated on for way too much it should. That was the time when weirdoes started going after Neil( I do think he has some shitty opinions under his belt, especially going with Anita Sarkeesian).
 
I'm not sure what people want.

In the Ghost of Yōtei thread, people are complaining that the sequel doesn't look that much improved from its predecessor. Five year dev cycle.

Intergalactic is a new IP and looks like it's going to be six years cycle. This is in a new genre, and right after ND delivered a massive game with TLOU2. Easy to forget but Covid is part of this conversation as well.

You can complain about either but don't complain about both.
 
PurePlatinum said:
I'm not sure what people want.

In the Ghost of Yōtei thread, people are complaining that the sequel doesn't look that much improved from its predecessor. Five year dev cycle.

Intergalactic is a new IP and looks like it's going to be six years cycle. This is in a new genre, and right after ND delivered a massive game with TLOU2. Easy to forget but Covid is part of this conversation as well.

You can complain about either but don't complain about both.
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Covid affected everyone, so it's not an excuse. Not anymore.

People complain more about the manifest cross-gen nature of Yotei, rather than about the iterative differences in structure/gameplay (it's a sequel after all).

And users feel that Intergalactic, while being a new IP, could share the same issues, since that is what has happened to basically every single Sony IP this gen (except maybe Ratchet?): old-gen titles updated in res and some features, but fundamentally there's no true next-gen offerings (whereas third parties have delivered: Silent Hill 2, Hellblade 2 and so on).

It's probably an issue with management and corporate strategy.

But I'm probably OT, since I'm never going to click on those YT bait shit xD
 
There's no guarantee Intergalactic will even release this gen since there's no date. If it goes into PS6 territory, this gen will have ND only making remakes/remasters.... UC Collection, LOU Part 1, LOU2 Remastered.

Other gens:

PS3: UC1, UC2, UC3, LOU1

PS4: More LOU stuff (DLC and Remastered), UC4, UC LL, LOU2
 
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Seomel said:
Tlou2 is great game thats being hated on for way too much it should. That was the time when weirdoes started going after Neil( I do think he has some shitty opinions under his belt, especially going with Anita Sarkeesian).
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TLOU2 is a great game if you like a completely pointless story development, since if Ellie did absolutely nothing after Joel died the final outcome would be exactly the same.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
There's no guarantee Intergalactic will even release this gen since there's no date. If it goes into PS6 territory, this gen will have ND only making remakes/remasters.... UC Collection, LOU1 Part 1, LOU2 Remastered.
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Wait, has a remake or remaster of the UC Collection for PS5 been announced?
 
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PurePlatinum said:
I'm not sure what people want.

In the Ghost of Yōtei thread, people are complaining that the sequel doesn't look that much improved from its predecessor. Five year dev cycle.

Intergalactic is a new IP and looks like it's going to be six years cycle. This is in a new genre, and right after ND delivered a massive game with TLOU2. Easy to forget but Covid is part of this conversation as well.

You can complain about either but don't complain about both.
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Why not? Ghost of yotei looks like tsushima 1.5 + woman.

Intergalactic looks like ultimate DEI + politics, the game. Made by the same studio that delivered 3 games per gen until now.
 
roosnam1980 said:
Why is Naughty Dog Causing Outrage !?
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Because they changed their focus from trying to appeal their fans to trying to appeal certain politics/social engineering/religious agenda.

And well, in some cases also because they didn't release a new game in a while, because games take longer to be made every generation, and because they spent several years in a game that ended cancelled.

Meaning, even if they released several ports, remasters, remakes, a movie and a tv show, regarding brand new games their previous game was released in 2020 and their next one will be released in 2026 or 2027.

JohnnyFootball said:
You do realize they were pushed by Sony to make a GaaS, that wasted quite a bit of their time.
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They weren't pushed by Sony. ND originally was going to have Factions 2 in TLOU2, but were running out of time and after some delays they still weren't to achieve it.

So in 2019 they decided to release TLOU2 with SP only and focus there for TLOU2 and instead of cutting Factions 2 to make it smaller and have it at launch but rushed or cancelling it, decided to move it to become its own standalone game.

By doing so, they not only would be able to keep all the ideas they had for it, but in fact would be able to expand the original scope they had for it. Being a MP game, nowadays it means to be a GaaS.

ND's idea was to make this MP game, while at the same time to develop multiple SP only games. But time later they realized the resources that were really going to take to keep successfully supporting post launch the MP game, and were more than the ones they had, specially because they grew during that period from being a studio who worked in a single big new game at the same time to a studio that worked on 3 big games at the same time. They saw that couldn't have at the sime time the MP game and the SP games, so decided to kill the MP title and focus in SP only going forward.

wafflecioccy said:
ND just does whatever Sony wants
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There's no Sony heads forcing ND to do something in particular. If that would be the case, just after Uncharted 4 they'd have been forced to make Uncharted 5 and just after TLOU2 they'd have been forced to make TLOU3.

ND, like the other studios, are the ones who pitch their ideas to PS Studios HQ. Being very prestigious, talented, successful and experienced devs, if they can't do what they want they could quit and go with other big publisher who would let them to whatever they want.

ND were making a GaaS because ND (and not PS Studios/SIE heads) decided turn Factions 2 into a standalone game.

Time later ND decided to cancel it because later noticed that its post launch resources needed to keep it successful were going to be too high, and didn't have enough resources to also work in the multiple SP games they also wanted to make at the same time.

ND had to decide between MP title and multiple SP games, and decided multiple SP games.

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Alan Silvestro said:
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I think she does a good job, could have decided to move the camera down a bit to show a couple reasons that would generate more clicks.
 
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Ar¢tos said:
TLOU2 is a great game if you like a completely pointless story development, since if Ellie did absolutely nothing after Joel died the final outcome would be exactly the same.
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It's almost like that...is the fucking point? You seem to suggest however that ellie as a character has no development as a person throughout her actions in TLOU 2. I fail to believe people are actually this stupid. Is this how you view all narratives? Binary outcomes of who is alive and dead at the end of it? Irrespective of what actually happens during it?

I find it so funny when people hate on tlou 2 for it's story/plot holes. Even if they have valid points...it's still much better than 99% of the slop stories in videogames. There are much more valid concerns around gameplay/game design in TLOU than there are narrative. Sadly though - the modern "gamer" seems way more focused on identity politics or looking for things to get triggered over, than concerning themselves over, you know, the fucking core gameplay mechanics.
 
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ozz ex machina said:
It's almost like that...is the fucking point? You seem to suggest however that ellie as a character has no development as a person throughout her actions in TLOU 2. I fail to believe people are actually this stupid. Is this how you view all narratives? Binary outcomes of who is alive and dead at the end of it? Irrespective of what actually happens during it?

I find it so funny when people hate on tlou 2 for it's story/plot holes. Even if they have valid points...it's still much better than 99% of the slop stories in videogames. There are much more valid concerns around gameplay/game design in TLOU than there are narrative.
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The first game was about potentially saving the world from a fungal zombie eradication, the second game is about.... the feelings of a lesbian twink?!?
No bigger picture, infected are part of the scenery now.
What's part 3 about? Her first yeast infection and how it shaped her views of life in the next 2 decades?
 
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30+ minutes video with obvious rage bait thumbnail? no thx.

But to answer the question, IMO:
Because many people didn't like the direction they took with the story in TLOU2 + they haven't released anything new in 5 years and we don't even know if Intergalactic will be out next year + what they have shown of Intergalactic doesn't look exciting: Another tomboyish girlboss in a tired "Sci Fi but 80s inspired" setting (though I do think opinions will change when they show more gameplay)
 
More like let's create some outrage. Nobody was even talking about ND. Their game is also in the top 20 in Circanas latest results too so it's not like the studio is going through some new turmoil or anything to be making a video like this.
 
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i have a suggestion for Neil Drunkman:

release a Director's Cut for TLoU2 in which the ending is Joel waking up from a nightmare (the story of the game) Boom. that's the only way to fix the damage the have done to this IP ans people will be happy to get the actual part 2.
 
wafflecioccy said:
Naughty Dog used to release games every 2-3 years with industry leading graphics. Ever since PS5 launched, they have done zilch. Just profit farming TLOU and they released a shit season 2 tv series.
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Keep in mind we're on a console that's is infinitely easier to develop for than the ps3, it's basically a glorified pc. Google says Naugty dog team during ps3 era was around 240 people….now? Over 400. These were the same people that released 3 uncharted games and the last of us on ps3. This is really blowing my mind, the current games industry is a fucking joke.
 
There seems to be two camps....

1) ND is perfect and nothing they do is wrong

2) The studio went to shit after Neil Cuckman took over and all they've done is re-release the same shit for years and they are getting a free pass despite that fact

People who fall into option 2 are not really looking to give them any credit for finally trying something new (with the bald chick/man game), whether justified or not.
 
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