X-Men 3 Teaser Poster (56K = out)
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Macam said:After seeing Batman Begins, comic book movies are dead to me. Do it right, or leave it alone.
batman begins was that bad?
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will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
That drawing is fucking awesome....Macam said:After seeing Batman Begins, comic book movies are dead to me. Do it right, or leave it alone.
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Maybe this one will be in color. 
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Macam said:
i thought that was what you were implying, but wasn't sure. and that drawing in your first post IS f'ing awesome. they need to give us a comic book movie that looks like that. imagine sin city with more color and cg effects that make the punisher's guns blast like that... why can't they get more 'artistic' with these movies instead of making them so 'realistic'?
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Mark my words, and track this god damn thread. Ratner will make X3 the best Xmen movie of them all.ManaByte said:
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You too will be owned Wilco. By next summer.... we shall see.Willco said:
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<rant>For me, I just tend to loathe the way they make all these movies follow the same mindless pattern. I don't mind the occasional popcorn movie like Blade, but they trot these things out annually with no real exploration of the characters. Granted, these are all largely superhero comics, but there's been some real substance that's come out of these series over the years that would add more weight and longevity to these franchises than simply cranking out some new special effects film. Hulk was close as anyone got to attempting to explore the characters closer up, but the movie itself wasn't terribly good by any stretch of the imagination (though I still enjoyed it for some reason). I'm dreading to see how they expand the X-Men's cardboard thin cast with X3. I think comic franchises offer up a pretty interesting film world to open up since given their long lineage, they can offer some interesting character exploration and build from film to film, similar to HBO's popular television series, but that won't ever happen given the costs.</rant>
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The fact that 3/4 of GAF already thinks that the movie will be shit because Ratner is directing is quite laughable. Track records in Hollywood (especially with franchise movies) don't mean a thing. Sure, it would've been nice to have everyone stay on that worked on the first two, but life goes on.Willco said:
Quite frankly, I find it sad that most have written off Ratner as I purpose he's going to do a killer job.
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ManaByte said:
where can I read about it?
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Macam said:<rant>For me, I just tend to loathe the way they make all these movies follow the same mindless pattern. I don't mind the occasional popcorn movie like Blade, but they trot these things out annually with no real exploration of the characters. Granted, these are all largely superhero comics, but there's been some real substance that's come out of these series over the years that would add more weight and longevity to these franchises than simply cranking out some new special effects film. Hulk was close as anyone got to attempting to explore the characters closer up, but the movie itself wasn't terribly good by any stretch of the imagination (though I still enjoyed it for some reason). I'm dreading to see how they expand the X-Men's cardboard thin cast with X3. I think comic franchises offer up a pretty interesting film world to open up since given their long lineage, they can offer some interesting character exploration and build from film to film, similar to HBO's popular television series, but that won't ever happen given the costs.</rant>
i agree, but i still think they could do some things visually and artistically to set these movies apart. also, in doing so, we could get the characters in the normal costumes and not the all black rubber/latex get-up most seem to get.
for me, sin city was awesome both visually and story-wise. the world was believable, but obviously not the one we live in. burton achieved this with the batman films to some degree, but obviously his version of gotham doesn't quite fit the comics.
also, while i didn't enjoy the hulk at all, i thought some of the editing where it was like comic panels was quite cool.
i guess all i'm saying is that a little artistic flair could help these movies be even truer to the comics. i think part of the problem is that they try and bring all of these stories/characters into our world and then they have to make sacrifices to the history/orgin by trying to ground everything in our reality.
as far as character development goes... to be honest, most people don't wanna go see a super-hero movie with great character development. they wanna go see shit get blown up and what not.
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Spin control!
Moriarty has come out afterwards and said that it's basically spin control, even to go as low as to post on the SHH! forums. And he's got some credibility as he works in the movie industry and knows a lot of high level people. So I don't think he's lying. He's not some random Internet guy.
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someone tell me the plot!
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Bah, a 400k movie poster isn't enough to warrant a "56k no" tag.
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Well, considering how they've already announced a Wolverine movie to follow X3, maybe they figured too much Wolvie would be a bad thing. Save some of it for his own movie.
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Even if Ratner fucks it up I will not be able to blame him for it. The guy is being called in and within days of taking the job he's going to be shooting. No preproduction, no input, no anything. He has no idea what the previous ideas the other directors had for the material nor will he know why they made the decisions they did.
John Frankenheimer was in the same situation for Island of Doctor Moreau.
The script is one thing but making the movie is a whole other and imagine standing there at some set you didn't design, costumes you didn't approve, actors you didn't hire and you have to get something done! That is a tough position to be in.
John Frankenheimer was in the same situation for Island of Doctor Moreau.
The script is one thing but making the movie is a whole other and imagine standing there at some set you didn't design, costumes you didn't approve, actors you didn't hire and you have to get something done! That is a tough position to be in.
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VictimOfGrief said:
Are you nuts? Track records mean everything. I can't think of any director who's known for mediocre schlock that magically escaped the stink of his own scent. Film is a directors medium, if it sucks, I blame him. His eye controls the outcome. It'll surely be full of really bold primary colors, and very loud, but good? No way.
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A bigger problem with Ratner is he knows jack shit about the material. He just wants to see his name on a big project like X-Men (or Superman before it).
When he was attached to Superman, he told LatinoReview that "Kids today don't know those movies; they were done 20 years ago. 10-year-old kids know SUPERMAN, but they don't know the mythology."
Except he didn't know anything about the Superman mythology because the disaster that was the JJ Abrams script he was going to direct had Kal-El and Lex Luthor being Kryptonian cousins, Krypton DOES NOT explode, the Superman suit is organic and it comes from a can, baby Clark beats up a rapist as he's raping Ma Kent, and Lex Luthor and Superman have a mid-air kung fu battle right out of The Matrix. Ratner called the script "Fucking awesome" in the interview.
DMczaf said:
New production diary where Singer shows the ice set that will lead to a big reveal of the Fortress of Solitude:
http://www.bluetights.net/video_large.php?id=16
BTW, they're using the same Fortress of Solitude from the Donner movies so it's not that big of a spoiler.
Plus, in the Abrams script, Jimmy Olsen was gay. And Superman dies, but he goes to Heaven and his dad senses his death on the non-exploding Krypton, kills himself and tells Supes, "What the fuck!?! Get back in your body, you maggot!"
And he wills himself back to life.
Fucking awesome indeed.
And he wills himself back to life.
Fucking awesome indeed.
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