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Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus trailer (PC/XB1/PS4, Oct 27th, idtech6), season pass

GAMEPROFF

Banned
Last time the german version lacked english audio and removed references to specific nazi ideology, changing the whole theme of the game. Import is definitely the way to go

Bullshit

It was 1:1 the same game. Unless you consider replacement of the swastistka changing the whole theme of theme of the game. Its not. Its just a different symbol.
 

grmlin

Member
Bullshit

It was 1:1 the same game. Unless you consider replacement of the swastistka changing the whole theme of theme of the game. Its not. Its just a different symbol.

I played it on PS4 and at first I thought, I would miss a lot. But you really don't. You don't have to see swastistkas to play this game, even the German audio was great!
 

MikeBison

Member
Fan fucking tactic trailer.

Rare for an 8mimute trailer to hold my attention but this did. Everything about it was awesome.

Loved the first game.

This looks better.

Based Bethesda. Between this and Evil within 2, that's 2 fantastic games in October. Also excited by Ass creed and Mordor, but these 2 take priority.
 

Bluth54

Member
This was the only thing in the Bethesda conference that I was interested in. Hopefully it turns out as high quality as the last one.
 

grmlin

Member
Am I supposed to post the entire game? I'm not sure why you're so pissed about me pointing it out
Nazis are also referred to as "the regime" instead of Nazis

https://youtu.be/1hK4Px4O8aE?t=2m38s

Yes, and it does not matter imho.

It's Germany and there are no Nazi-symbols etc. allowed in games. So I'm perfectly fine with the way they handled it, the alternative would have been not to be able to play it at all!



That does not mean that I understand the logic behind this, as I can watch entertaining movies like Indiana Jones with all the symbols etc. intact. But it is what it is.
 

GAMEPROFF

Banned
Am I supposed to post the entire game? I'm not sure why you're so pissed about me pointing it out
Nazis are also referred to as "the regime" instead of Nazis

https://youtu.be/1hK4Px4O8aE?t=2m38s

Because everyone who plays this game is so braindead to not get that these are the nazis.
You are talking all the time about how the whole theme of the game was changed. Its not. Even with fantasy names and changed word. Its still about a world where a group of german people from World War 2 who consider their genes as superior took over. Call them Nazis, Trump-Supporter or Buttlickers. Its still the same in the end.
 

pswii60

Member
Loved the first game and this looks to continue that pure fun factor.

And you can already tell from the video that the gunplay just feels so much fun again.
 

SpaceWolf

Banned
Am I supposed to post the entire game? I'm not sure why you're so pissed about me pointing it out
Nazis are also referred to as "the regime" instead of Nazis, no "Heil hitler" in dialogues... That's quite the severe (and unnecessary) censorship

https://youtu.be/1hK4Px4O8aE?t=2m38s

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Kinyou

Member
Yes, and it does not matter imho.

It's Germany and there are no Nazi-symbols etc. allowed in games. So I'm perfectly fine with the way they handled it, the alternative would have been not to be able to play it at all!



That does not mean that I understand the logic behind this, as I can watch entertaining movies like Indiana Jones with all the symbols etc. intact. But it is what it is.
Afaik are symbols the big no no, but I've never seen a game make changes to it's dialogue. Pretty sure in all the old call of duty games the nazis get called nazis.

Because everyone who plays this game is so braindead to not get that these are the nazis.
You are talking all the time about how the whole theme of the game was changed. Its not. Even with fantasy names and changed word. Its still about a world where a group of german people from World War 2 who consider their genes as superior took over. Call them Nazis, Trump-Supporter or Buttlickers. Its still the same in the end.
Well it changes themes regarding "aryan race" and stuff surrounding their ideology. You claimed that it's 1:1 the same game, which imo it's absolutely not. BJ talking about "killing nazis" is iconic to the game.

Not sure what you're saying? That screenshot is from the english version
 

Joey Ravn

Banned
If BJ is going to be the father of twins, that means that one of those kids is the future father of William Joseph Blazkowicz II, aka Billy Blaze, ak Commander Keen.
 

Fliesen

Member
Everything about this game looked great. From the "Liesel" short to the guy dropping Acid in the end.

Any AT-gaffers got info on whether or not the digital version on the PSN store is uncensored and comes with english Audio? (as in, any Austrians having gotten Wolfenstein TNO digital, report in please)

the PEGI-18 (no USK) physical version i got from a bargain bin only had german audio, which was kinda detrimental to my enjoyment of the game.
 

GAMEPROFF

Banned
Well it changes themes regarding "aryan race" and stuff surrounding their ideology. You claimed that it's 1:1 the same game, which imo it's absolutely not. BJ talking about "killing nazis" is iconic to the game.

And you are claiming that the theme of the game completly changed.
Guess we booth were totally wrong.
 

Snefer

Member
Afaik are symbols the big no no, but I've never seen a game make changes to it's dialogue. Pretty sure in all the old call of duty games the nazis get called nazis.


Well it changes themes regarding "aryan race" and stuff surrounding their ideology. You claimed that it's 1:1 the same game, which imo it's absolutely not. BJ talking about "killing nazis" is iconic to the game.


Not sure what you're saying? That screenshot is from the english version

no, you can not mention anything regarding the nazis if you want to make sure that you can release in germany. Simple as that unfortunately. No references at all.
 

LaNaranja

Member
Really bummed they are releasing this so close to The Evil Within 2. I'll probably pick this up closer to Black Friday as a result.
 

GAMEPROFF

Banned
no, you can not mention anything regarding the nazis if you want to make sure that you can release in germany. Simple as that unfortunately. No references at all.

Thats just not true. Its just self-censorchip that went overboard. Take the swastiskas out and you are fine. World War 2 Shooter in Germany are a thing, you can buy World at Wat and everyone other CoD game with a campaing where you shoot germans.
 

Verano

Reads Ace as Lace. May God have mercy on their soul
Now this is a fuckin e3 trailer...holy shit everything looks fuckin good. Cant wait to kill Nazis and hopefully KKK hooded bastards in October 👍
 

Xater

Member
no, you can not mention anything regarding the nazis if you want to make sure that you can release in germany. Simple as that unfortunately. No references at all.

That's not true. Bethesda just was overzealous with their censorship.

Whatever I'll just buy the US version again like the last time.
 
What's the selling point here? The previous games received average-good reception, but not quite good enough to stand alongside its competitors.

I found the games to be unfocused, and poorly designed in places. Too many cinematics, forced stealth segments, etc. The strength is the gunplay, but the game focuses on too many features, like cinematics and stealth, that distract from this.

What have the done to address these issues? Aside being better to look at, what makes this a better game?
 

Fliesen

Member
That's not true. Bethesda just was overzealous with their censorship.

Whatever I'll just buy the US version again like the last time.

I guess the idea was to play nice and remove as much Nazi symbolism and references as possible, yet be able to leave all the gore in the game.
 
One heck of an amazing trailer.

The New Order and DOOM were one of the best first person shooter's from the last couple of years. This looks like it compliments on everything I loved about the first one, and improves it.

October is going to be one heck of a month.
 
Yooo hold up hold up hold up

Did anyone mention the head transplant yet, because i am pretty sure that's not BJ's body. See the gold rings across his neck and then consider the Cat-Monkey creature from the beginning of the trailer that has a cat head translated to a monkey's body, he/she also has the same rings. What y'all think ?
That would also explain why BJ is walking without the wheelchair.

V has come to bitches.

I'm going to take a guess here. You'll be presented with one of two choices at the start of the game kind of like The New Order.
You either get the head transplant done or you get a power suit. Watching the game there are scenes of BJ both with and without the suit fighting.
 

Vash63

Member
Looks absolutely great. Did they ever fix the framerate issues in the original? I couldn't get it to run over 60FPS without mods which broke some levels... would like to replay it before the sequel.
 

Phamit

Member
Regarding the german version:

You always have to keep on mind, that the ban on Swastikas etc. is based on a court decision from 1994 regarding the original Wolfenstein. Games weren't seen as appropriate medium to handle such topics. This has changed though, but it would need a new court ruling that overturns the old one, so it needs a Publisher to take such a game to court.
 

Chumley

Banned
I reckon they'll confirm for real whether he's alive or not with some kind of cliffhanger and he'll be the big bad for Wolfie 3.

I can definitely see that happening, would make for an amazing cliffhanger just seeing mecha hitler emerge from some pod or something.
 

SpaceWolf

Banned
I hope the sequel fixes that bloody mechanic where you have to tap square (or the XBOX equivalent) every time you want to pick up a specific piece of ammo off the floor.

That got old fast.
 
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