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Windows 11 KB5074109 is causing performance drops with Nvidia GPUs

when playing games i tend to just play them and have fun so i won't notice any performance drops unless it's major. most updates, OS or gpu driver, are likely going to add performance gains/losses. as long as it's not something completely broken or performance keeps getting worse over time then i don't care.

that said, the only thing i've noticed recently is sometimes when i shut down my PC (which isn't that much) my display will sometimes not appear until the log in screen. usually i can see the bios stuff. once or twice it doesn't turn back on and i need to quickly press my PC power button which for some reason brings back the display.

everything else is "fine". nothing unsual. i'm fully up to date on everything with windows and nvidia drivers.
 
Unfortunately I have a PC to play exactly the type of games that I think a) suck on console and b) don't work on linux. Mostly FPS or RTS games, that have anticheat. Some are non-negotiable like Starcraft.

Just to get by playing those games, I can tolerate Windows, but it slowly slid away from being my main platform, to something I only use when necessary.
 
Guwop said:
Same here. No performance issues whatsoever after update ( RTX 5070 Ti ) Hell I haven't had a single problem with Windows 11 since it launched. I guess I'm lucky LOL.
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Since I installed Windows 11, I think the only reported bug I experienced was one related to HDR. It was automatically activating Dolby Vision, which changed the desktop colors, but all I had to do was go to the menu, disable HDR, and then re-enable it. However, this was soon fixed.

I think it helps that I used WinUtil to remove any kind of bloatware from my PC. And the updates are in manual mode, so I only update every 1 or 2 months, but I've gone as long as 4 months without updating.

Another fact is that I only use this machine for gaming or watching videos. If I used it daily, I would probably see more problems.
 
lmimmfn said:
My work laptop was "Upgraded" to Windows 11, i got an email that my laptop is due for refresh, i ordered a Linux laptop.

Sums it up really.

My Gaming rig is staying on Windows 10 for the moment but thinking about moving to Linux later in the year(i don't play online)
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What did you get? System 76?
 
Unknown? said:
What did you get? System 76?
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Nah its just a regular HP laptop but with some modified corporate Linux distribution installed. Looking forward to it but migration of data/setup is always a nightmare even if same OS but new laptop.

It has 64GB ram though, ordered it as soon as i could, hopefully it wont be gimped on RAM with the shortage/cost.
 
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Wolzard said:
Since I installed Windows 11, I think the only reported bug I experienced was one related to HDR. It was automatically activating Dolby Vision, which changed the desktop colors, but all I had to do was go to the menu, disable HDR, and then re-enable it. However, this was soon fixed.

I think it helps that I used WinUtil to remove any kind of bloatware from my PC. And the updates are in manual mode, so I only update every 1 or 2 months, but I've gone as long as 4 months without updating.

Another fact is that I only use this machine for gaming or watching videos. If I used it daily, I would probably see more problems.
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Same except I am on insider preview Canary Channel. So another of those Windows problems I only hear about... 🤷‍♂️
 
turbo_blade said:
when playing games i tend to just play them and have fun so i won't notice any performance drops unless it's major. most updates, OS or gpu driver, are likely going to add performance gains/losses. as long as it's not something completely broken or performance keeps getting worse over time then i don't care.

that said, the only thing i've noticed recently is sometimes when i shut down my PC (which isn't that much) my display will sometimes not appear until the log in screen. usually i can see the bios stuff. once or twice it doesn't turn back on and i need to quickly press my PC power button which for some reason brings back the display.

everything else is "fine". nothing unsual. i'm fully up to date on everything with windows and nvidia drivers.
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I'm having the same issue with a fairly new ASUS monitor. I figured it was just a Linux bug (as that's what I'm running) but if you're getting the same issue and have similar hardware maybe it's a more hardware specific issue.
 
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Ahh PC gaming..."it's just like consoles, it just works! Plug and play. Trust me, bro!"
 
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Microsoft confirms KB5073455 breaks shutdown and hibernation on Windows 11


Microsoft has acknowledged a serious power-state regression affecting Windows 11 version 23H2 systems after the January 2026 cumulative update KB5073455. The most obvious symptom is straightforward: users select Shut down, but the PC restarts instead of powering off. While not every machine appears to be impacted, Microsoft's own documentation links the behavior to devices using Secure Launch security functionality, making this a configuration-sensitive bug rather than a universal failure. Shutdown is only one part of the problem. The same update can also interfere with sleep and hibernation, which is where things become more than an inconvenience. On laptops, unreliable sleep states can lead to a device remaining active after the lid is closed. In practical use, that can mean a notebook continues running inside a backpack with restricted airflow, increasing internal temperatures, draining the battery quickly, and potentially triggering instability. Users who rely on consistent hibernation behavior are also exposed to a more severe scenario: when the battery reaches critically low levels, the system is supposed to hibernate to protect session state. If hibernation does not trigger as expected, a hard power loss becomes more likely, and unsaved work can be lost.
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Microsoft's recommended fix is to install KB5077797, which is intended to restore normal shutdown behavior and correct the hibernation and sleep problems tied to KB5073455. For anyone running Windows 11 23H2, the practical advice is simple: if you installed the January 2026 update and now see restart-on-shutdown behavior, or if sleep and hibernation are unreliable, apply the follow-up update as soon as possible and verify that power-state transitions are working normally again.
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Tired Zzz GIF by MOODMAN

I think they need to stop using AI for developing updates...
(A sad joke...)
 
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Bojji said:
Nothing is 100% issue free:

wccftech.com

PlayStation 5 New System Software Update Finally Fixed Major VRR Issue

Besides introducing some minor documented improvements, the latest PlayStation 5 system software update also addressed a critical VRR issue.
wccftech.com wccftech.com
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It's not possible to run a problem-free OS, even when operating within a closed ecosystem with a limited number of different versions of the same hardware (and therefore less variables and unique hardware combinations). Sony had some critical bugs over the years like the VRR issue, consoles getting bricked from messages with unknown symbols or people suddenly getting their licences revoked, but overall it's a rather stable system (I still delay each firmware update just to be safe).
With Windows it's pretty much become a lottery what's going to be broken after each update and how severe the issues are going to be, it's way below the acceptable standard.
 
That's funny. I thought shutdown and hibernation were already broken, at least on my laptop. But who can keep track from one update to the next!

Seriously, I bought my W11 i7 gaming laptop with me for quick google/youtube searches last week while working on someones car. It failed so hard I put it away and used my phone instead. I used to do that with a W7 i5 laptop and the big keys and large screen is just better in that scenario -you might be wearing gloves, and can start/stop videos with the space bar. But I don't have time to wait around while 11 hangs deciding what to do. The fans always spin in my backpack and then it's thinking about updates and background shit when I just need it to start and launch a browser. It's the only PC I ever left stock from the store without installing my own OS, my fault I guess
 
Bojji said:
Vista remains the best looking Windows so far. While Windows 8.1 is the fastest and most optimized version, I miss it...
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Yeah, I actually loved Windows 8. It had a lot of excellent under the hood optimizations that were overlooked.

The interface was awful, but they had patches to restore the original Windows 7 look and once it did that I had ZERO issues with it.

Windows 11 IoT LTSC really is a halfway decent OS.
 
Bojji said:
www.pcgamer.com

GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software… I can't believe it!'

He's just like me, for real.
www.pcgamer.com www.pcgamer.com

When I was reading this I had black screen and total freeze of the system for ~20s (for real). So maybe this confirms what OP is talking about.

Edit: Just uninstalled KB5074109
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Interesting that they have such a strong posture about it but the GOG client doesn't support Linux.


I've been having issues with my computer running W11 lately as well. I've changed so much stuff in the last few weeks that I'm not sure where it's coming from. The most annoying issue is that the display driver can some times get stuck when switching HDR on or off. Sometimes it just becomes really really slow but can be fixed by restarting the display driver (or service?) via short cuts. Sometimes it just freezes entirely and has to be hard reset.
 
Funny enough I noticed the restart-shutdown bug and then applied an update.

Windows really is getting broke every week now instead of every 6 months before AI
 
memoryman3 said:
Microsoft's own documentation links the behavior to devices using Secure Launch security functionality, making this a configuration-sensitive bug rather than a universal failure.
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Do you happen to hang around at hospitals and tell the people who have had heart attacks "my heart works fine"?

"works for me" ™ is as unhelpful a statement here as it is there.
 

Windows 11 KB5074109 triggers classic Outlook freezes for POP users


Microsoft is investigating a Windows 11 regression that is causing classic Outlook to hang, lag, or become unresponsive after the January 13, 2026 cumulative update (KB5074109). The problem affects Windows 11 version 24H2 and 25H2, and it appears to hit users running classic Outlook with POP-based account profiles most frequently. For those impacted, the client can behave normally at launch, then degrade into a frozen state a few minutes later, sometimes presenting a blank white window and refusing to respond to input. A second, widely reported symptom is that Outlook may not exit cleanly when closed. Users describe shutting down the application only to find that it remains stuck in the background, preventing a normal restart. That turns a simple close-and-reopen routine into a manual troubleshooting loop, often requiring Task Manager to terminate the remaining Outlook process or, in more stubborn cases, a system reboot. This behavior is especially disruptive in office environments where Outlook is used continuously for mail, calendar, and meeting workflows.
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Message composition is also affected. If Outlook locks up while an email is being written, users can lose unsaved content and may be prompted to retype the message after the client recovers or is restarted. Even where drafts are partially retained, the interruption can break workflow and increase the risk of losing time-sensitive edits. The combination of freezing, failed restarts, and draft disruption makes the issue more than a minor annoyance for anyone who still relies on POP profiles as part of daily communication. Microsoft's current status for the issue is investigative, noting that the company is still identifying the full range of symptoms and conditions that trigger the bug.

Until a corrective update is delivered, the primary temporary workaround is to uninstall KB5074109. That approach may restore Outlook stability, but it can also remove bundled security updates, so users and administrators may need to balance reliability against patch coverage. In managed environments, a common approach is to pause or delay rollout to devices known to use POP profiles heavily, while leaving the update in place on systems not showing the regression. For now, if classic Outlook starts freezing shortly after launch, shows a white or unresponsive window, or refuses to reopen after being closed, and KB5074109 is installed, this known issue is a likely culprit. Expect more guidance once Microsoft completes its investigation and issues an updated fix through Windows Update.
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Windows updates have become so bad, it can crash other Microsoft apps.
The lack of quality control and vibe coding with AI, has made Windows a minefield.
 
geary said:
Is that more of a driver issue? I don't think MS can be responsible for every app/driver to run the same when an update comes. It's more on the vendor service part to update their apps based on the new Windows patch.

Is like saying Linux is at fault the games are not working fine on it when an update gets out.

I understand the hate for MS, but aint their fault for everything in the world.
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The majority of windows PCs for gamers and designers have NVidia GPUs. It is absolutely on them to get this right even if they have to work with Nvidia to get the drivers updated to launch at the same time or prior to the update.

That said, these things are probably user dependent as I can't see this being a universal problem because of the above. No way they don't have basic gaming performance tests in their update verification/validation process.

I didn't notice any issues on my end. Maybe user is running old drivers because they are too impatient to wait to update shaders or maybe it is confined to the specific game they are playing.

Honestly I have not experienced any gaming related Windows 11 problems that I see people whining about online. I have done PC gaming since DOS/ Windows 3 so my tolerance is high.
 
KungFucius said:
The majority of windows PCs for gamers and designers have NVidia GPUs. It is absolutely on them to get this right even if they have to work with Nvidia to get the drivers updated to launch at the same time or prior to the update.

That said, these things are probably user dependent as I can't see this being a universal problem because of the above. No way they don't have basic gaming performance tests in their update verification/validation process.

I didn't notice any issues on my end. Maybe user is running old drivers because they are too impatient to wait to update shaders or maybe it is confined to the specific game they are playing.

Honestly I have not experienced any gaming related Windows 11 problems that I see people whining about online. I have done PC gaming since DOS/ Windows 3 so my tolerance is high.
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It's really not MS's job to assist Nvidia or any other big corporation for every driver release. There's documentation on interactions with Windows, so if it follows those guidelines and still has an issue it's an MS issue otherwise it's on the driver.

There's been occasions where a driver has used undocumented features and fallen over on a patch to close that, but normally I'd hope MS does communicate those in advance (it definitely has done that with the SMTP changes coming this year).
 
What's an easy way to check if you're on the latest version? My PC doesn't meet the hardware security requirements so I had installed the update from 10 with some bypass method and the software was fine after that part and received updates from Windows Update etc. and didn't nag you or anything but just recently I discovered (because it finally nagged me saying this version of WIndows 11 will no longer be supported with security updates or some shit, otherwise I'd still be clueless if they decided to hide that nag from people who don't meet the hardware requirements of Windows 11 even if they're actually on it) I was actually years behind in updates because some of the major ones also had their own security hardware check again even if you've already installed WIndows 11 but didn't actually notify you of anything so you thought you were receiving all available updates from Windows Update but actually weren't getting those major revisions. I used a new bypass method for that again and have been up to date since but always wonder when the next update it will automatically not only fail to get automatically but also hide from me on top will release, lol.​
 
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Exclusive reactions straight from Microsoft headquarters dispelling the myth that Windows update break the OS every goddamn month

 
DeepEnigma said:
It's about their shit updates breaking shit. Your point?

If it's not one thing it's another with them.
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The point is, the "works for me" people in this thread are talking about the OP, so you pulling them into fixes for completely unrelated stuff is a stretch.
 
RafterXL said:
The point is, the "works for me" people in this thread are talking about the OP, so you pulling them into fixes for completely unrelated stuff is a stretch.
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They say that to every update that doesn't work for everyone. :rolleyes:

Just shows how shit Win 11 and their enterprise updates being pushed onto the public for "testing." This is a common occurrence from them.
 
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