Will Smith Matrix movie incoming

jason10mm said:
I dunno, I give Reloaded more credit than most (Revolutions just failed to deliver on any of the landings). I see it as a final celebration of humanity in the face of almost certain extinction. Went on a bit too long but the concept was sound.
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I always thought with Reloaded that a miss opportunity was them doing a spin off of other versions of the Matrix.

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When they bring it up in that movie and how there were versions with legendary monsters and ghost in them.
 
8bitpill said:
I always thought with Reloaded that a miss opportunity was them doing a spin off of other versions of the Matrix.

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When they bring it up in that movie and how there were versions with legendary monsters and ghost in them.
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"Missed Opportunities" should be the tag line for any discussion of the Wachowskis and the Matrix.
 
You're being harsh on the Wachowskis in my opinion. Matrix 1 is a masterpiece, 2 was pretty good and 3 was... uh. They also did Speed Racer which I really like too.

And they made Cloud Atlas, another greatly underrated masterpiece!



I would say Sense8 was very solid too. They are not your average Hollywood yes man.
 
KyoZz said:
You're being harsh on the Wachowskis in my opinion. Matrix 1 is a masterpiece, 2 was pretty good and 3 was... uh. They also did Speed Racer which I really like too.

And they made Cloud Atlas, another greatly underrated masterpiece!



I would say Sense8 was very solid too. They are not your average Hollywood yes man.
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Cloud Atlas benefitted from a strong book as a source. I think their decision to use prosthetics was a bad call though, made it laughable even if they did a good job working the story.
 
8bitpill said:
Still connected.

I haven't watched that live action Aladdin movie, so I don't know if those are scenes from it or a music video tie ins.
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Yeah havent seen that either lol, I was mostly talking about his older movies

And I always enjoyed his hit singles tbh
 
jason10mm said:
Cloud Atlas benefitted from a strong book as a source. I think their decision to use prosthetics was a bad call though, made it laughable even if they did a good job working the story.
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Yeah I know it's adapted from a book (supposedly unadaptable), and yet they translated it perfectly which is insane in itself. For the make-up while I agree to some degree, it never took me away from the movie. I think the story is beautiful and the OST is "chef kiss". Not to mention the stellar cast.

I love this movie ^^.
 
ÆMNE22A!C said:
Yeah.

Note to self: read the OP

And a music video is even worse imo.

Who asked for that?
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WOW! You stopped watching an actor because of one action. It was wild but he apologized and Chris eventually forgave him. If HE did, why can't you? It's not like he does that often.

And who asks for ANYTHING that comes out? Did anyone ask for Billie Jean video? Smells Like Teen Spirit? My Chick Bad? Freedom? Not Like Us?
 
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Me neither. Just have a tainted view of the guy. And don't forget how that instance was handled regarding the totality of it .. In regards to my who asked for this statement and your via extension generalization; a Woll Smoth Matrix track can't really compare to something as fundamental as freedom.

I get your train of thought though but when looking deep into your heart and soul you know nobody asked for this and is just IP&IP = X
 
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ÆMNE22A!C said:
Me neither. Just have a tainted view of the guy. And don't forget how that instance was handled regarding the totality of it .. In regards to my who asked for this statement and your via extension generalization; a Woll Smoth Matrix track can't really compare to something as fundamental as freedom.

I get your train of thought though but when looking deep into your heart and soul you know nobody asked for this and is just IP&IP = X
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The SONG Freedom by Beyonce. Not the concept of freedom.

Yeah, he handled the apology badly IN PUBLIC... But he also apologized to Chris in private and according to Chris, he forgave Will. They buried the hatchet.

One action shouldn't color the man's entire life. He didn't put Chris in the ICU, didn't kill him, didn't do anything that's illegal or evil. He isn't perfect NOR she he be expected to be perfect. He's human. With human feelings and he let one moment get to him ...

I'm still amazed at how people will forgive some but not others for the same action, televised or not.
 
I'm on mobile and to exhausted to get into a discussion which will take me far to long to get my point across especially when it's initial point of entry regards a fucking music vid. Again I get where you're coming from in certain statements/opionions you've stated.
 
DeafTourette said:
The SONG Freedom by Beyonce. Not the concept of freedom.

Yeah, he handled the apology badly IN PUBLIC... But he also apologized to Chris in private and according to Chris, he forgave Will. They buried the hatchet.

One action shouldn't color the man's entire life. He didn't put Chris in the ICU, didn't kill him, didn't do anything that's illegal or evil. He isn't perfect NOR she he be expected to be perfect. He's human. With human feelings and he let one moment get to him ...

I'm still amazed at how people will forgive some but not others for the same action, televised or not.
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I don't hold anything against Will.

At the time I thought it was a dick move, but then I put myself in his shoes. I imagined if somebody made a joke about my wife's condition. A condition that I knew my wife was insecure about. Would I have laughed it off? Nope. I probably would have done the same as Will, but with a closed fist.
 
Please no, Matrix has already suffered enough neglect and abuse. I'm sure most people are happy it was Keanu Reeves and not Will Smith that ended up being Neo, but you find out that many movies that you have watched and liked have passed up on other potential actors for the main role, and sometimes you think it could have worked out for that actor, I don't get that vibe from Will Smith. It's like Tom Cruise, he has his own style of movies that work for him, same with Will Smith and Matrix aint one of it. The Matrix is a serious movie, leave the punch lines at the door.
 
Mr1999 said:
Please no, Matrix has already suffered enough neglect and abuse. I'm sure most people are happy it was Keanu Reeves and not Will Smith that ended up being Neo, but you find out that many movies that you have watched and liked have passed up on other potential actors for the main role, and sometimes you think it could have worked out for that actor, I don't get that vibe from Will Smith. It's like Tom Cruise, he has his own style of movies that work for him, same with Will Smith and Matrix aint one of it. The Matrix is a serious movie, leave the punch lines at the door.
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If you'd actually read the thread you would know this is a music video. It would've saved you this whole wall of text.
 
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Shaki12345 said:
Why is it bad? Is somebody forcing you to watch it or listen to it?
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Why do you care if others think it's a bad idea or not, sounds like you have more invested in this, are we not allowed opinion on it, are you forcing me to like it? Two can play that game....
 
Mr1999 said:
Why do you care if others think it's a bad idea or not, sounds like you have more invested in this, are we not allowed opinion on it, are you forcing me to like it? Two can play that game....
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Who said I care? I am asking you why you care. Sounds like your reading comprehension needs some work pal.
 
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If there isn't a scene where Will tries to dodge a slap in bullet time and fails spectacularly, it's an instant flop. No exceptions.
 
Idleyes said:
If there isn't a scene where Will tries to dodge a slap in bullet time and fails spectacularly, it's an instant flop. No exceptions.
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They should cast Chris Rock as one of the Agents.

edit: Ted Danson as Morpheus
In the scene where he tells Will Smith's character to climb out the window in the office building, the response should be "Oh hell no. *Hell* no!"
 
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KyoZz said:
You're being harsh on the Wachowskis in my opinion. Matrix 1 is a masterpiece, 2 was pretty good and 3 was... uh. They also did Speed Racer which I really like too.

And they made Cloud Atlas, another greatly underrated masterpiece!



I would say Sense8 was very solid too. They are not your average Hollywood yes man.
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Sense8 gave me matrix style vibes and it was a great series.
 
KyoZz said:
You're being harsh on the Wachowskis in my opinion. Matrix 1 is a masterpiece, 2 was pretty good and 3 was... uh. They also did Speed Racer which I really like too.

And they made Cloud Atlas, another greatly underrated masterpiece!



I would say Sense8 was very solid too. They are not your average Hollywood yes man.
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Even with their transitions, that's why I still respect them. Speed Racer is easily one of my favorite movies.

I also felt like one of a handful of people who appreciated what Cloud Atlas was doing. It really felt like something that you have to twist your brain into a pretzel to understand completely the meaning of it's trying to convey. It's not something that can be explained, but only felt. I know how pretentious that sounds, but it's the best I can describe it. It also just had really solid performances throughout. I actually liked how they used the same actors to play different parts in different time periods. There were connections between those characters that I was able to pick up on because of that.

Ya know, I'll go out on a limb here and say...the first 1/3 or so of Matrix Resurrections could've been made a good movie also. It just kinda falls flat eventually.
 
Soodanim said:
I know it's not the same circumstance and it's meant to be funny, but seeing comedy anywhere near Matrix makes me cringe at what could have been. Even though he's done serious movies I just can't see it having worked out.
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Yeah, Matrix spoof videos are peak 2000-era and at this point honestly pretty cringe.

Dodged a bullet with him passing on the project honestly. Can't even imagine him as Neo.
 
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