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Flash Junkins
Member
It doesn't revolve around Metal Gear Solid either?
Methos#1975
Member
Not a racist mindset, I've literally already heard this situation being used in such a manner both online and while out interacting with others in town.
///PATRIOT
Banned
Virtue signaling for the sake of "I support the current thing" does not accomplish anything.
Stopping your world for things happening thousands of km far away from you and out of your control does not accomplish anything.
There are a few people in here, a lot on Reddit and twitter obsessed to the point that the invasion is another entertainment for them...
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Ionian
Member
Love the fact his reply was IN A THREAD ABOUT WILL SMITH.
F Flash Junkins : Try reading threads. Look at the thread title, then feel ashamed. There's a thread for the Ukraine conflict.
You choose the thread of Will Smith to cry about it, people concerned post there. Ukraine thread is busy and has always been.
You posted in a Will Smith thread?
hahahaha
DeviantBoi
Member
They’re basically saying that if you think Smith was in the wrong, you must be pearl-clutching. And if you think the joke wasn’t offensive to begin with, then you’re just a racist and the worst person in the world.
InfiniteCombo
Banned
I wonder how many people actually could even point to Ukraine in a map before a month ago.
Scotty W
Banned
I agree that Hollywood is a hypocritical and disingenuous mess, but I disagree about Denzel. Comforting a friend who has just made a monumental mistake is not the same as legitimating that mistake. It doesn’t take anything away from Chris Rock.
Ionian
Member
Then he should have done it in private. Not social media or press shit.
But then ... perhaps there was a a a ...
Scotty W
Banned
From what I saw, Denzel talked to him immediately after, during the commercial break. It looked like a private chat at a public event.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
It's been a thing talked about in the community for decades. You think it's fake because you've never heard of it and/or it doesn't affect you.
Plenty of black people have been told their hair isn't professional and to either get a wig (black women), straighten it (also black women), cut it (mostly black men) or de-style it (both sexes when hair is styled neatly but still called unprofessional or whatnot. SOME places don't care if you have an afro or cornrows or Box braids or locs or whatever... I've seen some beautiful hair styles on black folks and it's used as a reason to fire or deny someone a job.
And notice, I said the hairstyles were NEAT! Not unkempt... Not messy... NEAT!
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
That's because employers don't want people with freakish hair making their office look sloppy.
Being "neat" means nothing. I can have wacky bed head styled so it's dumbly spiking up in every direction symmetrically, or even more simply slop on a bunch of gel and do punker hair.
No different than places wanting people dressing nice. Technically there's no difference in work performance between wearing a buttoned shirt or a homer simpson wife beater, but most places will want you wearing a buttoned shirt.
No workplace is going to care if Black people have naturally afro hair. Just cut it if it's gets too loud and big and dont do weird styles. It goes for anyone not just Black people. If a blonde woman came in with really long hair that was super messy because she never combed it, she'd get spoken to by HR too. Heck, unless you maybe work at a tech company that doesn't care, no office I've ever worked at even allows opened toed shoes even during casual Friday. But some guy always tests it coming in wearing sandals. And each time, HR or their boss comes knocking.
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nush
Member
Yup, you better believe this shit goes on. When I was younger I had long hair and this one manager decided that I needed to tie it up because it "Looks dirty and greasy". It wasn't and in fact women I worked with would ask my how I got my hair looking so nice and shiny (I just washed it dried it and didn't spray loads of shit in it). So I just let this manger dig himself in deeper until I agreed that it was no problem to tie my hair up.... As long as he also made every woman that worked in the place also tie their hair up because otherwise "You've just sexually discriminated me". Manager: Suprisepikachu.jpg
For context, I'm white.
InfiniteCombo
Banned
This is not a race issue, at all. It's a professional issue. If a white dude showed up to the office looking like Sid Vicious, he'd get told to clean up his act.
DT, you seem like a smart dude. Don't fall for the narrative, please. I know it's hard to always do independent research; none of us have that kind of time. But we should be careful that a single or even a small handful of anecdotes are not misconstrued to be a "systemic" issue.
Wheeljack539
Member
TransTrender
Gold Member
LOL holy shit /\
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Probability of incoherent bad jokes: 100%
Probability of celebs sitting in their seat scared shitless to make a move: 100%
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Wheeljack539
Member
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
You just proved my point!
Your first assumption was that nontraditional (aka black) hair styles are sloppy and freakish. Are these freakish and sloppy?
It's like that woman saying "I judge people by the content of their character" but then prejudged folks she hasn't met ... That's what you sound like in your post.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I'm 47... I've known MANY people who have had issues with their NEATLY styled hair be called unprofessional or ugly. And it was almost always when the boss or HR person was white. And about half of them live in Atlanta, GA where it's a majority black population.
Not saying it's racism but the acceptable hairstyles were always straight hair which meant the women had to either do something to their natural hair or wear wigs. And the men had to cut their hair short.
Did ANY of the pics I shared above look dirty, ugly or sloppy?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I never said all Black people hair are freakish or abnormal. If you read my post, anyone with sloppy hair can be told to clean up. No different than wearing sandals to work (which I said too).You just proved my point!
Your first assumption was that nontraditional (aka black) hair styles are sloppy and freakish. Are these freakish and sloppy?
It's like that woman saying "I judge people by the content of their character" but then prejudged folks she hasn't met ... That's what you sound like in your post.
The pics you posted arent too bad, except that woman with the design which looks like a spider coming out from the back of her head wouldnt fly in many places.
I'm not HR or set the rules. I'm just telling you what it is in lots of businesses. That's life. And the more corporatey and banky it is, the more conservative it is (I've worked in them). Out of all high level employees, or even average level workers with a Linkedin pic photo, how many of them have wacky hair, face tattoos or piercings. Almost none. There's a certain level of professionalism at many companies. Of course, there are some who dont care and you can go to work with sweatpants and static cling hair.
It's like going to a job interview. Dont act like a slob or be a rebel. Just look decent.
I can tell you don't work for big corporations or have a high level job, because spider lady or Colin Kapepernick kinds of hairdos wont fly and you dont see them at the office (well, maybe a tech company). As I said before, if someone with long messy blonde hair came to work looking like he or she just woke up with bad bed head, they'd be told to fix it too.
InfiniteCombo
Banned
The stuff you talk about, if true, is indeed fucked up. Was it just limited to the hairstyles being called "ugly," or did job repercussions actually happen? (And to answer your question, as a dark guy myself, of course those hair styles are not ugly in any way. They're cool!)
The danger with anecdotes is this: Your experiences are very different than mine. As a non-white Hispanic, I've been working in a white-majority industry for over a decade -- in the state that once served as the central hub of the Confederate States of America, where every other street/building seems to be named either after Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson. And NOT ONCE, there wasn't even a HINT of anyone talking badly about my hair, about my ethnic background, about my race, about anything personal related to me. If anything, I had:
(1) A couple of coworkers ask me about the cuisine of my native home country, in a curious and appreciative manner (one of them, he and his wife actually made a dish from my home country!)
(2) Always had supportive team members, all the way. Again, majority white. They have treated me with nothing but kindness, encouragement, and mentorship.
(3) In part because of #2, but in large part due to my own blood, sweat, and tears, I have a very respectable position at the company I work at. People treat (as they have always treated) my opinions with respect and consideration.
So because you and I have lived very different experiences, which do we take as "truth?" The answer is: neither. Data and statistics (hopefully with a large sample size) are king.
Von Hugh
Member
A pretty darn good analysis of the whole situation from a body language perspective:
Hilarious that Will kept talking about being a fierce protector, a defender, and that "love will make you crazy things". Next there will be people rationalizing their shitty behavior and actions based on "it's called protecting, brah" and affection.
Interesting talk coming from a person whose balls are in Jada's purse.
Hilarious that Will kept talking about being a fierce protector, a defender, and that "love will make you crazy things". Next there will be people rationalizing their shitty behavior and actions based on "it's called protecting, brah" and affection.
Interesting talk coming from a person whose balls are in Jada's purse.
sol_bad
Member
No, but in the majority of cases it may as well be, that's where the majority of separations end up going, divorce.
nush
Member
Just over 50%, stats check out.
Hoppa
Member
Truly! Will was smiling/laughing and Jaida looked pissed - then it cut away and suddenly Will is walking on stage. Maybe he just saw her face and that set him off ? Very odd
chromhound
Member
mansoor1980
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Wheeljack539
Member
MikeM
Member
New to the oscars? Hosts roasting actors is part of the deal.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
I guess Kareem is self hating "racist" for his take. 
. For what it's worth I agree with him. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kareem-abdul-jabbar-will-smith_n_62441545e4b0d7ac3d53a6e3
. For what it's worth I agree with him. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kareem-abdul-jabbar-will-smith_n_62441545e4b0d7ac3d53a6e3
ManaByte
Member
jufonuk
not tag worthy
Zeroing
Banned
Wow Americans live on a different reality. Oh kids watch the oscars? In Europe they do not, it starts past 1 am.
eddie4
Genuinely Generous
DispatchNinja
Banned
Only thing Will did was shine more light on Jada’s condition. Nobody would be talking about or care about Jada’s hair loss if he didn’t act like a child on national television. Hell, if I saw a picture of Jada before all of this I would just think it’s her chosen style. She’s had incredibly short hair for years any time I saw her pop up somewhere.
Kilau
Gold Member
My kids don’t lol. They already learned from Daniel Tiger not to hit someone anyway.
///PATRIOT
Banned
jesus....
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
aren't too bad? Jesus bro
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
Does it? I just watched a man making poor judgement defending his wife on a huge platform. The pigment of his skin never entered my mind personally.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
That just made my day. Holy shit that's funny.
chromhound
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