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Monday, May 9, 2005 at 15:07 JST
TOKYO — Nine railways in the Tokyo metropolitan area and a subway line started operating women-only cars Monday during the morning rush-hour period to prevent groping. The nine are the Tokyo Metro, Tobu, Seibu, Keisei, Keio, Odakyu, Tokyu, Keihin and Sagami railways.

Each train bound for central Tokyo has one women-only car during the morning rush through 9:30 a.m., railway and subway officials said.

am glad to have a separate car because I don't like being touched by men in the train," said Takako Shimizu, 32-year-old office worker, after using a women-only car on the Hanzomon Line of the Tokyo Metro.

Railways in the Kansai region centering on Osaka have already been operating women-only cars. Railways in the Tokyo area have been slower to introduce them, citing much more crowded platforms.

In the Tokyo metropolitan area, the Yokohama municipal subway introduced women-only cars in 2003, becoming the first subway operator to offer the service in the area during the busiest time.

The JR Saikyo Line linking Saitama and Tokyo, and the Rinkai Line of Tokyo Waterfront Area Rapid Transit Inc. followed suit last month.

The Shinjuku Police Station and East Japan Railway Co. held a ceremony Monday to start a campaign to eliminate crimes like groping and secretly taking photos of women.

The police station's chief Tetsuya Hara said in his speech at the ceremony, "Each railway company has stood up to eliminate groping. We want to do our part by tightening security in trains."

In February, Tokyo police said the number of reported groping incidents on Tokyo trains surged about threefold to 2,201 in 2004 from 778 cases in 1996. (Kyodo News)

:lol :lol :lol

 

[sprsk]

this is actually a good thing imo

 

[karasu]

Now I know where to hide.

 

[borghe]

in a completely related piece of fact, while we were over there a couple of weeks ago, one chick got on the train, promptly leaned her back up against my buddy (who was standing), and then proceeded to sleep leaning up against him for the next 20 minutes of the ride... lol...

he seriously had this completely weirded out and strangely uncomfortable look on
his face. weird.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

good stuff i wish they had that stuff here in NA.

 

[Manics]

Wow groping is that much of a problem in Japan? I heard some stuff about it in the past but didn't realize how widespread it was.

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

damnit! there goes my trip plans!


Edit: say, have you guys been here ?

 

[Great King Bowser]

Holy shit, those porn videos were REAL?

 

[Brofist]

Yeah women-only cars on trains have been around for at least a few years in Osaka, and other areas in the Kansai region. I'm surprised it has taken this long for major Tokyo lines to adopt them.

Nothing worse than running to make the train at the last second, getting on and taking a look around only to realize you are on a women-only car..that shit is embarrassing

 

[Brofist]

Wow groping is that much of a problem in Japan? I heard some stuff about it in the past but didn't realize how widespread it was.

during the work crowd trains get so packed people are literally pressed against one another. it's pretty easy for a guy to rub his hand across a girl's behind "by accident", and it is very common.

 

[pnjtony]

damnit! there goes my trip plans!


Edit: say, have you guys been here ?

While I was at that website I found the best headline ever

Bosom buddies beating breasts in tit-for-tat spat for best booby prize

Just awesome

 

[Kuramu]

i came in here expecting upskirt pix dammit

 

[Zaptruder]

Hokay... they play hard to get, but dressing up as a woman and fondling another woman is just *that* much more arousing!

 

[Azih]

good stuff i wish they had that stuff here in NA.

Kabuki's a woman?

 

[Mama Smurf]

Holy shit, those porn videos were REAL?

That's exactly what I was thinking.

 

[dskillzhtown]

Wow groping is that much of a problem in Japan? I heard some stuff about it in the past but didn't realize how widespread it was.

WTF? Groping is that much of a problem that they had to result to this? What is that about? Those in Japan, is groping that much of a problem in public there? Just seems a bit odd to me. Is the culture more of the women are just objects, not people?

I am thinking of several porn vids I saw from Japan that I an now wondering if they were real now, especially some of the 'forced action' movies.

 

[Socreges]

Haha, that's crazy. No wonder so many of you admire Japan.

Hokay... they play hard to get, but dressing up as a woman and fondling another woman is just *that* much more arousing!

"Hellooooooooooo!!"

 

[Macam]

WTF? Groping is that much of a problem that they had to result to this? What is that about? Those in Japan, is groping that much of a problem in public there? Just seems a bit odd to me. Is the culture more of the women are just objects, not people?

I am thinking of several porn vids I saw from Japan that I an now wondering if they were real now, especially some of the 'forced action' movies.

6 posts above...

during the work crowd trains get so packed people are literally pressed against one another. it's pretty easy for a guy to rub his hand across a girl's behind "by accident", and it is very common.

Which is absolutely correct. They actually have people hired to PUSH people on trains during rush hour. Much as I love Japan, it was riddled with moments of intense discomfort and social awkardness and having a 43-year old woman tucked into the space created by my arm reaching overhand for the support bar/handle was certainly one of those moments.

 

[dskillzhtown]

6 posts above...

Well...I was referring to the culture at large, not just in the trains.

 

[Oichi]

Yeah, it's quite a problem in Japan. I've talked to some older students (all housewives), and they all have at least one story about it. I'd rather not talk to the schoolgirls about it though.

Well, actually, I would, but I don't want to get deported.

But the good news! No women-only cars for the Nambu line (my line)!!! Let the groping continue!

 

[PhlegmMaster]

Once again Japanese people are ignoring the source of the problem and attacking the symptoms instead, and in a rather round-about (and ridiculous) way at that. Japanese society is so fucked up it's a wonder it hasn't started falling to pieces sooner than this.

 

[demon]

My friend who lived in japan for a year during highschool said she got felt up a few times on the train. So this doesn't surprise me.

 

[Dsal]

Anytime I rode the trains/subways there during rush hour it was always crazy. At any given time you're touching 8 different people, and no matter where you put your hands they're going to be brushing up against someone. My strategy was to hug my bookbag across my chest to give myself a little extra room. Very claustrophobia inducing, even if you aren't usually that way about things like that.

Because of the abrupt way the trains jostle and stop and also because of the way they shove more people in at each stop, you get put in some very strange positions. You'll get plenty of incidental contact with women that would be interpreted as bad touching in any other situation. Not to mention when they pull a sudden full stop and the whole car's passengers collapse on the floor like dominoes, and there you are on top of 3 OL's with some fat sweaty dude on top of you. Not comfortable for anyone of any gender . Getting hit in the balls with some guy's briefcase, good times.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

where can I get this famous p0rn vids?

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Once again Japanese people are ignoring the source of the problem and attacking the symptoms instead, and in a rather round-about (and ridiculous) way at that. Japanese society is so fucked up it's a wonder it hasn't started falling to pieces sooner than this.

They are not having kids, they only have 50 years to go.

 

[Particle Physicist]

Edit: say, have you guys been here ?

holy crap, thats fucked.

 

[Hero]

damnit! there goes my trip plans!


Edit: say, have you guys been here ?

I remember that site. Isn't it bogus?

 

[belgurdo]

I remember that site. Isn't it bogus?

Waiwai is equivalent to tabloid news...a lot of what they report is exaggerated (although Japan still has a big problem with women's rights regardless)

 

[rc213]

:lol I've seen a few Bus Molester's vids, good stuff. :lol

 

[etiolate]

Holy shit, those porn videos were REAL?

:lol

 

[Lyte Edge]

It's sad that a women-only car has to be introduced, but as everyone that's been on a train in Japan knows, it really is true. Some of the rush-hour train rides I was forced to be in were terrible...at least the people didn't have any body odor issues and were quiet, but just trying to get off at my stop was a pain; you can't just say "excuse me" and hope people will move; you have to PUSH your way out against the people pushing their way onto the train.

I had one experience with "groping." I heard a girl behind me yell "Sukebe!" towards me and turn around, but my hands were holding onto a pole and it was my packback (filled with crap) that must have bumped into her back, so once she saw that, nothing happened. Still embarassing though.

 

[Brofist]

Once again Japanese people are ignoring the source of the problem and attacking the symptoms instead, and in a rather round-about (and ridiculous) way at that. Japanese society is so fucked up it's a wonder it hasn't started falling to pieces sooner than this.

overreact much? There are laws/fines to deter these sort of things as well. From what I've heard the fines are fairly steep.

But you have to remember many women don't bother making a fuss when they get felt on the train, because they are embarrassed as well. At least this way they can ride to work without the worry of thinking about being grabbed.

 

[Grifter]

Holy shit, those porn videos were REAL?

I saw one of those once, are they really on a public train?

 

[belgurdo]

I saw one of those once, are they really on a public train?

Maybe they rent out a car and do their thing?

 

[PhlegmMaster]

But you have to remember many women don't bother making a fuss when they get felt on the train, because they are embarrassed as well.

And that's one of the sources of the problem. That sort of thing doesn't happen (...as much) in the US and Europe because most women would scream, call for help, or kick's the guy ass in the same situation.

Besides, do you think this sends a healthy message to Japanese society as a whole? "Our men are so uncontrollably perverted, and our women so weak that the latter need to be protected by putting them in seperate cars." How fucking pathetic is that?!

 

[Socreges]

Anytime I rode the trains/subways there during rush hour it was always crazy. At any given time you're touching 8 different people, and no matter where you put your hands they're going to be brushing up against someone. My strategy was to hug my bookbag across my chest to give myself a little extra room. Very claustrophobia inducing, even if you aren't usually that way about things like that.

Because of the abrupt way the trains jostle and stop and also because of the way they shove more people in at each stop, you get put in some very strange positions. You'll get plenty of incidental contact with women that would be interpreted as bad touching in any other situation. Not to mention when they pull a sudden full stop and the whole car's passengers collapse on the floor like dominoes, and there you are on top of 3 OL's with some fat sweaty dude on top of you. Not comfortable for anyone of any gender . Getting hit in the balls with some guy's briefcase, good times.

Sounds like pretty much any transit system in a major city. The difference is that, at least where I live [Vancouver], I've never heard anything about groping, let alone an epidemic.

 

[Pochacco]

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[J2 Cool]

Why not just make a line for all the groping lovers? Then they'd stop spilling over.

 

[The Faceless Master]

holy shit, they make videos of that stuff???

 

[iapetus]

That sort of thing doesn't happen (...as much) in the US and Europe because most women would scream, call for help, or kick's the guy ass in the same situation.

It is not the guy's ass they would kick (or, at closer range, knee).

 

[belgurdo]

holy shit, they make videos of that stuff???

Train groping/sex is probably the tamest genre you can find in Japanese porn...

 

[Grifter]

Maybe they rent out a car and do their thing?

Except the crowd looks real.

 

[Blackace]

this has been going on for quite a while now. I think now just a few more of the major train lines decided to jump on board because it looks like they are helping... I got on one by mistake one early morning...hahah that was really funny...

 

[Lyte Edge]

this has been going on for quite a while now. I think now just a few more of the major train lines decided to jump on board because it looks like they are helping... I got on one by mistake one early morning...hahah that was really funny...

:lol I was wondering if that might have happened to anyone. What happened when you got on? Just lots of stares, or did someone tell you to get off?

They should mark those cars better so this won't happen to foreigners.

 

[Blackace]

They are marked pretty well... hahah just it was 7 in the morning... People just stared and I looked around a bit and saw a sign and changed at the next stop... I should have yelled out "What you ain't never seen an ugly woman before?!?!?"

 

[Brofist]

yeah I've had that happen to me a handful of times. Usually when I'm running for the train and not paying attention. I've never gotten a terrible reaction, I'll usually just get off the next stop and switch cars.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

Train groping/sex is probably the tamest genre you can find in Japanese porn...

So they take some chick off the train and have sex with her like right there? I'm not understanding this.

 

[Blackace]

Train groping/sex is probably the tamest genre you can find in Japanese porn...

besides the normal stuff where the girl just lays there like a dead fish...

 

[Scrow]

it'd be cool if groping still occured on the women only car

 

[Blackace]

it'd be cool if groping still occured on the women only car

There is a line... where men get gropped... by women!