• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Writing-GAF: Writing, Publishing, Selling |OT|

I've finished up what could be the first novel but I'm not sure what to make of it just yet. I think I'll need to keep writing and see where it goes.
 
Bravo! Love the cover too. It's very classy. I also really like the premise. Seems like it might be something quite cool to read to your kids. A bit in there for your boys? :) Keep us posted on how it goes. Your task for this week for that book is to post it on/sign it up on at least 1 advertising site like Awesomegang, or Pretty-Hot, etc. Every week you'll have to do another, FYI.

On to book #2!

Thanks! I went through A LOT of Canva pictures before I came across that one. If you're reading it to kids, you might want to pre-read. There's some violence and unpleasant scenes in there. It's coming of age, but it's coming of age in a crumbling post-Roman world. Shit does hit the fan.

And thanks for the reminder on advertising. I just signed up for an Awesomegang free ad.


Oh, and I'm 2100 words into book 2, Knight Ardent.

Onward and upward. I'll ride this wave as long as it's going well.
 

zulux21

Member
How come books aren't as popular as movies, games, and music? Hardly seems like I can find people to talk in depth about books I read, but the same isn't true for the other mediums. There doesn't seem to be big announcements and marketing for books compared to others. It's just every few years there seems to be that one big that everyone seems to read, but on average silence.

music is easy to listen to while doing other things and movies and games stimulate more senses than books do thus people tend to prefer them over books.

i know personally my ratio of games and tv shows compared to books I read is way skewed towards games and tv shows.

Though I know I am an odd case where I enjoy writing, but I am not a huge fan of reading.
 

Soulfire

Member
Okay, first novella is up on Amazon!

So just to share a bit more about this effort. I had an idea on how I wanted to craft this. The bare bones are still here, namely: in post-Roman departure Britain, a monk accompanies a knight to document his heroics. Now, originally, I wanted the monk to be a debauched, cynical man who had been told by the church that their crumbling world needed heroes, and so he would be responsible for playing up the actions of this knight to make them more heroic than they actually were. In essence, this was going to be "The (Mostly) True Tales of Sir WhatsHisName." The knight was going to be this paragon of virtue and chivalry who would eventually win the monk over to the fact that his heroics actually were authentic.

But when I sat down to write that, the story and the characters decided we'd go in a different direction. The monk remains, and while he has sinned, he is not a cynical character. He takes his responsibility to the church quite seriously. He is also charged with accompanying the 3rd son of a knight, who wants to become a knight instead of a monk, and who is given 12 tasks to complete for his father to allow him his knighthood rather than sending him off to the monastery.

This book is the first of those tasks. The plan is I'll have 12 novellas, each one a task. Sort of like the 12 Labors of Hercules. Figuring out exactly what those 12 task will be is something I'd welcome input on. Hercules appears to have slayed a lot of monsters, and that's not really the plan here. I have maybe six or seven tasks identified and figured that was enough for now, because it's clear that planning things out in my head isn't always going to be where the story wants to take me.

Sounds interesting, purchased. Congrats on finishing, you're really inspiring me to keep plugging away.
The last couple of days I've been tired and finished the day a few hundred short of 1k, but every little bit helps and I did give birth less than two weeks ago. I'm at the point where I'm pretty sure everything I've written is absolute crap and I'm wondering why I ever thought I could write a cozy mystery. I keep telling myself that this is just a way for me to get back into the routine of writing and that it's a nice way for me to try something new with a different pen name so no pressure.
 
Sounds interesting, purchased. Congrats on finishing, you're really inspiring me to keep plugging away.
The last couple of days I've been tired and finished the day a few hundred short of 1k, but every little bit helps and I did give birth less than two weeks ago. I'm at the point where I'm pretty sure everything I've written is absolute crap and I'm wondering why I ever thought I could write a cozy mystery. I keep telling myself that this is just a way for me to get back into the routine of writing and that it's a nice way for me to try something new with a different pen name so no pressure.

Thanks! I'm glad I'm inspiring you, but you writing after giving birth two weeks ago should be inspiring everyone in this thread!
 

Soulfire

Member
Wrote 1300 words today. I figured out who I want to be the killer, which is amusing since I'm 25k in and you'd think I'd already know that. It's going to be interesting reading back on this. Now I'm going to try and get a mailing list set up, I'm using mailchimp since it's what I'm most familiar with.
 

FlowersisBritish

fleurs n'est pas britannique
Gonna try my hand at short stories for a bit. Might be a decent way of improving my writing rather than just writing long novels.

Might wanna check out The Creative Writing Challenges if you're interested in short story writing. No pressure to join if you don't want, I just find them a good way to make sure I'm writing consistently. And if you're ever at a loss of something to write, you can check out the previous challenges and use one of the old prompts. Also, if you're confused about what's going on in this challenge, don't worry so is everyone else.
 

sirap

Member
sLKsaE9.jpg


Contemporary M/M is worth getting into if you can nail the tropes (Rockstar/Bodyguard, May-December, bestfriend's brother etc.)

Not sure if it has anything to do current uncertainty that's going on in America, but i'm seeing big spikes in this genre. Gay romance has always had a low profitability ceiling compared to straight or bi, but it seems like that's changing.
 

Dresden

Member
Gonna try my hand at short stories for a bit. Might be a decent way of improving my writing rather than just writing long novels.

Personal opinion obviously, but I think if you want to get better at writing novels, you need to write more novels, and vice versa. They're two different skill sets.
 
Contemporary M/M is worth getting into if you can nail the tropes (Rockstar/Bodyguard, May-December, bestfriend's brother etc.)

Not sure if it has anything to do current uncertainty that's going on in America, but i'm seeing big spikes in this genre. Gay romance has always had a lower profitability ceiling compared to straight or even bi, but it seems like that's changing.

112883-Darth-Vader-most-impressive-gi-zO0u.gif
 

Delio

Member
sLKsaE9.jpg


Contemporary M/M is worth getting into if you can nail the tropes (Rockstar/Bodyguard, May-December, bestfriend's brother etc.)

Not sure if it has anything to do current uncertainty that's going on in America, but i'm seeing big spikes in this genre. Gay romance has always had a low profitability ceiling compared to straight or bi, but it seems like that's changing.

That's really nice to know considering I storyplan a lot of Gay romance.
 

Jintor

Member
huh.

i wonder how the lesbian market is.

I was considering trying my hand at yuri (japanese manga-esque focused stuff) again, but I think amazon frowns upon high-schooler focused stuff which is a lot of where yuri kinda lives.
 

zulux21

Member
huh.

i wonder how the lesbian market is.

I was considering trying my hand at yuri (japanese manga-esque focused stuff) again, but I think amazon frowns upon high-schooler focused stuff which is a lot of where yuri kinda lives.

so maybe you shift a bit for the market you are going for?
I mean it's not that hard to shift a yuri school romance to college instead, especially since in america it's more likely for students to have crazy after school clubs in college than most high schools. (at least for me all my high school clubs were like math and choir... in college we had anime club, and fencing and broomball and cooking ect :p)

I mean if you really want some high school stuff you could even do a flashback when the character was 18 and a senior in highschool :p

though at the end of the day... I would just recommend writing and finishing something... and not screwing up your teeth... as it is super distracting to plotting when you have constant pain in your mouth :p

i am gonna still have to do my best to finish my challenge sunday night.... I really thought I was going to run a lot longer than the 1.8k words for that but I think I might be able to get it done without any editing the first time for that goal to complete the little story I am doing lol. (aka I am at 900 words and a little over halfway done with what I want to say in it)
 
Personal opinion obviously, but I think if you want to get better at writing novels, you need to write more novels, and vice versa. They're two different skill sets.

Tough to say, I like writing a decent length story but I don't like feeling trapped to it for too long and like the freedom to write other stuff at times.
 

Prothero

Neo Member
Writing-GAF, I need some advice:

About how long do you think it should take to write a short story from first draft to ready for publication? I'm considering entering some short story contests. One has a hard deadline at the end of the month and one is from a magazine with open submissions for stories. That one with the hard deadline is 2,000-4,000 words and the one from the magazine is 5,000+ words.

Word count is not an issue for me, but I just want to make sure that I'm giving myself enough time to get the work done properly. I know that everyone works differently. I guess what I'm asking is how much time I should allow myself for outlining, drafts, etc. and how much time you guys spend working on those same things when writing short stories.

Thanks very much in advance for any help you can give me. :)
 

Relix

he's Virgin Tight™
FML, my business is sucking all of my free time away from me. At this rate I am gonna miss the damned challenge XD!
 

Relix

he's Virgin Tight™
Additionally I was just checking my only full manuscript... 73K words. I am trying to edit it but I think I need a pro-editor. I wrote it across a large span of time so there are lots of inconsistencies of voice and style.
 
Normally my edits are to cut all the bullshit because I over explain, but in this book I almost feel like I under explained. It's hard to tell what to do :X First two chapters I added about as much as I cut, and only now am I actually cutting stuff and not adding back. But I'm wondering if I should add more descriptions.

I don't want to fall into the Ernest Cline trap of figuring people know what shit looks like because they played with the toys and lol nostalgia, since this is not that kind of book.
 

FlowersisBritish

fleurs n'est pas britannique
Having this weird problem. I got a bit of advice on this story I'm editing with the hopes of sending out hopefully this week. For a relatively short flashback scene (less than a page, but two decent paragraphs in length) to use past-perfect tense but if I do, then the only way I can think about it is then to have all the sentences use 'had' and that gets repetitive real quick. Might ignore their advice, as it is clear this is a flashback I think, but still ruminating on it.

The scene bellow incase anyone wants to see it in past-perfect and maybe give me some advice on how to handle this?

The TV played an early scene from Poltergeist. The family crowded around a small kitchen unaware of the horrors they were about to endure. Isabella watched nostalgically. She listened to Benny walk over to Diva, the noticeable pause between his pets as he found the scars hidden in her fur. Isabella had been six the first time she had watched the movie. Her dad had told her not to, that it would give her nightmares. Alone in her room, where darkness could hide anything, she couldn’t sleep. She had creaked downstairs to the couch where her dad had slept, blanketed in a stench of cheap beers. Dad, she nudged him, Dad.
She said, I’m scared. He said, go back to bed, but Isabella had kept nudging his shoulder through his thin blanket. Half drunk off better dreams, he had slapped her, then had told her again, Go back to bed. Isabella had stopped nudging. He had rolled away into the couch. “You get what you deserve,” he had slurred. A tulip bulb had grown from his ear into the white fabric of the couch, half in bloom, half dead. The flower was frozen in time within Isabella’s mind.
 

zulux21

Member
Additionally I was just checking my only full manuscript... 73K words. I am trying to edit it but I think I need a pro-editor. I wrote it across a large span of time so there are lots of inconsistencies of voice and style.

i can totally get that.
for me I will just go through and completely rewrite early stuff with my updated style from time to time.

I imagine that for a lot of people that is a big waste of time though. it becomes a necessity for me from time to time as with the grand scale of my project I love setting up things early on for stuff much later, and sometimes when I get to the much later things don't quite go the way I had planned, thus the need to redo some early scenes. I could just fix the scenes in question but typically a full update just feels better to me.

edit: yay a productive night. i doubled my progress for the year by writing about 3k words (it hasn't been a good year so far) but I think I have found a groove again so that is nice. but I am sleepy so I must stop. here's hoping I can continue when I get up.
 
Are there any good books or references guiding new authors on the business side of things, specifically marketing a book, choosing how to sell it/where/and for how much etc. etc.
 

sirap

Member
Self-publishing.

Thanks

oof, that's a big subject. Not many indie-authors like to talk about marketing strategies, but it pretty much boils down to two things—self-promotion through social media and paid ads.

The first is harder than you think. You'll need to engage with readers in a friendly and authentic manner without coming across as a greasy salesman. That's hard when selling books is your ultimate goal, and everyone has their own way of approaching it.

You can join facebook groups, subreddits and goodread communities that revolve around your chosen genre. Build some relationships, engage in discussions and give some recommendations of other good books. Try to be as transparent as possible about your intentions. Once you've built a decent rep, get as many ARC readers as possible. They're going to be your main pushers when it comes to day-1 reviews on Amazon, which is important if you're a new author in need of visibility. Don't underestimate the power of social media, word-of-mouth can snowball pretty quickly with a dedicated fanbase.

Paid ads is simple, but expensive. Facebook ads, AMS, Fiverr, Bookbub etc. Competitive genres generally require a shit-ton of advertising. It's not unheard of to spend $2000-$3000 in ads to get your book ranked in contemporary romance, which is why I advocate writing in smaller, easier to break into niches.

There's probably a million other things to talk about but you'll have to do your own research. Kboards is a good resource if you can filter out the negativity, and there are some excellent subreddits for writers (r/eroticauthors is one of them). Search for my previous posts too.
 

mu cephei

Member
Having this weird problem. I got a bit of advice on this story I'm editing with the hopes of sending out hopefully this week. For a relatively short flashback scene (less than a page, but two decent paragraphs in length) to use past-perfect tense but if I do, then the only way I can think about it is then to have all the sentences use 'had' and that gets repetitive real quick. Might ignore their advice, as it is clear this is a flashback I think, but still ruminating on it.

The scene bellow incase anyone wants to see it in past-perfect and maybe give me some advice on how to handle this?

Disclaimer: I don't recall what past-perfect is. But imo those hads are terrible and need to go. I think it's clear it's a flashback.
 

Figments

Member
I've been having a tough time even starting to write the novel I want to do, because every time I start, I get hung up on key worldbuilding aspects vital to the story.

These include:
  • The Runic in-universe matrix language (basically a magic programming language)
  • How matrix compilers interact with the language
  • Creating theories and postulates that both make sense for the mathematics in this universe, and fit into the practical design of Runic

I want Runic to be this universe's equivalent of Assembly/Machine Code, as it's a low-level language upon which all other matrix languages in the universe base their "compilers" on.

The difficulty comes in two parts:
1) What makes sense as a practical translation of Assembly to Runic
2) How to make this both accessible for an audience and still relay the very technical theme of the universe

Hell, I even plan on including various examples of Runic in-text so as to illustrate what the characters grapple with in their day to day and attempt to make it a natural learning experience, of a sort.

I feel like I'm making my job harder than it should be.

TL;DR: My brain works in weird ways and I might need help.
 

Dresden

Member
Having this weird problem. I got a bit of advice on this story I'm editing with the hopes of sending out hopefully this week. For a relatively short flashback scene (less than a page, but two decent paragraphs in length) to use past-perfect tense but if I do, then the only way I can think about it is then to have all the sentences use 'had' and that gets repetitive real quick. Might ignore their advice, as it is clear this is a flashback I think, but still ruminating on it.

The scene bellow incase anyone wants to see it in past-perfect and maybe give me some advice on how to handle this?

I think past perfect is fine, but the line below was kinda wonky:

Her dad had told her not to, that it would give her nightmares. Alone in her room, where darkness could hide anything, she couldn’t sleep. She had creaked downstairs to the couch where her dad had slept,

the bolded should be changed to past perfect as well imo, so like 'she'd not been able to sleep' or something. And if readers find all the hads repetitive, you could just break up its repetition by contracting a few (as in, "he had" to "he'd").
 

Woorloog

Banned
I've been having a tough time even starting to write the novel I want to do, because every time I start, I get hung up on key worldbuilding aspects vital to the story.

These include:
  • The Runic in-universe matrix language (basically a magic programming language)
  • How matrix compilers interact with the language
  • Creating theories and postulates that both make sense for the mathematics in this universe, and fit into the practical design of Runic

I want Runic to be this universe's equivalent of Assembly/Machine Code, as it's a low-level language upon which all other matrix languages in the universe base their "compilers" on.

The difficulty comes in two parts:
1) What makes sense as a practical translation of Assembly to Runic
2) How to make this both accessible for an audience and still relay the very technical theme of the universe

Hell, I even plan on including various examples of Runic in-text so as to illustrate what the characters grapple with in their day to day and attempt to make it a natural learning experience, of a sort.

I feel like I'm making my job harder than it should be.

TL;DR: My brain works in weird ways and I might need help.

First, advise i don't actually follow myself but is apparently pretty common and good advise, paraphrased: Write first, then think.
Worldbuilding without book is not visible. Surprisingly large amount of worldbuilding is just a matter or variables that do not necessarily change anything as things may depend on ratios.
You can fit the language into placeholder sections later. And you'll have better idea what you need and how much you need it.
Of course, worldbuilding in itself is interesting, whether or not one ever intends to publish, so don't take this as discouragement about doing any worldbuilding. (As i say, i don't follow this advise and i'm basically stuck to worldbuilding and concepting.)

Second, advise about conlangs (and programming languages are arguably included).
Atomic Rocket, while being a scifi author resource, has things that are applicable to fantasy. Namely, the page about languages. Read it, it might have some pointers, ideas, or something useful. And take a look at the other pages as well, there is advise that is valid for all genres. Loijban may be the biggest thing, as that language basically doubles as a programming language, or something like that.
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/futurelang.php

Also, TV Tropes link for examples in other fiction. Maybe the page or the examples might give you pointers, all fiction borrows from others heavily anyway.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConLang

EDIT Oh, and i think the concept of magical programming language is interesting. That said, an interesting concept will need interesting characters and interesting ways to introduce it, or it will fall flat on its face.

And since it is about magic, this Brandon Sanderson's essay on limits on magic may be interesting read. And relevant, because programming-language-magic is almost certainly heavily limited, "hard"-form of magic.
http://brandonsanderson.com/sandersons-first-law/
http://brandonsanderson.com/sandersons-second-law/
http://brandonsanderson.com/sandersons-third-law-of-magic/
 

zulux21

Member
*wrote a masturbation joke scene last night that needs to be changed it was just filling the gap*

*reads it today*

damn it... it's actually not horrible lol.

anyone just make up something stupid recently and when you get back to it realize that you could make it work if you wanted to?
 
Those Sanderson laws on magic are an interesting read and now it makes me want to go back and define how magic works in my world a bit better.
 

mu cephei

Member
Having this weird problem. I got a bit of advice on this story I'm editing with the hopes of sending out hopefully this week. For a relatively short flashback scene (less than a page, but two decent paragraphs in length) to use past-perfect tense but if I do, then the only way I can think about it is then to have all the sentences use 'had' and that gets repetitive real quick. Might ignore their advice, as it is clear this is a flashback I think, but still ruminating on it.

The scene bellow incase anyone wants to see it in past-perfect and maybe give me some advice on how to handle this?

I think past perfect is fine, but the line below was kinda wonky:

the bolded should be changed to past perfect as well imo, so like 'she'd not been able to sleep' or something. And if readers find all the hads repetitive, you could just break up its repetition by contracting a few (as in, "he had" to "he'd").

I was (had been lol) recalling something I'd read, I looked it up. From Stein on Writing by Sol Stein:

A good flashback is a scene that is depicted exactly as it would be in the present story except for how it is introduced and how the present story is rejoined.
Certain words should carry warning labels for the writer. "Had" is the number-one villain. It spoils more flashbacks than any other word. Most fiction is written in the straight past tense. When writing flashbacks, as quickly as possible use the same tense you're using for the present scenes. That means in almost all cases the straight past tense, not the variants. Instead of saying, "I had been remembering..." say "I remembered..."
Here's an example of an author who gets tangled up in "hads" that are totally unnecessary:

I remember when my boss had called me into his office and had said, "Sit down." He had remained standing. In those days I was like a new army recruit, I had taken everything said to me as an order. I hadn't wanted to sit down with him looming over me.

When that author's editor finished, this is the way the text read:

I remember the time my boss called me into his office and said, "Sit down." He remained standing. In those days I was like a new army recruit, I took everything as an order, but damn if I wanted to sit with him looming over me.

.... In starting a flashback, your aim is to get into an immediate scene as soon as possible...

Maybe past perfect is clearer and more exact, because the flashback is so short? Maybe yours are the circumstances it's suitable to use it. But I would still try to find a way around it.
 

Woorloog

Banned
Long showers are good places to think. Made various characters and thing to click, form a whole. In theory. Probably should write them out too...
 

Mike M

Nick N
I logged into the Submission Grinder to catch up on my backlogs of logging responses and realized that one of these stories has gotten a personal rejection every time. Granted I only shopped it around to three markets so far, but make of it what you will.
 

FlowersisBritish

fleurs n'est pas britannique
Thanks Mu! That excerpt was the most helpful bit of advice I think I got on the subject!

I logged into the Submission Grinder to catch up on my backlogs of logging responses and realized that one of these stories has gotten a personal rejection every time. Granted I only shopped it around to three markets so far, but make of it what you will.

I'd take that as a good sign? Or rather take what victories you can get.
 

Figments

Member
First, advise i don't actually follow myself but is apparently pretty common and good advise, paraphrased: Write first, then think.
Worldbuilding without book is not visible. Surprisingly large amount of worldbuilding is just a matter or variables that do not necessarily change anything as things may depend on ratios.
You can fit the language into placeholder sections later. And you'll have better idea what you need and how much you need it.
Of course, worldbuilding in itself is interesting, whether or not one ever intends to publish, so don't take this as discouragement about doing any worldbuilding. (As i say, i don't follow this advise and i'm basically stuck to worldbuilding and concepting.)

Second, advise about conlangs (and programming languages are arguably included).
Atomic Rocket, while being a scifi author resource, has things that are applicable to fantasy. Namely, the page about languages. Read it, it might have some pointers, ideas, or something useful. And take a look at the other pages as well, there is advise that is valid for all genres. Loijban may be the biggest thing, as that language basically doubles as a programming language, or something like that.
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/futurelang.php

Also, TV Tropes link for examples in other fiction. Maybe the page or the examples might give you pointers, all fiction borrows from others heavily anyway.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConLang

EDIT Oh, and i think the concept of magical programming language is interesting. That said, an interesting concept will need interesting characters and interesting ways to introduce it, or it will fall flat on its face.

And since it is about magic, this Brandon Sanderson's essay on limits on magic may be interesting read. And relevant, because programming-language-magic is almost certainly heavily limited, "hard"-form of magic.
http://brandonsanderson.com/sandersons-first-law/
http://brandonsanderson.com/sandersons-second-law/
http://brandonsanderson.com/sandersons-third-law-of-magic/

Mm. This is helpful advice, thanks. :D

I guess my problem is, more or less, that languages such as Runic are integral to the story itself, seeing as each of the three main characters has some form of in-universe engineering background, or an interest in such fields, and thus much of the language that's established by the time the story begins changes shape over the course of the whole novel as the characters discover new principles, new theorems, new postulates.

So writing now without that foundation set firmly in place seems--at least to me--counterproductive. The writer in my wants to go ahead and write the damn thing, but the computer scientist in me says that the language(s) need to be, at the very least, rudimentary before I begin.

Language syntax needs to be in place and understood by all parties, both audience and characters.

How matrix language works needs to be understandable and functional, in-universe.

Et cetera, et cetera.

I'm at a really strange crossroads, to be honest.

But I'll try working out the kinks and simply start writing, since there are large parts of the story not necessarily dependent on the reader's ability to understand the magic system.
 

Soulfire

Member
Figured I'd post a quick writing challenge update. I'm 10.5K into novella #2.

You're doing great! I'm going to live vicariously through you lol

My son has been waking up every hour at night to be fed and I've just been too tired during the day to write. The most I'm getting done is writing in my hobonichi each day and writing blog posts about the movies I watch while breastfeeding. I'm only able to manage those because I keep them short.

I'm so close to finishing the first novella if I could sit down and crank out a couple thousand words I'd be done. It helps to be able to think coherently though. I'm hoping when he's six weeks things will get better, but we'll see.
 
I'm almost ready to see what Beta-Readers think of my novel
Just finishing touch ups to the final chapters.
I plan on asking on facebook, but I think I read before there's a ReadingGAF and it's okay to check in with that group to see if anyone is interested?

If so, does anyone also know some other communities that might provide test readers? I'm hoping to find 5-10 people to give it a once through.
 
I"ve cut almost 2k words out of the first sixty pages of my book because I am scum.

Took out an entire action sequence in chapter 9. It sucked and did nothing for the plot, but mostly it sucked and it was easier to delete it than fix it.
 

Emerson

May contain jokes =>
I just crossed 51,000 words on a novel I started writing in early November. Considering my schedule, I'm fairly pleased with my progress overall.
 

FlowersisBritish

fleurs n'est pas britannique
So I guess good news? By bar of quality has risen and it feels good! I finished up work on a really good short story that my roommate/best friend (And also the harshest critic I know, once they made me cry ;_;) said a lot of parts of it were amazing. So that feels really nice, to just feel like my general skill level has gone up. Now the trick is to more consistently hit that bar. Also planning to try and change how I create stories for a bit, so i hope that doesn't actually fuck me :<

Anyway we were talking about descriptions and they showed me this really cool thing I wanted to share. Its about Description Order and in what way words have to be for a description to make sense.


Opinion, Size, Age, Shape, Color, Origin, Material, Purpose, Noun

Lovely, little, old, rectangular, green, French, silver, whittling knife
 

FlowersisBritish

fleurs n'est pas britannique
Obviously anything that long will suck, but try three descriptors and a noun in that order and it sounds fine.

Edit: so things like pristine, steel, parying dagger or thick, red, construction paper or long, black, French braid.
 
I finally managed to write a few pages yesterday after a year of not writing shit. Thank you so much to the member who told me I could try just skipping over my current place in the part. If I didn't consider that then I might still be stuck right now.

I'm about to leave the house and go write some more today. Maybe I can finally finish this book, then edit it and start looking for publishers again.
 
Would this be the correct place to advertise a creatvie writing blog or is that over-stepping the sites rules on self promotion? I'd welcome new readers/more feedback, would it better to just post the entry in the thread?
 
Wrote some more a few days ago, and ended my writing session feeling like "Damn. That is good stuff." Today, I'm writing and can't help but feel like everything I'm putting down is a huge pile of crap. Kind of funny how wildly that feeling swings from one extreme to the other.
 
Wrote some more a few days ago, and ended my writing session feeling like "Damn. That is good stuff." Today, I'm writing and can't help but feel like everything I'm putting down is a huge pile of crap. Kind of funny how wildly that feeling swings from one extreme to the other.

I expressed similar feeling to a friend yesterday and he commented that most creative types he knows are exactly alike in that regard constantly jumping between the heights of a swelled ego and the precipice of utter defeat.
 
Top Bottom