WTF is fatphobic?

An argument I often hear is the whole "bodies come in all shapes and sizes", and this is 100% percent true. There are certainly people with larger frames/skeletal structures, and to an extent this makes things like BMI unreliable for these people. But there is a clear difference and I think any rational well intentioned person can tell if someone is fit/healthy or not based on their body frame. It's pretty obvious, body fat makes itself visible.
 
Claus Grimhildyr said:
I have heard this term numerous times from Brits, Australians, Germans, and more. Retards are not based in any particular country. .
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I was talking about personal experiences so did you. I never heard that word being used outside of American media. Although I agree, stupid people are everywhere and not bound to 1 specific country.
 
Jsisto said:
An argument I often hear is the whole "bodies come in all shapes and sizes", and this is 100% percent true. There are certainly people with larger frames/skeletal structures, and to an extent this makes things like BMI unreliable for these people. But there is a clear difference and I think any rational well intentioned person can tell if someone is fit/healthy or not based on their body frame. It's pretty obvious, body fat makes itself visible.
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Skeletal differences are trivial.

99.7% of people are overweight due to excess calories and lack of physical activity.
 
OZ9000 said:
Skeletal differences are trivial.

99.7% of people are overweight due to excess calories and lack of physical activity.
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So true.

You dont become 350 lbs by eating healthy food at daily recommended calorie intake. If it's some kind of prescription drug they are taking making them retain water or energy in some physics defying way than perhaps that can be a factor. Not sure, but doubtful.

As I said in one of my previous posts, if a fat person can prove they eat normal amounts of food and calories but some reason keeps gaining 10 lbs per year, their body goes against energy input/energy output physics. And the fact they are even retaining accumulating fat energy as a bonus means their body is somehow outputting more energy than food energy input.

Makes zero sense.

Even if someone does nothing all day but lie in bed (like you see on those TLC TV shows like the 800 lb man), who knows how much energy he needs per day to function sitting on a bed 24 hours, but it's pretty simple. Eat lower amounts of calories per day than his required bed sitting and he'll lose weight. But you see these guys chowing down on trays of cupcakes and and down an entire 2L jug of Pepsi. I love soft drinks and even I cant get through a jug of that on a hot summer night on a patio. And they don't understand why they are still fat. Insane.
 
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StreetsofBeige said:
So true.

You dont become 350 lbs by eating healthy food at daily recommended calorie intake. If it's some kind of prescription drug they are taking making them retain water or energy in some physics defying way than perhaps that can be a factor. Not sure, but doubtful.

As I said in one of my previous posts, if a fat person can prove they eat normal amounts of food and calories but some reason keeps gaining 10 lbs per year, their body goes against energy input/energy output physics. And the fact they are even retaining accumulating fat energy as a bonus means their body is somehow outputting more energy than food energy input.

Makes zero sense.

Even if someone does nothing all day but lie in bed (like you see on those TLC TV shows like the 800 lb man), who knows how much energy he needs per day to function sitting on a bed 24 hours, but it's pretty simple. Eat lower amounts of calories per day than his required bed sitting and he'll lose weight. But you see these guys chowing down on trays of cupcakes and and down an entire 2L jug of Pepsi. I love soft drinks and even I cant get through a jug of that on a hot summer night on a patio. And they don't understand why they are still fat. Insane.
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It's exceptionally easy to consume excessive calories, particularly if you spend your entire day at home. Snacks are literally the devil - chocolate, chips, cakes - they are hyper palatable but do not hit any satiety centers. To be honest I could eat an entire block of chocolate without batting an eyelid.

I suspect most overweight people do not have busy lives and therefore eat out of boredom.

Every person struggling with their weight should track their calories with Myfitnesspal.
 
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mortal said:
but I literally didn't. You implied that I did...

I said it was a term made up by liberals with a victimhood mentality, not that all liberals are the same. What the hell lol
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That's what you intended, what it sounded like is that you think liberals have victimhood mentality, hence my response.

Sorry if you felt under attack or something. I just see this somewhat generalizing language a lot, and it just irks me, heh.
 
NeoIkaruGAF said:
Not me. Banging a fat chick here, no regrets.
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Kimahri said:
That's what you intended, what it sounded like is that you think liberals have victimhood mentality, hence my response.

Sorry if you felt under attack or something. I just see this somewhat generalizing language a lot, and it just irks me, heh.
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How are you going to tell me what I intended? What is going on here? lol
You saw I mentioned the term liberal and then proceeded to assume that I was disparaging all liberals for some reason, despite the fact that I never said that.
Hell, you even went from arguing the (nonsensical) term fatphobic had nothing to do with liberals, only to then admit that it's "some" liberals.
The irony here is that you seem to believe that liberals with a victimhood mentality (which I specified) equate to basically every liberal.

Under attack? Not at all lol. Although I think I'm getting trolled right now tbh
 
Jsisto said:
An argument I often hear is the whole "bodies come in all shapes and sizes", and this is 100% percent true. There are certainly people with larger frames/skeletal structures, and to an extent this makes things like BMI unreliable for these people. But there is a clear difference and I think any rational well intentioned person can tell if someone is fit/healthy or not based on their body frame. It's pretty obvious, body fat makes itself visible.
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I thought this was a meme
angry eric cartman GIF by South Park
 
Zeroing said:
Start by taxing food companies that make really unhealthy food! Use that taxes to support the healthcare. We do it here! Same with alcohol and tabaco!

Organic food here is actually cheaper than fast food! It's amazing isn't?
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That could be a start, but I'm not even sure that's a solution. American lifestyle is so damn lazy, that even getting off their damn cars to order a burger is too much fucking work.

Look at how people live, they go to the suburbs or small cities where there are just parking lots, strip malls and endless roads. Nowhere to walk, the epitome of a sedentary lifestyle. No physical activity plus super high calorie diet = fat bastards.
 
Azurro said:
That could be a start, but I'm not even sure that's a solution. American lifestyle is so damn lazy, that even getting off their damn cars to order a burger is too much fucking work.

Look at how people live, they go to the suburbs or small cities where there are just parking lots, strip malls and endless roads. Nowhere to walk, the epitome of a sedentary lifestyle. No physical activity plus super high calorie diet = fat bastards.
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Yes, but this is where government regulation comes in. If you incentivise a certain behaviour you will see the change. This is not a concept foreign to the US, look what happened when seatbelts became obligatory - car accidents and resulting injuries dropped dramatically.
 
John Bilbo said:
I thought this was a meme
angry eric cartman GIF by South Park
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Its not. Probably doesn't apply to the great majority of people that use it as an excuse, but it's an undeniable truth that everyone's body is built different. It's true in the opposite way too. For example, I have a very small frame even for my short height. The only time I've weighed what would be "normal"in the bmi range I was a little chubby. Otherwise, I have always been typically fit/healthy and eat plenty and I've always been "underweight".

And please, before anybody accuses me of making excuses for people, please read exactly what I've said. That's not what I'm doing.
 
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I love to go to the gym. When I'm not active I can def start to gain weight but luckily I've mostly kept that in check.

I also like to see bigger people working out and working hard. That always gets props from me. Its not easy when you get into that viscous cycle. Its easier to "accept yourself" than to put yourself in an uncomfortable position like a gym or running in public when you are overweight. That being said if someone wants to remain fat then more power to them. But just understand the risks of diabetes, joint issues/arthritis, mobility issues later in life etc.


Also I saw this picture recently and I laughed like hell. Does that make me fat phobic. At least homie is working out right?

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For someone who foods almost does nothing for this whole diet discussion is simply perplexing. Just don't eat.

Mind you, I can easily go from eating 5+ thousand calories of trash on one day to almost fasting the next day with no problems whatsoever. I would actually say that I love fasting more than eating and only do one huge cheat day so I don't loose too much weight because of the fasting. :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 
The "-phobia" suffix has been twisted by radical ideologues to mean something it doesn't and used as an insult against people who don't exist within their echo chamber.

I don't fear or hate trans people; If a guy wants to dress up like a woman and even go so far as to have a surgery to invert his cock, more power to him. I don't fear or hate fat people; If someone wants to eat their way to an episode of "My 1000lb. life", again, more power to them.

Where I do take umbrage is when those people begin enforcing their views on the majority. The same people who scream at the top of their lungs that we need to "trust the science" on climate change and COVID protocols/vaccines are also the ones who disregard decades, if not centuries, of biological and medical science when they push their "fat is healthy!" or "trans women are women!" ideologies.

There is nothing healthy about being fat or morbidly obese and I've seen more than one discussion topic on other forums or social media outlets where people genuinely think their doctors should be delicensed for even suggesting weight loss for health reasons. I'm 40 pounds overweight and I feel the effects that has on me every single day. Anyone who argues that "fat is healthy" is in absolute denial about the medical stress they are putting their bodies under every day, and they use "fatphobia" as a way to mask their denial by playing victim.
 
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Badlucktroll said:
Isn't the craving of sugar an evolutionary flaw, and its about as healthy and nutritous as eating animal dung?
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It's not really a flaw as fruits were desirable for various reason and were relatively rare (seasonal) and to get at that sugar you got a lot of fiber and other good stuff to come with it. Nowadays, we can just inject the that shit into anything and make it toxic
 
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Was listening to an interview on NPR on my way to work recently and someone was making this exactargument. It was so horrible but I had to keep listening just to know how insane it would get. "listen to your body", I "toxic diet culture", "wellness", "self care", fuck, they even someone managed to tie white supremacy and the patriarchy into the conversation and I'm just sitting there thinking "what is this conversation even ABOUT!?". Was so bad but I couldn't help but keep listening.
 
I just read the Wikipedia page for "#nodietday" and it's one of the most nihilistic, depressing thing I've ever read. Who the hell is funding this, frito lay?
 
Fatphobia is such a stupid concept.
It's fat people pretending they suffer from something similar to racism or homophobia while ignoring that, unlike your race or sexual orientation, being fat is a choice (at least for the vast majority).

The only fat people I feel sorry for are young children, whom I consider to be victims of abuse.
 
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Jsisto said:
Was listening to an interview on NPR on my way to work recently and someone was making this exactargument. It was so horrible but I had to keep listening just to know how insane it would get. "listen to your body", I "toxic diet culture", "wellness", "self care", fuck, they even someone managed to tie white supremacy and the patriarchy into the conversation and I'm just sitting there thinking "what is this conversation even ABOUT!?". Was so bad but I couldn't help but keep listening.
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If I listened to my body I would be 300 lbs overweight.

I am constantly hungry. I have the desire to eat 12 Krispy Kreme donuts in a row.

Instead I have to settle with controlling my appetite and working out so I can look like this
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Jsisto said:
Was listening to an interview on NPR on my way to work recently and someone was making this exactargument. It was so horrible but I had to keep listening just to know how insane it would get. "listen to your body", I "toxic diet culture", "wellness", "self care", fuck, they even someone managed to tie white supremacy and the patriarchy into the conversation and I'm just sitting there thinking "what is this conversation even ABOUT!?". Was so bad but I couldn't help but keep listening.
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hm....link?
 
Jsisto said:
Was listening to an interview on NPR on my way to work recently and someone was making this exactargument. It was so horrible but I had to keep listening just to know how insane it would get. "listen to your body", I "toxic diet culture", "wellness", "self care", fuck, they even someone managed to tie white supremacy and the patriarchy into the conversation and I'm just sitting there thinking "what is this conversation even ABOUT!?". Was so bad but I couldn't help but keep listening.
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National Propaganda Radio. Almost all their content is like that. They preach their own version of the gospel like they're a bunch of saints doing the lords work. Bottom line though, anyone who says being fat is healthy or tries to outsource blame, isn't someone I want anything to do with. It's sick

There are different reasons people struggle with weight loss or gain, but 99% of cases boil down to enacting positive life choices
 
OZ9000 said:
If I listened to my body I would be 300 lbs overweight.

I am constantly hungry. I have the desire to eat 12 Krispy Kreme donuts in a row.

Instead I have to settle with controlling my appetite and working out so I can look like this
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Hungry for donuts in not actually hungry mate - it's called being hungry for garbage and has more to do with addiction than with hunger.
Try eating clean all day long. When you end up being hungry in this case THEN you are actually hungry for food.

Everyone who has weight problem is having it because he eats too much trash. Gaining unhealthy weight when eating clean is bloody torture.
 
JimmyRustler said:
Hungry for donuts in not actually hungry mate - it's called being hungry for garbage and has more to do with addiction than with hunger.
Try eating clean all day long. When you end up being hungry in this case THEN you are actually hungry for food.

Everyone who has weight problem is having it because he eats too much trash. Gaining unhealthy weight when eating clean is bloody torture.
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I try to eat clean and maintain a healthy weight all year round - only because I count my calories.

However I also have a severe sweet tooth. My stomach is also a black hole.

I love food. But I hate being fat.
 
OZ9000 said:
I try to eat clean and maintain a healthy weight all year round - only because I count my calories.

However I also have a severe sweet tooth. My stomach is also a black hole.

I love food. But I hate being fat.
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It's fair to say that you have a sweet tooth but your stomach is not a black hole for food. It's a black hole for garbage.

I hate it when people say they love food when they actually just love eating trash. That has more to do with addiction than actual hunger for food. We just do not label it as addiction... yet.
 
JimmyRustler said:
It's fair to say that you have a sweet tooth but your stomach is not a black hole for food. It's a black hole for garbage.

I hate it when people say they love food when they actually just love eating trash. That has more to do with addiction than actual hunger for food. We just do not label it as addiction... yet.
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I can also eat 500g chicken in one sitting.

Trust me, I can eat a lot.

I am never in a state of being content. But perhaps you're right. I am addicted to eating garbage.

Fortunately vast majority of my diet is healthy and I maintain a healthy body fat all year round.
 
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OZ9000 said:
I can also eat 500g chicken in one sitting.

Trust me, I can eat a lot.

I am never in a state of being content.
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And what is that supposed to tell me? Eat how much chicken, oats, brown rice, pasta, peanut butter etc. that you possibly can without any trash whatsoever for two months and then report back if a) your stomach is still a black hole and b) if you have gained any significant weight. Then we can talk again about your struggles to not get fat because of "food".
 
JimmyRustler said:
And what is that supposed to tell me? Eat how much chicken, oats, brown rice, pasta, peanut butter etc. that you possibly can without any trash whatsoever for two months and then report back if a) your stomach is still a black hole and b) if you have gained any significant weight. Then we can talk again about your struggles to not get fat because of "food".
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Yes the vast majority of my diet comprises of chicken, oats, protein shakes, wraps etc. Although chocolate is my vice. Nevertheless, if I indulge in one day, I will fast the next day. A lesson most people could learn.

If everyone was mindful of their calories, they would never get fat.
 
I've lost 67 lbs. over the course of the past 2 years. I haven't really put a lot of effort into it, either. Just cut out regular soda and replaced it with Diet/Zero Sugar soda instead and I drink a lot more water now. I started out at 325 lbs. and now I'm at 258 lbs. Still not where I want to be, but I definitely feel healthier and better about myself than I did when I started this adventure. I want to start a jogging regime, but I'm pressed for time these days so it might be hard.
 
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Welcome to a world that social media has completely ruined. It has allowed a fringe minority of severely mentally ill degenerates to reshape our society in their image.

As a result these are now the most offensive things you can say:

-Men can't get pregnant.
-Women don't have penises.
-Being obese is unhealthy.
-The content of one's character is more important than their skin color.
-Kids under the age of 8 shouldn't be sexualized or taught anything of a sexual nature.

Welcome to 2022 people and it's far from over. You're witnessing the fall of the West.
 
Boss Mog said:
Welcome to a world that social media has completely ruined. It has allowed a fringe minority of severely mentally ill degenerates to reshape our society in their image.

As a result these are now the most offensive things you can say:

-Men can't get pregnant.
-Women don't have penises.
-Being obese is unhealthy.
-The content of one's character is more important than their skin color.
-Kids under the age of 16 shouldn't be sexualized or taught anything of a sexual nature (except sex ed in school).

Welcome to 2022 people and it's far from over. You're witnessing the fall of the West.
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Fixed that for you.

Society is frankly fucked.
 
Boss Mog said:
As a result these are now the most offensive things you can say:

-Men can't get pregnant.
-Women don't have penises.
-Being obese is unhealthy.
-The content of one's character is more important than their skin color.
-Kids under the age of 16 shouldn't be sexualized or taught anything of a sexual nature (except sex ed in school).
- Church and state should be kept completely separate
- Women should have the right to choose what to do with their bodies.
- Nobody needs to own guns.
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Double FTFY.

The idea that offence is only taken by people on one side is inaccurate. The left are just newer at it, and more screamy.

Also, the west isn't going anywhere. It's fine.
 
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OZ9000 said:
It's exceptionally easy to consume excessive calories, particularly if you spend your entire day at home. Snacks are literally the devil - chocolate, chips, cakes - they are hyper palatable but do not hit any satiety centers. To be honest I could eat an entire block of chocolate without batting an eyelid.

I suspect most overweight people do not have busy lives and therefore eat out of boredom.

Every person struggling with their weight should track their calories with Myfitnesspal.
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The secret is to snack with low caloric stuff.

When i'm doing cutting, i eat a shitload of raw fennel when i'm watching tv or playing games, that thing is almost all water, zero sugar or fats, only 31 calories for 100gr.


Watermelon and asparagus are also great cheat food (watermelon has some sugar tho)

In that way you can always have a full belly and not suffering the hunger or the munchies.

I mean, you still suffer a bit because vegetables are not in the same realm of meat or junk food in term of taste of course.
 
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