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Wkd BO 1104-0616 - Strange Doctor trolls (ex-)Spider-man
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Dang. You beat me to it!
lightskintwin
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I don't think that's going to matter as you much as you think it will due to the genre it's in and the brand attached.
Infact, I think the quality of the film itself will have more of an impact than it's predominately Black cast.
Obliterator
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Eh I really don't think domestic will be an issue. There isn't a whole lot of supporting evidence that domestically having heavily black representation is causing much issue anymore. Luke Cage seemed to do plenty well, Straight Outta Compton, the Madea movies, and in gaming you have massive franchises like Watch Dogs and Battlefield having Black lead characters right on the cover art.
International though that could be a bit of an issue I suppose. I'm not sure what things look like on that front. But at the end of the day putting BP in Civil War was a brilliant move because he seemed to generate a lot of buzz and interest.
You're telling me Red Tails did poorly because it was bad and not because it had a mostly black cast?
lightskintwin
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LOL Not gonna lie, it's reviews kept me from watching it thus far. How bad is Red Tails and is it even worth watching?
"Story by George Lucas" isn't a selling point these days.
Put a short Captain America cameo in, let him appear Alongside Black Panther in the Aftercreditscene
, problem solved.
They shouldnt focus the Marketing on Steve Rogers of course, but I am sure that would bring people in who wouldnt go otherwise. Makes even sense storywise.
Doctor Strange style
They shouldnt focus the Marketing on Steve Rogers of course, but I am sure that would bring people in who wouldnt go otherwise. Makes even sense storywise.
Italy's poster can have a big head shot of Steve Rogers with a little T'Chala running in the foreground.
I'm just thinking of when Lucas went on Oprah and said that studios didn't want it because it was an all black cast (which was probably at least partially true), but I really think they just thought it sucked.
BlackNMild2k1
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I'm hoping race and setting isn't a detterrent to the majority of population. and I'm hoping that once they get a look at how awesome of a movie it will likely be, just the fact that it's MCU and Black Panther will have them overlook any of that stuff.
But, I'm just not hopping on the "runaway success" horse just yet, as we haven't seen anything from the movie, nor the reactions to it.
I'm sure Domestically BP will be fine. I'm sure there are lots of areas that will turn out more heavily than others, but I'm sure word-of-mouth will win over lots of hold-outs.
Internationally... well, that's mostly where I think box-office may take a hit.
Will some regions give it the full screenings it has other Marvel/MCU movies? the same length of run? same marketing exposure?
We haven't seen anything about it yet, so I'm just not going to write this one off as a "guaranteed Marvel Money success" story just yet.
Which is why I said percentage-wise? Just trying to point it out since it's one of the only somewhat larger budgeted films in a recent memory with a primarily black cast.
Agreed. It's the only example I could think of that could help.
Subpar Spatula
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Me too. But seeing Joaquin's choices in roles, he would have regretted being in this.
My friend wanted me to go and he said he wanted to go to Doctor Stranger and I was like yeah ok I'll go, I guess because I had no expectations is why I really loved the film.
When that old man showed up, Stan Lee? I said to myself: hey that's the Spider Man guy! Is this a Marvel movie?
Gentleman Jack
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Damn.
Obliterator
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Yeah Internationally there does seem to be some race issues regarding media, just going by the way some Official Posters are framed where black actors are made less prominent. Hopefully it won't hurt it overseas
CharminUltra
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Saw Inferno, Hacksaw, and Strange over the weekend. Strange was easily the movie I enjoyed the most out of those three (not to mention the smartest one IMO.) Well deserved.
I really can't wait to see it. I've heard great things.
Add in some Method Man in the background and this could easily be a Luke Cage episode.
lightskintwin
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I understand why you used it, it's just isn't a very good comparison in this instance. LOL
lightskintwin
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LOL I think in this day and age, International audiences are more interested in movies about America's racism than Americans are.
Look how they've promoted Hidden Figures.
Here's the American trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK8xHq6dfAo
And Here's the International trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLETpnWS8vQ
Notice how the American trailer doesn't even touch on any of the racism, why the International trailer puts an emphasis on it.
BronsonLee
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Yeah you can't make me watch slavery films unless they end in Jamie Foxx just shooting everyone inexplicably
Jesus christ m8
Jesus christ m8
Jeffolation
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Nice to see an oddball mid budgeted film like The Accountant have some legs. Also assuming that Inferno underperforming has to do with the fact that most of the fans of the first two films have simply passed on at this point.
xaosslug
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Tyler Perry's Black Panther w/ a Madea cameo. And we're done. It prints money. ;P
really, tho. I think BP's gonna be huge. Peeps came out of Civil War either talking about BP or Spiderman.
You could sell me on a lot of movies if they ended with Jamie Foxx just shooting everyone.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Disappointed by Mads and McAdams (and not her fault for having to play a paper thin character)
But Sherlock and Tilda killed it.
But Sherlock and Tilda killed it.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Go Madea!
Great openings for both Doctor Strange & Trolls.
Great openings for both Doctor Strange & Trolls.
BlackNMild2k1
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I wanna believe, but there is a big difference between BP being in a Cap movie, and BP starring in an All Black movie.
I'm just hoping the movie is as awesome as we all hope it will be, and that all audiences turn out for it because it is. International marketing will be quite interesting though.
I'm guessing BP always has his mask on certain overseas marketing.
Cap & Bucky will probably both be on the poster even though not technically in the movie.
MHWilliams
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If Fox could make a good X-Men film, they wouldn't change.
Guess we're getting an Ouija 3. Good job, Flanagan.
People are willing to forgive and Gibson has done his years of penance.
lightskintwin
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Bruh, you're getting way too bogged down on it having a predominately Black cast rather than the type of film it is. Audiences aren't going to look at it like that, but instead see it as simply a big budget Marvel superhero film, and if it get's good to great reviews; all the more reason to see it. If anything the predominately Black cast will make it stand out more within Marvel's catalogue and perhaps interest people who otherwise wouldn't be interested due to the novelty of it.
Imperial Bishop
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You mean the Marvel Studios intro didn't tip you off at all?
On that note...
Method Man will be the Stan Lee for Black superhero movies.
BlackNMild2k1
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Yeah, the optimist in me hopes for that, but the realist in me thinks it won't come that easy.
I can't even imagine how they cameo Meth into BP, unless it's a Wakandan youth bumping Meth's latest Luke Cage appreciation music video on BET interrupted by his mom trying to call him in the kitchen for dinner.
a Master Ninja
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Joke post?
Wut
valkillmore
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Still need to see Boo. I like Tyler Perry. And while I generally don't like Halloween or Halloween films, I'll make an exception for this one.
When Everett Ross gets jacked for his pants Method Man can be in the backgroud.
Sad Affleck
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Did superhero fatigue happen yet?
ElBoxyBrown
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This is a situation where it could have been a mix of both.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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I honestly thought Strange was gonna under perform, but it is doing very well. We'll see if he skips leg days like Cap, but so far it is surprising to me. Looking forward to the upcoming MCU movies, the only ones I can see under performing at the BO are:
Ragnarok (because Thor 1 and - especially - Dark World are subpar products. I still think it's unlikely especially because the new director seems to be great and Hulk is in it)
Black Panther (people - especially overseas - might not be ready for a black superhero. And a 90% black cast too. With Creed's director at the helm though, this will be great no matter what.
Captain Marvel (unknown character and female super hero.)
GoTG2, Homecoming, Infinity War, and Avengers 2 are guaranteed hits. Ant Man 2 will probably get a healthy increase over its first movie as well.
X-Men under Feige and co would be competing with Avengers at the BO IMO. Under Fox it competes against Marvel's lesser known characters that they are trying to bring to the mainstream.
Ragnarok (because Thor 1 and - especially - Dark World are subpar products. I still think it's unlikely especially because the new director seems to be great and Hulk is in it)
Black Panther (people - especially overseas - might not be ready for a black superhero. And a 90% black cast too. With Creed's director at the helm though, this will be great no matter what.
Captain Marvel (unknown character and female super hero.)
GoTG2, Homecoming, Infinity War, and Avengers 2 are guaranteed hits. Ant Man 2 will probably get a healthy increase over its first movie as well.
X-Men under Feige and co would be competing with Avengers at the BO IMO. Under Fox it competes against Marvel's lesser known characters that they are trying to bring to the mainstream.
I was drinking a mountain dew slushe (second mountatin dew drink ever) for the first time so I was in a bit of zone with myself.
No. I really just went with my friends because they always bug me that I don't go to the movies with them.
Me too, not awful but not exactly great. Tough competition though.
The Real Napsta
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He sounded exactly like House.
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