It's because of Star Trek Beyond. They unleashed some kind of curse sending that movie out to die the way they did.
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Wkd BO 0915-1717 - Assassin and mother! clowned, lack "IT" factor
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Plasticine
Member
Wait. Did he do a 180 on Carol in the comics? Or just the movie?
I guess Paranoamount is still in effect.
LordOfLore
Banned
Movie.
Black Republican
Member
He didnt like the Carol character, period. The movie lol
ALways been hyped for Thor, Always rolled my eyes at the Thor 2 memes
I love me some skrulls(they are the poor man's dire wraiths), if Carol is the vehicle they need to be delievered on, then by god Marvel do your thing.
I would never eat crow on MCU Carol, because she would be Carol in name only if she was any good
Lights and Waves
Member
The box office numbers... 💀
Whatever stanbase JLAW had is completely gone now. This is why you need to have social media as a celebrity these days.
Whatever stanbase JLAW had is completely gone now. This is why you need to have social media as a celebrity these days.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Plasticine
Member
Well, the movie Carol will be an entirely different character. But still. A man should have the courage of his convictions. This feels like a sell-out.
Black Republican
Member
Not that it woulda mattered, surprised they didnt release IT just before Halloween.
LFMartins86
Member
Already too much competition there. It wouldn't be as big as it was.
The Human Spider just keeps on going
PhoncipleBone
Banned
He was always on the Thor train.
Xamtheking
Member
Dude next week is gonna be lit
Kingsman and Lego Ninjago are probably gonna be fun
Kingsman and Lego Ninjago are probably gonna be fun
Galactic Specter
Member
Wow, IT is doing way better than any of the Conjuring movies, I wonder how its success is going to influence future horror movies from WB/New Line.
IT doesn't lend itself to a franchise past two movies so more King adaptions are a safe bet.
IT doesn't lend itself to a franchise past two movies so more King adaptions are a safe bet.
LordOfLore
Banned
Think King has talked about doing movies with New Line/WB using the rights he got back a few months ago.
BR2049 posters.
The Stand is sure to be next. From one huge SK book to another.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Wasn't Affleck and then Yates attached to direct that over the years?
And The Stand would work best as a few films or a cable mini series.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
ryutaro's mama
Member
And Sony trying to ruin all that goodwill with fuckery.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Please. Freeform will adapt The Stand since they won't be doing Divergent.
BattleMonkey
Member
Really doubt anything is gonna match IT.
Pennywise is a horror icon, he/it gives the movie a huge push that any other King adaptation is gonna be lacking. Creepy clowns are popular and Pennywise is a draw that wont be matched.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Does Danzig's song play at all during Mother!?
PhoncipleBone
Banned
There is no music.
FAX has been pretty solid, though
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Missed opportunity.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Yup. It is just Stand by Me with clowns. Though any remake has a much steeper hill to climb than It did
Unlike IT and The Stand, there is nothing to improve on the original Stand By Me. Which means it's for sure coming next then.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Nothing would make me happier than Disaster Artist receiving a Best Picture nom.
Tommy Wiseau deserves this.
Tommy Wiseau deserves this.
mugurumakensei
Member
I think WB/New Line could do well with other properties provided the movies are well-made. Nothing will be the Lightning in a bottle of IT though. IT had 80s nostalgia, a good movie, Pennywise being iconic, and released at a time when both R rated films and horror films are trending upward.
Galactic Specter
Member
That would be incredibly redundant after IT shifted the time period up to the 1980s/2010s. Plus, Stand By Me is already a great movie that stands alongside the Shawshank Redemption as some of the best Stephen King movies.
Future King adaptions should look to his works that haven't gone a proper film adaption like the Stand.
This is Paramount's punishment for approving of the "Sabotage" scene
What other scene from the movie stood out to you?
MHWilliams
Member
There was no real marketing that was going to get Mother to an opening that would justify its budget.
The WOM backlash is because marketing offered one version of the film and it's something completely different, but there's no way to get across what it is and still put butts in seats.
It's simply not that kind of film. It's another The Fountain: budget too high for a film that's pure arthouse and will probably have a cult following for years to come. It'll make slightly more it seem, for slightly less of a budget. Neon Demon was the same way.
Like folks are talking about "new", but Mother! is more "different". Hollywood makes new films all the time. Moonlight did $65 million. Arrival, Hunt for the Wilderpeople, Hail, Caesar!, 10 Cloverfield Lane, It Comes at Night, Ex Machina, and Room all made money off the top of my head. All were films with some original ideas or presentation.
Films like Mother (and Neon Demon) probably should go the route of something like Okja, running on Netflix or Amazon Instant, where folks are more open to experimental projects.
But no, Mother's poor box office performance doesn't really mean anything for audiences, anymore than it's uneven critical reception does. Not everyone wants to see an allegory for either Christian myth or the process of creation, no matter how well acted it is.
You know they highfived each other in the writing room after that scene
Somebody should do a study on disappointment at the theater vs tv/streaming. 20 bucks on something you think is some old bullshit is going to sting and made you talk more about it me thinks
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Mother pretty much seems like the last Lawrence flop, Passengers, in that it should've been a smaller movie with less star power, a smaller budget, and yeah maybe even a different distribution model. When people complain about the death of the mid-budget Hollywood film, this feels like why those are hard to make.
1. Star Wars
2. Beauty & The Beast
3. Justice League ($430m)
4. Wonder Woman
5. Guardians Of the Galaxy
6. Thor ($350m)
7. Spiderman ($340m)
8. IT ($320m)
9. Despicable Me
10. Logan.
BattleMonkey
Member
Nothing really wrong with that scene, but using it as the main feature of their all action packed trailer, was very off putting. The marketing for Beyond was so not Trek
MILF.
Mother I'd like to
.
I'm actually eager to see the film and while Paramount should deserve some kudos for making mother they equally deserve scorn for the price that they paid for what was a always going to be a niche title.
I believe that Warners had the rights to It dating all the way back to the TV movie/mini-series so there was never a 'fight' for them, they were always in the studio's possession.
Mother I'd like to
see flop
I'm actually eager to see the film and while Paramount should deserve some kudos for making mother they equally deserve scorn for the price that they paid for what was a always going to be a niche title.
I believe that Warners had the rights to It dating all the way back to the TV movie/mini-series so there was never a 'fight' for them, they were always in the studio's possession.