Yeah. Most of my friends never heard of the game before I mentioned it, even though a lot of them do play videogames.
Witcher 3 Collector's Edition getting exclusive physical content on XB1 [CDP Comment]
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Yeah. Most of my friends never heard of the game before I mentioned it, even though a lot of them do play videogames.
Fuz
Banned
Maybe because...
I'm pretty sure 90% of the people who said that "they're ok with it", "they're only 2 items", "who cares, it's just useless junk" and "better than in game content" are not people who are buying the CE (or have an xbox).
Do people understand the meaning of the word "collector" (as in: Collector's Edition)? I kinda doubt that, now.
GitarooMan
Member
I love that statement they put out. People need to get a grip.
You know what is the same price on two different platforms but not have equal? Destiny. I didn't see the fucking outcry about that.
Saintguine
Member
I'm a bit miffed but it's not in-game content that's being cut out so it's not as big of a deal. I guess it just means I'm not getting the incomplete collector's edition really.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
I can't believe people are upset about some lousy cards and a cloth map that shouldn't even exist in the first place. Retailer / platform / pre-order specific DLC would be much worse.
That said, I hope they are putting more resources into the PS4 version of the game than the Xbone.
That said, I hope they are putting more resources into the PS4 version of the game than the Xbone.
Hawk269
Member
Agree, people just to chill out, especially the OP. He/She is the one that had to add the comment about Tomb Raider and trying to lump this with that is basically adding to the fire. He could of just posted the information since it is news worthy, but you can tell by the comments within the OP that his intent was to stir the pot.
Recent statements from 4A Games and CDPR regarding spurious backlash have been way more detailed, reasonable, and respectful than they needed to be. Just when I thought this week wouldn't see a more feigned outrage than the huge project of Metro Redux not being free, people start sounding off over a fucking DECK OF CARDS. As though it's somehow not a better alternative for the gamer than slicing off in-game content for different platforms. Good on CDPR for the maturity.
Saintguine
Member
A collector's edition is all about those trinkets. It's not a deal breaker but of course people who are shelling out $150 have a right to be annoyed that they're getting an incomplete collector's edition.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
So basically this confirms that people will cry over anything.
Lord almighty.
Wish CD Projekt replied with a dealwithit gif.
Lord almighty.
Wish CD Projekt replied with a dealwithit gif.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Uh, those are feelies, I don't know what y'all are talking about...
Yeah but CDPR didn't announce a $150 edition for all platforms that included these items and then post initial preorders carve out the cards and map from all editions except the Xbox One. They announced collectors editions that people were already excited about spending money on, and then announced these extra tchotchkes as a bonus for one of the platforms. I really dislike bandying the phrase "gamer entitlement" around, but it's the only way I know to describe feeling like something was stolen from you when you never knew about or expected to get it in the first place.
That statement is weird. We put gamers first but will do things to support our partners even if it screws over some people. Probably should have worded it a little better. Really they should have just never said anything about all copies being equal even if they were only talking about the game.
Ascenion
Member
I still fail to see how that is worse. At least in most cases if you want that stuff it comes to every platform at some point usually after a few months. The map and cards likely won't ever be produced again and eBay is never a cheap option for this stuff in my experience. Not excusing exclusive dlc just saying imo it isn't near as bad.
Using this phrase in this context robs it of almost any actual meaning. Collectors editions for all platforms were announced MONTHS AGO, and I don't remember post after post going "Yeah this looks like a decent value, but where the fuck are my Gwent cards CDPR?!?! As IF I'm going to let you screw me over by buying this shit!".
Exploratory
Banned
Truly a mystery for the ages.
Edit: Also I'd like to add that a company that makes its game DRM free is the last games company we should be piling on.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
First they get the exclusive 900p edition, now this. Enjoy that sack of money CDP.
Saintguine
Member
It's still exclusive content that was not included in other editions.
And I like how you talk about gamer entitlement when these people are shelling out more than double the standard retail cost.
Eh, when good intentions and market realities collide and the only casualty is some shitty swag that no one ever really wanted in the first place, I just can't get too worked up.
And if you really, really care about that swag, buy the X1 version and then get the PC version for $5 when the next Steam sale rolls around.
And if you really, really care about that swag, buy the X1 version and then get the PC version for $5 when the next Steam sale rolls around.
More power to them, but it's completely irrelevant to my point how much they're spending. It could be $500. The point is that if they didn't know it existed before (and if they're a big Witcher fan then they've certainly known the established content of these special editions for quite a while) then they were already prepared to spend $X on the edition that was announced without these extra items.
The only possible scenario where it would not be asinine to be upset would be if someone put actual money down to preorder on Ps4/PC, expecting these physical trinkets because they were advertised to be included in every copy, and then after the fact the publisher removed them from every version except XB1. That's not what happened.
I'll acknowledge the point about CDPR saying "all versions of the game will be content identical" (paraphrased), except... A) "Content" is the context of that statement is industry shorthand for "Retailer/Platform exclusive DLC" whether it's actually downloaded or just activated on disc. B) "Versions of the game" is acceptable shorthand for the GAME itself, since they/we are including the digital version when we are talking about "all versions" which obviously cannot include physical items.
I am gonna go out on a limb that people spending 130 are collectors and wanting to get their hands on all they can associated with the game. Now some can't (including their PC base) and those collectors are gonna be mad. Cause their collectors edition isn't going to be "complete."
They already pre ordered for that ce and were happy with what they were getting. Now those same buyers find out xbox owners get some additional items and it's now a bad deal? No
Everyone upset in this thread should be outraged over Destiny and yet there isn't even a thread. Pretty hypocritical and reveals a silent agenda that it's ok to do it as long as you have the console it benefits. Well if that's the case buy an x1 and stop complaining.
Really now? A deck of cards and map are now a slap in the face to ps4 owners.
Meh. This isn't exclusive game content so in not terribly bothered. I doubt this is doing MS any favors after the Tomb Raider PR nightmare though. Pretty much just proves they are going to continue buying out exclusive shit in 3rd party content. Hooray for that "added value" guys! *sigh*
CDPRs statement is rock solid though. No qualms about how they handled this at all.
CDPRs statement is rock solid though. No qualms about how they handled this at all.
So the cards and new map were not part of the original Collectors editions? If no, then what is the complaint? MS added something to their version. It did not take something away from the others.
Dragonborn
Member
Their response is pretty good, seems fair enough. It's not like it'd matter much, if I do end up biting on this edition it'll be mostly for the statue, not anything else.
HORRORSHØW
Member
yeah, a world of good that did microsoft. what the fuck is wrong with some of you people?
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Never buy Coillector's Edition's anyway.
Means very little to me.
I just want the game itself.
Means very little to me.
I just want the game itself.
Yoda
Member
I realize this is a rather small difference, but its more the principle of the matter that bothers me. I have the PC collector's edition pre-ordered but most likely will cancel it now. Charging me the same amount for a different platform and then making of the packages "superior" seriously rubs me the wrong way. It's not like they aren't making a gigantic profit off those of us who are shelling out for the collectors edition; yet they decide to pull this slight anyway. Will most likely just get the regular steam version instead.
reptilescorpio
Member
That isn't a silent agenda, that's called being a consumer.
"shit, I don't have access to that stuff I want? lame"
It's more obvious with X1 exclusive stuff because more people own a PS4 than an X1!
ebullientprism
Member
Yep. Cant believe they actually replied to all the whiners.
A really good example of the Internet being the Internet. People want to feel slighted against.
Fine by me.
ArkkAngel007
Member
Sure, it's disappointing, but it's far more preferable to game content being compromised in any shape or form.
And I don't recall these items being in the original CEs, so it's not like we're getting sucker punched from a shitty 'lock-out' agreement.
I understand fighting the good fight, but folks need to pick their battles.
Also, that candid response from CDPR should be thing Microsoft takes the most from in this partnership. This is how you speak to your customers. Not the shit from May and June 2013 or with RotTR this past week.
Have you joined after that announcement was made? Because a simple search with the search tool on here will demonstrate how big of a deal that was.
And I don't recall these items being in the original CEs, so it's not like we're getting sucker punched from a shitty 'lock-out' agreement.
I understand fighting the good fight, but folks need to pick their battles.
Also, that candid response from CDPR should be thing Microsoft takes the most from in this partnership. This is how you speak to your customers. Not the shit from May and June 2013 or with RotTR this past week.
Have you joined after that announcement was made? Because a simple search with the search tool on here will demonstrate how big of a deal that was.
Really don't see the big deal and I'm getting the PS4 version. This sometimes can't be helped, game development is a business for these companies and they need to do what they think is best so they can continue building us these great games.
Wait, what?
Wait, what?
reptilescorpio
Member
Destiny has exclusive DLC, map, strike, etc due to Sony putting up cash for marketing/etc.
soul creator
Member
They're technically going against their anti-DRM stance by porting it to any modern console. The "DRM" just now exists in the form of "this disc needs to be inserted into the console to prove to us you own the game and that only one person at a time can play it"
After all, both PS4/XB1 install the full games to a hard drive, and the disc isn't actually needed for any technical reasons related to running the game. Of course, I'm being slightly facetious, but I do think it's kinda interesting to think about. On PC, I can copy the game to 10 different PC's and 10 different people can play it simultaneously. On console, only 1 system at any given time can play it, even if it's installed on 10 different consoles. The DRM-check is now the insertion of a plastic disc, instead of an internet check, lol.
Dragonborn
Member
Sony too? And did you miss the huge thread about that very issue?
That's not what KageMaru meant, he meant what rock was that guy living under where he didn't hear the outrage about Sony exclusive DLC for Destiny.
They're technically going against their anti-DRM stance by porting it to any modern console. The "DRM" just now exists in the form of "this disc needs to be inserted into the console to prove to us you own the game and that only one person at a time can play it"
After all, both PS4/XB1 install the full games to a hard drive, and the disc isn't actually needed for any technical reasons related to running the game. Of course, I'm being slightly facetious, but I do think it's kinda interesting to think about. On PC, I can copy the game to 10 different PC's and 10 different people can play it simultaneously. On console, only 1 system at any given time can play it, even if it's installed on 10 different consoles. The DRM-check is now the insertion of a plastic disc, instead of an internet check, lol.
The downward spiral of CDPR's betrayal of their own values continues.
reptilescorpio
Member
Oh okay, misread that sorry lol
Heh the funny thing is they have been showcasing and aligning themselves with X1 since early last year, even when the console was meant to be only-online!
Hard to avoid DRM though when you want to reach the masses.
Heh the funny thing is they have been showcasing and aligning themselves with X1 since early last year, even when the console was meant to be only-online!
Hard to avoid DRM though when you want to reach the masses.
EdwardTeach
Member
I am not super bothered and can see why they did this. Can't see why anyone would go for the ce education on other platforms now though.
qa_engineer
Member
Not sure what the fuss is about. Relax.
GreatMightySymp
Member
I don't get the MS hate about this. The items wouldn't have existed if MS hadn't paid for them to be included, it's not like that announced it in the CE beforehand and then removed it later.
shacklesmcgee
Member
Thought this was an interesting quote, from back in May
I wonder if there were rumors or talk about TR already
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/05/20/the-witcher-3-wont-have-platform-exclusive-content
I wonder if there were rumors or talk about TR already
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/05/20/the-witcher-3-wont-have-platform-exclusive-content
reptilescorpio
Member
If they don't want/care about the map and cards it's still a good CE. Problem is most of the people buying a classic style eRPG are used to buying special editions for cloth maps for decades now lol, now that I know it exists I really want it. A hell of a lot more than a statue.
Dragonborn
Member
I have my doubts that SE were the first publisher MS approached with an offer. They've probably been shopping around. Still, I see nothing wrong with this particular case.
PC games with DRM add obtrusive content protection to a platform that has offered game experiences without content protection before, whereas when a company (Microsoft) launches their own new platform it's their own prerogative to give whatever attributes they want to it, which CDPR obviously understood and accepted. PCs have been and should be an open platform, whereas there is no implicit openness on any console... publishers have to pay licensing fees for the privilege of getting their game on there.
That's 100% fair to say, but the problem with other people complaining is that they had already resigned to not getting one with The Witcher 3, period.