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[OniShiro]

Sorry if old.

According to IGN the core developers for the 360 have received this week the Beta Kits for the 360.

Hopefully we will see the results soon if we are led to believe that the alpha kits were only about 30% as powerful as the 360.

 

[Chittagong]

px pls thx bye

 

[op_ivy]

pretty sure they've had them for more then a week

 

[newsguy]

Sorry if old.

According to IGN the core developers for the 360 have received this week the Beta Kits for the 360.

Hopefully we will see the results soon if we are led to believe that the alpha kits were only about 30% as powerful as the 360.

*sheds a tear for Oni knowing the ridicule that old news incites*

 

[sly]

Trolls left until permaban: 1

:lol

And yes its old. Very old.

 

[raYne]

It's not his fault, it's IGN's main story. :lol

Anyhow, devs have been slowly getting them since early June.

sly,
Yeah I lol'd when I saw it too. Especially since he edited in the last line to throw a little jab at MS. :lol

 

[Blimblim]

Developers have the first beta kits since almost a month now. I think the third shipment was just received this week. Alpha kits are still most commonly used by non coders.
And then in about one month the first final debug systems will be shipped, that's the plan I've been told at least. The press should get their systems at the end september, but the plan is to have lots of consoles ready during august to have lots of demos running at the different expos (starting with Game Convention in Leipzig hopefully)

 

[OniShiro]

Sorry, I saw it at ign and thought it was new.

It wasn't my intention to jab at microsoft, what I meant is that if developers were working in 30% performance, now they should be able to upgrade the graphics having a better idea of the 360 real power, unless they are lazy, because while some games like "Gears Of War" or "PGR3" looks awesome others don't look impressive at all.

 

[sprsk]

when are we gonna start seeing movies of stuff running off beta kits?

 

[Blimblim]

when are we gonna start seeing movies of stuff running off beta kits?

Depends on the developers, some may not want to show anything moving until they have the final kits. Hopefully there will be some interesting stuff at the japanese press event in a few weeks.

 

[Shogmaster]

unless they are lazy, because while some games like "Gears Of War" or "PGR3" looks awesome others don't look impressive at all.

Gears of War footage was never shown on Alpha kits (all GOW realtime footage came from 6800U SLI PCs), and Bizzare never showed videos running realtime on the Alpha kits either (which was pretty smart in retrospect).

 

[element]

i could have told you this two weeks ago

 

[3rdman]

Typical IGN...I remember once they tempted the trolls on their boards to wait until midnight for a BIG surprise. When it finally came, it was nothing other than screenshots of a game nobody cared about and (to add insult to injury) the pics were available for over a month on Gamespot! They suck.

 

[PhatSaqs]

i could have told you this two weeks ago

Whats in them? Whatdoesitlooklike?

Anyone?

 

[gofreak]

Whats in them?

I believe they're supposed to be feature complete, right Element? But some things may not be at thier final clockspeeds, for example.

 

[element]

I believe they're supposed to be feature complete, right Element? But some things may not be at thier final clockspeeds, for example.

that is about right.

 

[Discordian_taco]

Final hardware is done and being shipped....I have seen it.

 

[3rdman]

What do they look like? Kinda ironic with all the leaks MS had to endure prior to E3 that we've managed to see a PS3 devkit before an X360 one.

 

[Discordian_taco]

I am under NDA so I am not really sure what I can and can't talk about....

 

[Blimblim]

They look like the final hardware, only the hard drive is slightly bigger and the color is different.

 

[OniShiro]

transparent green?

 

[Jesiatha]

transparent green?

No. But Stinkles gave a very large hint as to the color a couple weeks ago.

 

[Datawhore]

They're black.

 

[Blimblim]

They're black.

We have a winner !

 

[PhatSaqs]

I am under NDA so I am not really sure what I can and can't talk about....

Awesome info ......

 

[Discordian_taco]

They're black.

We have a winner !

Nope...not anymore.

 

[Blimblim]

Nope...not anymore.

So only the beta kits are black... Interesting. If the final debug kits are in production now, it means the beta have only been used for like one month. What a waste.

 

[gofreak]

Is final debug the final final dev kit? Feature complete and full speed?

And these are in production now?

 

[Datawhore]

So only the beta kits are black... Interesting. If the final debug kits are in production now, it means the beta have only been used for like one month. What a waste.

It was still valuable to transition from Alpha to Beta a month earlier. Every week counts.

 

[Chittagong]

So I'm assuming that for a Nov launch the release to certification has to be around mid-late September latest - and that means that MS must be very well staffed.

So, basically all content needs to be in around early-mid August, a bit over a month from now. Next month is absolutely critical in that sense, I guess why Itagaki-san was hesistant to pull staff to do a trailer for the July event in Japan.

If we are seeing wallguy still in August, that means trouble. Blizzard seems to have it all under control. Very vice decision to skip E3, in my opinion.

 

[newsguy]

If we are seeing wallguy still in August, that means trouble.

:lol

Even if we don't see him, he'll always be in our hearts... and avatars.

 

[sprsk]

So only the beta kits are black... Interesting. If the final debug kits are in production now, it means the beta have only been used for like one month. What a waste.

the sooner the better

 

[Blimblim]

the sooner the better

Yeah I know, I know. But still they produced hundreds of these and they will scrap them just one month later. Kinda pointless to even use a special color if it's for so short a time.

 

[Discordian_taco]

Is final debug the final final dev kit? Feature complete and full speed?

And these are in production now?

Yes, Yes, and Yes.

 

[Kleegamefan]

ignore this post....

 

[mrklaw]

Yeah I know, I know. But still they produced hundreds of these and they will scrap them just one month later. Kinda pointless to even use a special color if it's for so short a time.

they'll still be used for quite a while though. At least until full devkits are freely available, they can be used for basic testing, art debug units etc. And as datawhore said, every moment counts.

 

[element]

they'll still be used for quite a while though. At least until full devkits are freely available, they can be used for basic testing, art debug units etc. And as datawhore said, every moment counts.

Door stop and paper weight as well

 

[Kewk]

Sorry if old.

According to IGN the core developers for the 360 have received this week the Beta Kits for the 360.

Hopefully we will see the results soon if we are led to believe that the alpha kits were only about 30% as powerful as the 360.

We have had them for over a month now.

 

[Prine]

to all the 360 devs, how much of an improvement are the new dev kits ?

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

to all the 360 devs, how much of an improvement are the new dev kits ?

Someone answer this!