elitehebrew
Member
Are they going to keep the original intro video/song? God i hope they do taht is the best part of the whole game. Thanks for any info provided
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Well they continued the awesome anime intros with WA3, and there's supposed to be 2 hours of anime in Alter Code...
I can't wait, WA1 had the coolest story of all 3 that I've played, and will be AMAZING with a remake.
C'mon, when you first found out the truth about Rudy...........
I can't wait, WA1 had the coolest story of all 3 that I've played, and will be AMAZING with a remake.
C'mon, when you first found out the truth about Rudy...........
DarknessTear
Banned
They change the intro but keep the song I believe. Sad though, I really would have liked it if they kept the old design and style.
DarknessTear
Banned
Same music, different instruments basically. It's not really as good in my opinion.
IGN has a video of the intro.
http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/571/571771/vids_3.html
Same music, different video. The original was nicer IMO.
http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/571/571771/vids_3.html
Same music, different video. The original was nicer IMO.
Greenpanda
Banned
Dare I think that this game is actually coming out?
The Gaming Gamer
Member
I like the unique skills each character had in battle, and even in the field, and also the different items you could use. Are the other Wild Arms similar to the original, I really liked the original but I never really had a chance to play it fully because it was one of my first PS1 games and I didn't have a memory card.
Shouta
Member
The game is decent at best. While it's a pretty solid update and playable, it doesn't replace the original at all. The game just doesn't feel quite as satisfying as the original or the first three games.
The script for the game is rewritten but maintains all the story elements and major plot points as I recall. They just axed a few of the superfluous events in the game I think. That said, the script reads much better but it seems to move much faster at times. So you find yourself progressing through it fairly quickly.
There's quite a few things that were taken from WA2 and WA3 and put into the game such as the Migrant System, Search System, and a stripped down personal point system.
The battle system is a straightforward variant of the Wild Arms 3 battle system without the hyper customization. It's pretty good (as in battles again force you to use the battle system to its utmost) but lacks a bit of depth because of the lack of WA3's customization. Also, the commands that the original characters had are now split up between the 3 new characters. For example, Cecilia used to have Mystic but that's been given to Jane. Cecilia is the only character that's able to summon Guardians now as well. There's a few other things to boot. Personal points (from WA2 and WA3) are in the game as well but not quite as indepth as I recall. I will say that the battle system is much speedier so the time spent in battle is much smaller than it was in the original.
The audio is extremely good and I liked it a lot (big fan of the Michiko Naruke myself). While it's a bit off at first since some you'll likely be used to the original's music, it's actually very good on closer examination. I'm not sure what Agetec will do with the remake's voices though.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of much more, my (shoddy) review of it that's online says basically the same thing. I'd recommend it for 30 bucks or less personally.
The script for the game is rewritten but maintains all the story elements and major plot points as I recall. They just axed a few of the superfluous events in the game I think. That said, the script reads much better but it seems to move much faster at times. So you find yourself progressing through it fairly quickly.
There's quite a few things that were taken from WA2 and WA3 and put into the game such as the Migrant System, Search System, and a stripped down personal point system.
The battle system is a straightforward variant of the Wild Arms 3 battle system without the hyper customization. It's pretty good (as in battles again force you to use the battle system to its utmost) but lacks a bit of depth because of the lack of WA3's customization. Also, the commands that the original characters had are now split up between the 3 new characters. For example, Cecilia used to have Mystic but that's been given to Jane. Cecilia is the only character that's able to summon Guardians now as well. There's a few other things to boot. Personal points (from WA2 and WA3) are in the game as well but not quite as indepth as I recall. I will say that the battle system is much speedier so the time spent in battle is much smaller than it was in the original.
The audio is extremely good and I liked it a lot (big fan of the Michiko Naruke myself). While it's a bit off at first since some you'll likely be used to the original's music, it's actually very good on closer examination. I'm not sure what Agetec will do with the remake's voices though.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of much more, my (shoddy) review of it that's online says basically the same thing. I'd recommend it for 30 bucks or less personally.
Shouta
Member
The Gaming Gamer said:
Wild Arms 2 and Wild Arms 3 are pretty much evolutions of the first game. A lot of elements keep getting refined each game and are made better.
With that said, I think they're pretty similar overall. The details will be different but the basic feel of the games are the same. Actually, the games become a bit more western as they go on but retain a bit of a sci-fi element to it that usually ends up ruining the story (the Wild Arms TV anime series actually does this well btw).
WA2 is closer to WA1 but WA3 is a better overall game. Most people don't like either game though (usually because they don't have fun with it rather than it being a mechanic issue).
Greenpanda
Banned
The Gaming Gamer said:
Yeah, they're pretty similar. As for the things you mentioned, in WA2 the characters have even more distinct skills (and there are more characters!) and Tools / action items. In WA3, the characters are more similar in battle, but they still have the different Tools.
Off the top of my head, I'd also say that WA1 has my favorite game intro--at least, I can't think of anything I like more right now.
Shouta
Member
All the characters in WA2 and WA3 have their own unique skills. The WA2 characters have more unique skills of their own than either the first or third game though. WA3 gives the characters one unique skill and a few skills that are shared but gives you an incredible amount of customization through the Guardians and Personal Points.
Alphonse said:
Yeah, you're absolutely right there. There wasn't much mechanically wrong with WA3 (wellll...the search system was still pretty retarded) it was just really boring/standard and not fun to play. WA4 again is pretty solid gameplay-wise, but it's not particularly interesting or fun to play. I think the 'fun' is what's been missing in WA since WA1.
Crazymoogle
Member
I don't really understand how WA2 could be construed as "fun" with that localization, but whatever. I'm buying ACF more or less because I liked WA1 and feel compelled to buy games with HDD support, so I suppose my opinion can be suspect too.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
QTF, sadly. I actually really loved the characters and story in WA3 until about the last 1/3 of it... then the extraordinarly generic anime sci-fi elements made the entire thing implausible and I stopped caring.Alphonse said:
Shouta
Member
May16 said:
In no particular order (including SRPGs):
Shadow Hearts 2
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Star Ocean 3
Growlanser IV
Wild Arms 3
Grandia Xtreme
Dragon Quest VIII
Dark Cloud 2
Final Fantasy X
There's a few games pending my completion of them including:
TearRing Saga Series: Berwick Saga
Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner 1+2
DarknessTear
Banned
I stopped begging people to buy it ever since XSEED decided to do WA4. So rent it and see if you like it first. I'm just satisfied as long as new WA games get here now.
Tabris said:
Ehhh, it's a toss-up. I got about halfway into ACF, some things I liked more, some less. I'd say overall I didn't like it quite as much as the original, but it's still pretty decent. I'd still reccommend picking it up, unless you insist on only owning one or the other.
Drinky Crow
Banned
What makes ACF inferior to the original WA? (Outside of the ugly FMV summon spells, that is.)
Shouta
Member
It's more or less a straightforward remake without really trying to improve the core elements. The only thing that guy a facelift were the audio and visuals. The game just doesn't have a draw. The gameplay isn't as nearly as good compared to the previous WAs and the story feels thin throughout the game. The new visuals and the new audio are great but the other stuff feels like a step back in some regards.
It's been nearly two years since I played the import (FUCK YOU AGETEC, JESUS), but as far as I can recall they basically took the gameplay mechanics and systems of WA3 and tossed them in WA1. Keep in mind it's been close to two years now, so forigve me if I'm off on any of this, I can barely remember what I played a few months ago 
-BAD load times, were made significantly less with the HDD (Is that supported in the US version?)
-You no longer buy new weapons/armor/accessories, this was a MAJOR turnoff for me personally.
-Five more playable characters that come and go with the story, but you STILL don't get fucking
which is the main character I would've liked to had playable.
-Not sure if I'm remembering the term right, but you only have one "FP"(?) ability in battle, as opposed to the four different levels you had in the original, unless I didn't get far enough to unlock the other three. This means also that only Cecelia can use summons now, although as I recall they're pretty badass. Cecelia also gets back 1MP every time she physically attacks in battle. To the point I'd gotten in the game (about halfway) I don't think I'd found any MP restoring items.
-Jack's Fast Draw techniques level up the more you use them. And for some reason I remember it really annoying me that his sword stays sheathed when you attack, he only takes it out for Fast Draws.
And basically all of the WA3 systems were dumped into this, love or hate it: Gimel Coins, Personal Skills, Map "Search" field system thingie, Migrant Seals, Vitality bar, Exp. Bonus system (which seems to be easily exploitable since basically if you do anything it goes up, all of my battles were ending with 1.4-1.5 easy), if you're dead at the end of a battle your max HP is lowered until you sleep at an inn, etc, etc.
It's a good game, and I like some of the WA3 elements, but not all. As far as I got I'd give it a solid 7.5-8, but would probably overall still prefer the original. Worth getting if you're a WA fan definetely though, but if you're not a WA fan it might be a rental, and if you didn't like WA before this certainly isn't going to change your mind.
-BAD load times, were made significantly less with the HDD (Is that supported in the US version?)
-You no longer buy new weapons/armor/accessories, this was a MAJOR turnoff for me personally.
-Five more playable characters that come and go with the story, but you STILL don't get fucking
Lady Harken
-Not sure if I'm remembering the term right, but you only have one "FP"(?) ability in battle, as opposed to the four different levels you had in the original, unless I didn't get far enough to unlock the other three. This means also that only Cecelia can use summons now, although as I recall they're pretty badass. Cecelia also gets back 1MP every time she physically attacks in battle. To the point I'd gotten in the game (about halfway) I don't think I'd found any MP restoring items.
-Jack's Fast Draw techniques level up the more you use them. And for some reason I remember it really annoying me that his sword stays sheathed when you attack, he only takes it out for Fast Draws.
And basically all of the WA3 systems were dumped into this, love or hate it: Gimel Coins, Personal Skills, Map "Search" field system thingie, Migrant Seals, Vitality bar, Exp. Bonus system (which seems to be easily exploitable since basically if you do anything it goes up, all of my battles were ending with 1.4-1.5 easy), if you're dead at the end of a battle your max HP is lowered until you sleep at an inn, etc, etc.
It's a good game, and I like some of the WA3 elements, but not all. As far as I got I'd give it a solid 7.5-8, but would probably overall still prefer the original. Worth getting if you're a WA fan definetely though, but if you're not a WA fan it might be a rental, and if you didn't like WA before this certainly isn't going to change your mind.
Greenpanda
Banned
SailorDaravon said:
Well,
she wouldn't have been able to join until really, really late in the game ... it probably wasn't worth adding her in...
Crazymoogle
Member
SailorDaravon said:
Apparently not an Agetec issue?
Yes.
Looks like it's coming out on November 15th, after all:
Source: http://p068.ezboard.com/fagetecfrm43.showMessage?topicID=28.topic
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
rofl, way to piss off agetec
edit: wow, he included his website's URL too, what a dumbshit
edit: wow, he included his website's URL too, what a dumbshit