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Woke era Stephen King absolutely stinks

BennyBlanco

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Let me preface by saying he has become one of my favorite authors the last few years. The Stand, The Dark Tower, Pet Sematary, It, The Green Mile. I like his short stories even better. He's undoubtedly one of the best authors of the modern era. I follow him on twitter and know he has really gotten into talking about politics the last few years. Whatever, that is his prerogative and I don't care. I can separate the art from the artist no problem.

Which brings me to this pile of shit:

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I needed something to listen to on my commute and saw this pop up in my recommendations on Spotify. Came out in 2023. Alright Stephen let's hear it.

Holy shit. Just in the first few hours:

- black kid murdered by police senselessly. Long diatribes about this.
- protag's mom is a trump supporter who refuses to take a Covid vaccine and dies.
- antagonists are evil white bigots
- gay Latin man victim
- gay, vegan, black woman victim
- long diatribes about name brand vaccines. Everyone is constantly saying which shots they got.
- a trailer park where the owner tells the protag Covid is a hoax.
- diatribes about climate change.

At this point at the trailer park when a woman knitting a sweater started talking about climate change I decided to tap out. Is he trying to get a job writing videogames or something? Absolutely embarrassing.

It feels so hamfisted and amateurish. If the book was good I would keep going but it's so slow. And to be clear I would feel the exact same way if he was shoehorning Ben Shapiro talking points into his books. It honestly made me sad because he was so incredibly good in the past. Is all of his modern stuff like this?
 
He's so over the top vocal about woke politics that it gives off the "extremely homophobic Baptist preacher who's actually a total flamer behind closed doors" vibe.
 
Honestly this has infecting basically all of modern fiction. You don't get published if you don't pet the kitty. That is why I don't read anything new anymore.
 
I haven't read many of his more recent books, but The Institute was really good and I've heard that 11/22/63 is one of his best.
 
Yikes

I'm so tired of woke culture. It's a shame because yes of course he's in general one of the best of all time but just reading that list, I'm not going to bother lifting a finger for this bullshit other than the middle one.
 
Dude's been clowning around on X for such a long time that I can't take this fucking guy serious anymore and I will never read another Stephen King novel.

Hot take: dude always was very overrated.
 
isn't about 8/10 of that woke list stuff that showed up regularly in his past works anyway?

I think i just roll my eyes at anything covid commentary related in any kind of writing. That part is definitely dumb.
 
He has to gather some brownie points for goodwill in case he shows up on a certain client list

Honestly this has infecting basically all of modern fiction. You don't get published if you don't pet the kitty. That is why I don't read anything new anymore.

I think there are still good books to be found. But yeah the more mainstream world of fiction is absolutely infested with this stuff.
The latest winner of the Hugo Award that was once given to classics like Dune and Hyperion is a self proclaimed "queer space opera".
Even Brandon Sanderson, who you'd think is influential enough to get published regardless, started leaning more heavily into these themes with the latest Stormlight archive book.
 
King did his best writing when he was drunk out of his mind and high on cocaine.

Some of his sober work was fine but it's been a downward slide since he got hit by the car and it's gotten worse over the past decade or so.
 
So I have never had a Twitter account and don't pay much attention to it. I know SK has been a douche on there for a while, but I hadn't heard that it was bleeding into his writing.

I was a huge fan as a kid and younger adult. I pretty much read all of his work up to about 2004 when he finished The Dark Tower. I've read the first half of Under the Dome, but couldn't sustain interest enough to finish it. I also read Doctor Sleep, which was okay. Is there a real line in the sand where his stuff went to shit with a wokeness message, or is it just this one novel?
 
Let me preface by saying he has become one of my favorite authors the last few years. The Stand, The Dark Tower, Pet Sematary, It, The Green Mile. I like his short stories even better. He's undoubtedly one of the best authors of the modern era. I follow him on twitter and know he has really gotten into talking about politics the last few years. Whatever, that is his prerogative and I don't care. I can separate the art from the artist no problem.

Which brings me to this pile of shit:

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I needed something to listen to on my commute and saw this pop up in my recommendations on Spotify. Came out in 2023. Alright Stephen let's hear it.

Holy shit. Just in the first few hours:

- black kid murdered by police senselessly. Long diatribes about this.
- protag's mom is a trump supporter who refuses to take a Covid vaccine and dies.
- antagonists are evil white bigots
- gay Latin man victim
- gay, vegan, black woman victim
- long diatribes about name brand vaccines. Everyone is constantly saying which shots they got.
- a trailer park where the owner tells the protag Covid is a hoax.
- diatribes about climate change.

At this point at the trailer park when a woman knitting a sweater started talking about climate change I decided to tap out. Is he trying to get a job writing videogames or something? Absolutely embarrassing.

It feels so hamfisted and amateurish. If the book was good I would keep going but it's so slow. And to be clear I would feel the exact same way if he was shoehorning Ben Shapiro talking points into his books. It honestly made me sad because he was so incredibly good in the past. Is all of his modern stuff like this?
He once said in an interview his favorite subject was Pulp Culture soooo....yeah I think he indulged himself in it too much. Too much of an urge to see himself aligned with the majority thought or (what he thinks the majority thinks.) Hes so desperate to not become outdated and to stay hip. Sad really.
 
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Dude wrote a book in 1986 where 11 year old boys run a train on an 11 year old girl and everyone just kinda shrugged it off and pretends that never happened.
 
He used to be more subtle about it. Made the story about the people rather than ideology. Back during the AIDS pandemic, I remember in "It" he had a a couple of gay dudes who got beat up and killed by the local good ol' boys. But there was no preaching. he just told the story.

I think the internet messed him up. He's a boomer, literally. He was young during Vietnam war. That generation can't handle the internet.
 
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I'm normally 'separate the art from the artists' but when people want to harm my kids I can't manage it. Won't read a thing from him.
 
He has to gather some brownie points for goodwill in case he shows up on a certain client list



I think there are still good books to be found. But yeah the more mainstream world of fiction is absolutely infested with this stuff.
The latest winner of the Hugo Award that was once given to classics like Dune and Hyperion is a self proclaimed "queer space opera".
Even Brandon Sanderson, who you'd think is influential enough to get published regardless, started leaning more heavily into these themes with the latest Stormlight archive book.
Just finished the first 2 hyperion books this summer finally and was kicking myself that I didn't read them earlier. I liked the first 2 stormlight books as well but didn't read the series after that.

I think the general consensus is Holly sucks. I think a lot of people were turned off by it.

Its interesting to look at kings life in totality and how he has written child orgies in It been blasted out of his mind on coke to being preachy about vaccines in a book published 2 years ago.

NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt and I have talked about king several times so they might know more about his more recent work Benny. I haven't read any if his recent stuff
 
I haven't read many of his more recent books, but The Institute was really good and I've heard that 11/22/63 is one of his best.

I loved Stephen King back in the 80ies and 90ies, must have read almost everything he'd written but I stopped reading him in the mid nineties. King had become an alcoholic and the quality of his books dropped and got even worse after his accdident. I'd given up on hum but when 11/22/63 got rave reviews, I picked it up and it turned out to be one of his best books. I then read a few more really good books (Joyland, Mr. Mercedes and The Institute)

Shame that the mind virus now got him. It doesn't surprise me though, King is a raving lunatic on Twitter.
 
Honestly this has infecting basically all of modern fiction. You don't get published if you don't pet the kitty. That is why I don't read anything new anymore.

I really only read something now if someone I know recommends it to me. It's why I listened to all 7 Dungeon Crawler Carl books on audible. Would've assumed they were trash but got recommended to me by a friend who knows what I like and he was spot fuckin on.

I won't buy anything blind now though. Not a chance.
 
You should see Stephen King Twitter posts. The man has gone so insane it's breathtaking to witness. When I see what he writes on social media these days I understand why people call wokeness a "mind virus"
 
Just finished the first 2 hyperion books this summer finally and was kicking myself that I didn't read them earlier.
Dan Simmons is based and one of the best scifi and horror authors of all time. Pretty much everything by him is good.

Robert McCammon is also amazing for horror and historical fiction.

James Ellroy too.

For decent scifi and space opera, I really like Peter F. Hamilton, but be prepared - his books are LOOOOONG.
 
I watched the 11/22/63 TV series with my wife and hated it with a passion. Absolutely awful IMO.

It felt like stepping into the deteriorating mind of a certain kind of boomer who built a who alternative history in his head, but where every character is loudly telegraphed as being good or bad based on his brand of 1960s-ism.

Maybe the book isn't as terrible.
 
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This is who King is. Starting from Carrie's mom being the stereotype of a hypocritical christian conservative type. The subject matter may have changed w/ the times, but he seems pretty consistent. I recall the Long Walk also having a tragic black character who only existed to be the victim of racism.
 
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I watched the 11/22/63 TV series with my wife and hated it with a passion. Absolutely awful IMO.

It felt like stepping into the deteriorating mind of a certain kind of boomer who built a who alternative history in his head, but where every character is loudly telegraphed as being good or bad based on his brand of 1960s-ism.

Maybe the book isn't as terrible.
I tried to read the book and just couldn't get through it. I don't like time-travel stories to begin with and the JFK element just killed it for me. Not to say that all JFK related fiction is bad - I really liked American Tabloid by Ellroy, but then again, Ellroy didn't try to make JFK into a saviour. Given the main characters in American Tabloid, JFK is the "bad guy"

And I think you hit the bullseye regarding the tone of the book/mini-series. It's like King built this alternative history in his head that JFK could have "saved us all" had he lived.
 
Well, i also separate the art from the artist but only as long as the artist himself separates his art from his current day politics.
 
Fully agree, I've been reading King since the mid 80's but after Holly I won't be checking out any more of his new books. His writing also shows how incredibly out of touch he is. He writes teenagers like it's still the 1990's. It makes a lot of the dialogue utterly ridiculous.
 
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Honestly this has infecting basically all of modern fiction. You don't get published if you don't pet the kitty. That is why I don't read anything new anymore.
Jack Carr.

Baen books.

Galaxy's Edge.

Plenty of un-woke to rabidly anti-woke stuff out there.

Plus the indie scene is all over the place though the quality can be pretty hit or miss.
 
Just finished the first 2 hyperion books this summer finally and was kicking myself that I didn't read them earlier. I liked the first 2 stormlight books as well but didn't read the series after that.

I read the first two Hyperion books three years ago and I love both books. I might do a reread of them before I read the last two books. The first book especially is my favorite. It's Canterbury Tales meet Sci Fi. I loved each characters tale. Each one was so unique and strange. Totally gripping stuff. It's by far one of the best sci fi universe I have read

As for Stormlight, I loved all of Sanderson Cosmere books despite the flaws. But I felt that the latest Stormlight Archive book was full of woke stuff that wasn't even there before. It was obnoxious how in your face it was. He doesn't really talk politics in his RL which was a surprise when it was featured prominently. I can't stand the fanbase since they always came off as super cringe and super liberal. I just read Isle of The Emberdark last month which is his latest Cosmere book and thankfully, I haven't read anything that was obnoxiously woke. I'm still looking forward to his future Cosmere stuff but I'm kind of being more cautious about it

It's fine if that doesn't bother you, if you like the latest Stormlight Archive book more power to you

I think the general consensus is Holly sucks. I think a lot of people were turned off by it.

I was considering getting this but I wasn't sure since I heard it's more of King going into the Crime Genre. I still havent' read a lot of modern King yet. When it comes to modern stuff of his, I read The Wind Through The Keyhole, Doctor Sleep and Revival. With the exception of Revival, I loved the other two books I mentioned. Revival was just good

When it comes to modern King, I want to read Fairy Tale, The Outsider, The Institute, You Like It Darker, 11/22/63, The BIll Hodge Trilogy, and Under The Dome. There was one book of his I do regret buying despite not reading it yet that's more modern King and that's Sleeping Beauties, once I heard how bad and agenda driven the plot was, I decided not to read it. So Holly is a skip for me

Its interesting to look at kings life in totality and how he has written child orgies in It been blasted out of his mind on coke to being preachy about vaccines in a book published 2 years ago.

The book is fiction and not real so I don't have an issue with it and don't think it should be banned. That child orgy part was uncomfortable for me to get through. I thought it was totally unnecessary but IT is still in my Top Five King. I do agree with you that he shouldn't be preaching about stuff in his books since he does come off as a bit of a hypocrite

NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt and I have talked about king several times so they might know more about his more recent work Benny. I haven't read any if his recent stuff

I haven't read lot of his recent stuff but only like three books. I plan to read his more modern books next year

Let me preface by saying he has become one of my favorite authors the last few years. The Stand, The Dark Tower, Pet Sematary, It, The Green Mile. I like his short stories even better. He's undoubtedly one of the best authors of the modern era. I follow him on twitter and know he has really gotten into talking about politics the last few years. Whatever, that is his prerogative and I don't care. I can separate the art from the artist no problem.

That's how I am too. I'm fine with someone being as left wing or right wing on social media as long as they don't let their personal politics effect their art to the point where it gets preachy

Which brings me to this pile of shit:

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I needed something to listen to on my commute and saw this pop up in my recommendations on Spotify. Came out in 2023. Alright Stephen let's hear it.

Holy shit. Just in the first few hours:

- black kid murdered by police senselessly. Long diatribes about this.
- protag's mom is a trump supporter who refuses to take a Covid vaccine and dies.
- antagonists are evil white bigots
- gay Latin man victim
- gay, vegan, black woman victim
- long diatribes about name brand vaccines. Everyone is constantly saying which shots they got.
- a trailer park where the owner tells the protag Covid is a hoax.
- diatribes about climate change.

This is sad to hear, King is actually a great writer that despite being liberal, he used to be able to write his books in a way where whenever he did go into politics, it always felt natural. I guess he's definitely got the woke virus

At this point at the trailer park when a woman knitting a sweater started talking about climate change I decided to tap out. Is he trying to get a job writing videogames or something? Absolutely embarrassing.

It feels so hamfisted and amateurish. If the book was good I would keep going but it's so slow. And to be clear I would feel the exact same way if he was shoehorning Ben Shapiro talking points into his books. It honestly made me sad because he was so incredibly good in the past. Is all of his modern stuff like this?

Agree with the bolded

Last year I read Five King books back to back and while I loved most of them, I do have King burnout. When I read those five books back to back, I noticed he tends to write the same for every book and I noticed the tropes he used. Like the psychotic bully, preacher with a alcoholic problem, taking too long to actually start the plot of the book, being set in Maine, etc. He's a great writer but his constant use of those tropes I especially noticed when I read those five books back to back.

Right now, I've been reading The Long Walk by him and while it's really good, I still have burnout from him, so the book is going to get a lower than I expected grade. I love how detailed his prose is but sometimes he goes into so much detail that I think he has undiagnosed autism.

I only read 21 books by him so I haven't read a lot of King yet
 
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Calling King over rated is a wild take. Saying you don't like his style or his types of stories, sure, taste is subjective. Calling him over-rated is some pick-me bullshit though. Dude is an American treasure. I've read probably about 30 of his novels/short story compilations, and I'd say his batting average for me has been in the 80+ percent range. If you don't like the guy's politics, fine, don't read him, but let's not start making retarded claims about his talent.

ETA: I mean, let's talk about movies based on his stories alone, so many bangers.

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Calling King over rated is a wild take. Saying you don't like his style or his types of stories, sure, taste is subjective. Calling him over-rated is some pick-me bullshit though. Dude is an American treasure. I've read probably about 30 of his novels/short story compilations, and I'd say his batting average for me has been in the 80+ percent range. If you don't like the guy's politics, fine, don't read him, but let's not start making retarded claims about his talent.

The guy is talented I will say that, but for me his best stuff will always be his older stuff like Apt Pupil, Rita Hayworth and The Shawshank Redemption, It, Pet Semetary, Wizard And Glass, The Gunslinger, The Stand, The Shining, The Jaunt etc. What I read of his newer stuff is good too but most of them don't compare to his 70s to 90s stuff, I consider that to be him at his peak
 
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He used to be more subtle about it. Made the story about the people rather than ideology. Back during the AIDS pandemic, I remember in "It" he had a a couple of gay dudes who got beat up and killed by the local good ol' boys. But there was no preaching. he just told the story.
There's a larger subject somewhere in here but I think this applies to a lot of works in the past across various media. They could feature things like this, minority leads, etc but the difference is that it didn't feel preachy. It felt like the story still came first rather than trying to fill a quota or virtue signal.

And in general, they were a lot more accepted by everyone across the political spectrum to boot.
 
He used to be more subtle about it. Made the story about the people rather than ideology. Back during the AIDS pandemic, I remember in "It" he had a a couple of gay dudes who got beat up and killed by the local good ol' boys. But there was no preaching. he just told the story.

Yeah that is a great illustration of what I'm talking about. That part in the beginning of It felt natural and didn't even stick out to me when I read it. Holly is him taking a giant shoehorn and cramming as many liberal talking points into a book as possible. It's like reading a giant resetera thread about a naughty dog game.
 
He's the GOAT in the horror/fantasy genre, no questions. His cultural impact is immeasureable.

However, there's one Stephen king before the accident and a different one after. The Dark Tower saga is a sad proof of this. Genius from 1-4, trash from 5-7.

Anyway, we will rarely have another S.King in our lifetimes.
 
Calling King over rated is a wild take. Saying you don't like his style or his types of stories, sure, taste is subjective. Calling him over-rated is some pick-me bullshit though. Dude is an American treasure. I've read probably about 30 of his novels/short story compilations, and I'd say his batting average for me has been in the 80+ percent range. If you don't like the guy's politics, fine, don't read him, but let's not start making retarded claims about his talent.

ETA: I mean, let's talk about movies based on his stories alone, so many bangers.

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I was talking about the ending of the mist with someone who had never read any of his books but had seen the movie last week. Such a fucked up ending that I think about occasionally. Well done
 
I used to read a lot of Stephen King when I was a teenager. Such a great conversational storyteller - he'll slip away from the plot and ramble on for ages about a character's aunt who ran a grocery store in Castle Rock, and that strange thing that happened to her in '63, and so on, and so on, but it's rarely boring.

I think that's why a lot of movies based on his books are no good. The best ones are based on short stories, as you can't squeeze that long-winded way of telling stories around the story into two hours.

Never really noticed his politics, but all the god stuff got to be a little grating. Re-reading The Stand, it's a brilliant post-apocalyptic tale at the start, followed by hundreds of pages of religious council meetings and praising the lord.
 
The guy is talented I will say that, but for me his best stuff will always be his older stuff like Apt Pupil, Rita Hayworth and The Shawshank Redemption, It, Pet Semetary, Wizard And Glass, The Gunslinger, The Stand, The Shining, The Jaunt etc. What I read of his newer stuff is good too but most of them don't compare to his 70s to 90s stuff, I consider that to be him at his peak

I mean he's almost 80. Of course he's not at his peak.


Still the most prolific author of our lifetimes though.
 
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If you're looking for horror and need a break from Woke King, let me suggest:

Adam Nevill
Clive Barker
Ramsey Campbell
Laird Barron
Robert McCammon
Dan Simmons (Carrion Comfort is a must read)
Peter Straub (Ghost Story is a must read)
 
The guy is talented I will say that, but for me his best stuff will always be his older stuff like Apt Pupil, Rita Hayworth and The Shawshank Redemption, It, Pet Semetary, Wizard And Glass, The Gunslinger, The Stand, The Shining, The Jaunt etc. What I read of his newer stuff is good too but most of them don't
If you're looking for horror and need a break from Woke King, let me suggest:

Adam Nevill
Clive Barker
Ramsey Campbell
Laird Barron
Robert McCammon
Dan Simmons (Carrion Comfort is a must read)
Peter Straub (Ghost Story is a must read)
Clive Barker's Books of Blood short story compilations are amazing.
 
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Imagine if King had died win that car accident in 1999. THat would have ended it right after Dark Tower book IV, Girl who loved Tom Gordon. Right before Dreamcatcher and Black House, which might have been mostly written in 1999 (I've no idea how he works and how far ahead he is on books).

I think had that happened, he would have been LEGENDARY. He's kinda running out his legacy, I think, but you go to late 90's King and the run is astounding.
 
Calling King over rated is a wild take. Saying you don't like his style or his types of stories, sure, taste is subjective. Calling him over-rated is some pick-me bullshit though. Dude is an American treasure. I've read probably about 30 of his novels/short story compilations, and I'd say his batting average for me has been in the 80+ percent range. If you don't like the guy's politics, fine, don't read him, but let's not start making retarded claims about his talent.

ETA: I mean, let's talk about movies based on his stories alone, so many bangers.

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I just see a whole lot of garbage. No, seriously. All of that is basically the sort of low-brow junk that's been bringing down cinema for years. The shit I hated as a kid and utterly despise as an adult.

Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good. So's freaking Coca-Cola, and that's basically poison in a can.

That's Stephen King. Poison, in "written" form.

He and so many of his ilk have been "woke" all along. It's just now they (mistakenly) think now's their time, since in a lot of places you're all but straight-up carted to jail for voicing opinions his people don't like. Hell, in some places, like the UK, you are.
 
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I just see a whole lot of garbage. No, seriously. All of that is basically the sort of low-brow junk that's been bringing down cinema for years. The shit I hated as a kid and utterly despise as an adult.

Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good. So's freaking Coca-Cola, and that's basically poison in a can.

That's Stephen King. Poison, in "written" form.

He and so many of his ilk have been "woke" all along. It's just now they (mistakenly) think now's their time, since in a lot of places you're all but straight-up carted to jail for voicing opinions his people don't like. Hell, in some places, like the UK, you are.

If you look at that list and don't see one movie you like, I'm afraid you have shit taste. Shawshank? Green Mile?

His stuff isn't always great. I didn't really care for Salems Lot. But it's undeniable that he has produced a ton of good shit.
 
I grew up on Stephen King. His books were always an escape for me and by the time I was old enough to have a job I would purchase each of his books. Was lucky enough to meet him a few times as well, extremely engaging, intelligent, and overall uplifting person to meet and engage with.

Then he got hit by that van.

I swear to you he died and something else took over his body. I met him two times AFTER that incident and he was a completely different person. Angry, uncouth, bitter, and hateful as the two events. I didn't recognize the person at all.

Sucked to see that in person.
 
If you look at that list and don't see one movie you like, I'm afraid you have shit taste. Shawshank? Green Mile?

His stuff isn't always great. I didn't really care for Salems Lot. But it's undeniable that he has produced a ton of good shit.
FTFY. Heh, sorry, couldn't help it.

We have an irreconcilable difference of opinion, here. That needle's not gonna move in either direction, and that's cool. Suffice it to say, I find that his output has always been extremely vulgar - as in low. Base. Watching the movies just made me feel gross when I was younger. That's saying something, because as a kid I had an extremely high tolerance for shlock and shock. The thought of watching any of those today? Nah, boss. Can't do it.

This is definitely a difference in taste, that's for sure. But as to the main point of the thread, yeah: one should not be surprised that one who panders to the lowest of a person's sensibilities is probably a miserable example of a person. At this point, I doubt his success was organic. There's nothing really special about his "stories," and there never has been. It was just "what's on TV." As for those with a taste for the low-brow and the morbid, I think just about any shlock will do. And that's the man's specialty.

Everything he's ever made is underscored with black-spirited misanthropy. If that's your jam, that's your jam. Not judging.

EDIT: it's not as though misanthropy is in itself a problem. For example, I found that I liked some of Harlan Ellison's works, and that guy was just shockingly hateful and miserable.
 
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FTFY. Heh, sorry, couldn't help it.

We have an irreconcilable difference of opinion, here. That needle's not gonna move in either direction, and that's cool. Suffice it to say, I find that his output has always been extremely vulgar - as in low. Base. Watching the movies just made me feel gross when I was younger. That's saying something, because as a kid I had an extremely high tolerance for shlock and shock. The thought of watching any of those today? Nah, boss. Can't do it.

This is definitely a difference in taste, that's for sure. But as to the main point of the thread, yeah: one should not be surprised that one who panders to the lowest of a person's sensibilities is probably a miserable example of a person. At this point, I doubt his success was organic. There's nothing really special about his "stories," and there never has been. It was just "what's on TV." As for those with a taste for the low-brow and the morbid, I think just about any shlock will do. And that's the man's specialty.

Everything he's ever made is underscored with black-spirited misanthropy. If that's your jam, that's your jam. Not judging.
I don't know that I'd ever consider King's prose to be literature, but he can definitely tap into some strong human emotions and craft complex and interesting characters. I preferred his more direct "monster" stories over the character driven dramas he put out on the 00's, but it's just insane to write off his entire output based on his social media views as an opiate addict.

I'd be curious to see what, if anything, is said about him in 100 years. Will he fade away like so many uber popular authors of their time, or will someone ignite the intellectual and academic appreciation that keeps him alive forever like Poe, Lovecraft, and the like?
 
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