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krypt0nian said:
That would rock IMO if true. Seems a bit fishy but I'm all for it.
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I did some reading a while ago on wowwiki and such and the lore seems to slot right in -- unexplored lands, tons of backstory, a racial goal, reasons for them being part of the Alliance. Also, if Blood Elves are supposed to "cutesify" the Horde, then Worgen are certainly appropriate for badassing the Alliance up a bit. Especially with the suggested "racial ability: mount -- transform into a mount for 60% increased running speed" that I saw somewhere.
 
Rahul said:
Especially with the suggested "racial ability: mount -- transform into a mount for 60% increased running speed" that I saw somewhere.
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After Tauren lost Plainsrunning in beta, I seriously doubt they'd reintroduce the "you are your mount" ability. Piss off all the kodo-riders. ;)
 
That wacky Arugal.
First the annoying wolfmen in Silverpine Forest, then one of the tougher earlier instance bosses, and now this!
 
ToyMachine228 said:
Where did you find that stuff about the Worgen?
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It's essentially fan fic...I saw the original (admittedly well done) post back when the x-pack was officially revealed, and the guy who put it up admitted that he wrote it...of course, it got picked up in a gazillion places as "the real deal."

Still would be freakin' cool though.
 
JackFrost2012 said:
After Tauren lost Plainsrunning in beta, I seriously doubt they'd reintroduce the "you are your mount" ability. Piss off all the kodo-riders. ;)
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Yeah, true. It was just a list some guy made up, anyway.

As for where I found it, a guildmate of mine posted it on our forums, so I wouldn't know where he got it... and as echoshifting said, it was admitted to be fake.

But at the same time, when you think about it, it seems incredibly possible. The parts are all there. We know it won't be Pandaren or Draenei, so whom does that leave? More than likely a new race. If it were a new race, it'd have to fulfill certain consistencies (such as not being dreamt up out of the middle of nowhere). It'd need established lore and backstory. Somehow I don't think Moonkin would become a playable race. So for me, Worgen is number one likelihood at this point.
 
Rahul said:
So for me, Worgen is number one likelihood at this point.
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I agree--even though that particular writeup is fake, Worgen make a lot of sense, fit well into the world, fills a missing "niche" on the Alliance side much like BE does on Horde, etc. etc. Here's hoping it's true.
 
That Worgen background text was made up by a WoW General forum poster, and was never presented as originally coming from Blizzard. It was just a suggestion he was making as a possible background. You can still find the original thread he started with it, along with the part 2 thread (threads on the WoW forum glitch after a certain number of posts).

Worgen would be insanely cool as a new Alliance race, and therefore will not happen.
 
I really doubt Draenei. No backstory, no reason for allegiance to the Alliance, no humanoid (thus skinnable) model, etc.

Worgen have all those things. Worgen have the storyline with the Scythe of Elune, that was mysteriously unfinished in Duskwood. Worgen have an entire region of the map + several islands currently unopened. Worgen are based on humans. etc.

In any kind of logical argument, Worgen is more likely than Draenei.

And what else is there? It ain't gonna be Pandaren or goblins.
 
I have to say, I know next to nothing about WoW, but if there was a Panda race, I would be all over that shit so fast it would make Blizzard's head spin. Oh. My. God.
 
WordAssassin said:
I have to say, I know next to nothing about WoW, but if there was a Panda race, I would be all over that shit so fast it would make Blizzard's head spin. Oh. My. God.
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why? I don't entirely undestand this obsession for panda in Warcraft
 
It still probably is Draeni. In this thread :-

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=5714455&s=blizzard&tmp=1#blizzard

Caydiem replies about the constant "Tigon" threads disappearing, but also says :

come now, with a world of possibilities in what has already been written, particularly surrounding the subject of the expansion, do you really think we'd introduce a race of jungle cat-people that has absolutely no relation to Outland whatsoever? ;)
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She then tried to cover her tracks with an edit

EDIT: Do not assume anything at this point. I've said nothing even remotely confirming what the race will be, here.
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:lol
 
Rahul said:
I really doubt Draenei. No backstory, no reason for allegiance to the Alliance, no humanoid (thus skinnable) model, etc.

Worgen have all those things. Worgen have the storyline with the Scythe of Elune, that was mysteriously unfinished in Duskwood. Worgen have an entire region of the map + several islands currently unopened. Worgen are based on humans. etc.

In any kind of logical argument, Worgen is more likely than Draenei.

And what else is there? It ain't gonna be Pandaren or goblins.
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Like I said, it's not the Worgen. As for your point that the Draenei has no allegiance to the Alliance that has no basis whatsoever. Blizzard has shown time and time again that they'll manipulate the story and characters to fit WoW as they see fit. The new race HAS to have close ties to the Outlands.

For those of you who wanted the Pandarens, stop wishing, its over. It was 100% locked earlier in the year but due to some unforeseen conflict there is now no chance of hell of that happening. At best they'll be a non-killable NPC race. Fun tidbit: they were one of the races they were planning on introducing initially.
 
Scrow said:
why? I don't entirely undestand this obsession for panda in Warcraft
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It's not in Warcraft, it's in general. Pandas and rabbits are like my two favorite animals ever.

"What kind of camoflage is this, black and white? Hiding in an Oreo factory? Could be! That's just another tale in the ongoing saga of Panda!"

For those of you who wanted the Pandarens, stop wishing, its over. It was 100% locked at some point but due to some unforeseen conflict there is now no chance of hell of that happening.
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Does this mean no chance with this expansion, or no chance EVER? (Future expansions, say)
 
TekunoRobby said:
Like I said, it's not the Worgen. As for your point that the Draenei has no allegiance to the Alliance that has no basis whatsoever. Blizzard has shown time and time again that they'll manipulate the story and characters to fit WoW as they see fit. The new race HAS to have close ties to the Outlands.

For those of you who wanted the Pandarens, stop wishing, its over. It was 100% locked earlier in the year but due to some unforeseen conflict there is now no chance of hell of that happening. At best they'll be a non-killable NPC race. Fun tidbit: they were one of the races they were planning on introducing initially.
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Care to explain?
 
Orcs slaughtered Dranaei to nearly the point of extinction earlier in the Warcraft lore. They would definitely make sense as an Alliance race. Not to mention Outland is their home realm.
 
WordAssassin said:
Does this mean no chance with this expansion, or no chance EVER? (Future expansions, say)
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Won't happen for this current expansion. Might not happen period but things can change.
 
Sal Paradise Jr said:
They would definitely make sense as an Alliance race.
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Lore sense perhaps, but not sense sense. Unless they're really set on redressing the faction balance by guaranteeing 875,000 new Horde characters and 3 new Alliance characters.

And one of them would be an alt of the first guy's.
 
Razoric said:
Care to explain?
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Blizzard's offices had quite a few bits of Pandaren artwork alongside the Blood Elf artwork for WoW in their offices a few months back. That and there've been quite a few slips of the mouth from a few employees during the summer months. TheyÂ’ve also already had models and artwork created from the preliminary Pandaren characters a year or two back. They were originally going to be in the game from the beginning but got pulled due to some unknown reason.

Like most things, this hasn't been confirmed by Blizzard so you can't be 100% sure. I suggest be cautious of it like I do with all officially unconfirmed rumors but the Pandarens as an Alliance race has been mentioned countless times over the year from trusted sources and coupled with some of the more recent events that have been happening I feel safe to say that they did in fact consider the Pandarens.


D2M15 said:
They would definitely make sense as an Alliance race.

Lore sense perhaps, but not sense sense. Unless they're really set on redressing the faction balance by guaranteeing 875,000 new Horde characters and 3 new Alliance characters.

And one of them would be an alt of the first guy's.
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And why do you think they introduced the Blood Elves to the Horde in the first place? It's 100% for Faction balance, this is a SERIOUS issue in Asia (moreso than here) and they want to fix it.
 
D2M15 said:
Lore sense perhaps, but not sense sense. Unless they're really set on redressing the faction balance by guaranteeing 875,000 new Horde characters and 3 new Alliance characters.

And one of them would be an alt of the first guy's.
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That is their main goal with these new races.
 
TekunoRobby said:
Blizzard's offices had quite a few bits of Pandaren artwork for WoW in their offices a few months back. That and there've been quite a few slips of the mouth from a few employees during the summer months. TheyÂ’ve also already had models and artwork created from the preliminary Pandaren characters a year or two back. They were originally going to be in the game from the beginning but got pulled due to some unknown reason.

Like most things, this hasn't been confirmed by Blizzard so you can't be 100% sure. I suggest be cautious of it like I do with all officially unconfirmed rumors but the Pandarens as an Alliance race has been mentioned countless times over the year and coupled with some of the more recent events that have been happening I feel safe to say that they did in fact consider the Pandarens.
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Ahh ok. But what is the speculation about the 'unknown reason' or 'problem'? Why aren't they going to use Pandarens now?
 
Razoric said:
Ahh ok. But what is the speculation about the 'unknown reason' or 'problem'? Why aren't they going to use Pandarens now?
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I was told "political reasons." I'm extrapolating that as "pissing off the Chinese."
 
Razoric said:
Wow. That would be messed up if true.
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:lol It's pretty funny and actually makes a good deal of sense.

In the global arena of WoW the US market is the beta test for the real market: Asia. Everything they do here is for simple testing measure and to make sure the product is as balanced as possible before they bring it out overseas. The Blood Elves were purely based on the fact that in China, etc. the balance is somewhere along the lines of 70% Alliance, 40% Horde.

Now "Political Reasons" could be an internal desicion within Blizzard or VU. I'm just guessing that it probably has more to do with Asian market instead of Blizzard deciding it wouldn't fit in the lore. Plus adding in Pandarens wouldn't really address the balance issue, they're an extremely likeable race.
 
TekunoRobby said:
The Blood Elves were purely based on the fact that in China, etc. the balance is somewhere along the lines of 70% Alliance, 40% Horde.
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That's not the 'pure reason' for them being a playable race, although the bias is definitely there. But I guess it's not worth getting into a message board slap-fight over.
 
D2M15 said:
They're really not, but I guess it's not worth getting into a message board slap-fight over.
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Ehhh like you said its not important and I wouldn't get into a ridiculous argument over something stupid like that. I trust that rough estimate to be true but that's taking into consideration the entire Asian market. Main point being its unbalanced like here but even moreso.

Ok I'm done, no more WoW talk. I just want Blizzard to introduce the Titan Cities ASAP.
 
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Reminds me of Metroid Prime.
 
When this comes out, you know everyone is gonna be one of the Blood Elves or the other one... the game might end up being pretty unbalanced.
 
Just wanted to add that what Tekuno is saying really locks with rumors that the Alliance race is still in an early state...maybe they invested a lot of time in Pandaren and had to scrap it?

And is that screen really Outlands or from the new Silthius instance in the next patch?
 
Because the panda is an endangered species and the national animal (afaik) of China. Having them kill each other would ban the game in a million+ market. Blizzard reps said as much when I asked.
 
TekunoRobby is 100% on target--Pandarens were considered a lock until pressure from the Chinese market (which is nearly as large as U.S. + Europe combined) forced them to change it.

Sorry, America, but you're just paying beta testers.
 
Rahul said:
I really doubt Draenei. No backstory, no reason for allegiance to the Alliance, no humanoid (thus skinnable) model, etc.

Worgen have all those things. Worgen have the storyline with the Scythe of Elune, that was mysteriously unfinished in Duskwood. Worgen have an entire region of the map + several islands currently unopened. Worgen are based on humans. etc.

In any kind of logical argument, Worgen is more likely than Draenei.

And what else is there? It ain't gonna be Pandaren or goblins.
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The dranei do hate orcs with a passion because after the orcs became cursed with the bloodrage they slaughtered many dranei. So perhaps there could be an enemy of my enemy is my friend thing going on here. And i dont know what you mean theres no lore about dranei theres tons now did you not play/read the lore that came with TFT? I for one dont know who the hell its gonna be, blizzard has stated from day one back when the WoW website was just some shitty story of Brann web log that they will advance the story of the warcraft universe just like the RTS's did. So we will have to wait and see what in game lore can be found after the expansion releases.
 
Diablos said:
When this comes out, you know everyone is gonna be one of the Blood Elves or the other one... the game might end up being pretty unbalanced.
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You mean that when two new races are introduced, a majority of people will pick one or the other? YOU'RE INSANE!
 
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