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Xbox 360: Good, but not great
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ManDudeChild
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I'm not keeping track so, just to get me up to speed: how many of these stupid "Xbox 360 review _______" threads are needed exactly? Jeeze, it's just a new game system.
BlueTsunami
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ManDudeChild said:
Wait till the PS3 comes around
Dr. Strangelove
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Clearly Nintendo and Sony have joined forces to place a giant moneyhat on the mainstream media.
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Dr. Strangelove said:
:lol
I swear, i'm in disbelief at the bad "critisism" this system is getting with the mainstream press.
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Media peeps keep trying to convince me that I should skip out on next-gen until I can afford a HDTV. 
GitarooMan
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marc^o^ said:
Just curious, could you elaborate....I see one big difference and it's two letters long, hint everyone around here hates them.
Seriously, I think it's too soon to tell, but I am pretty confident that this will not be DC mainly because the third party support seems more solid and MS is on much better footing, but who knows?
ManDudeChild
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jedimike said:
True, true. Guess I just find this hype annoying.
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Gantz said:
Please, the PS2 had a number of fantastic titles in about a year (in the US, anyway). If Xbox360 can't deliver some must-have games by Christmas of 2006 it will be safe to say that it is struggling.
edit: Also, the launch backwards compability of the PS2 was of course vastly superior to the 360's.
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marc^o^ said:
:lol
I wasn't either
;_;
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Gantz said:
Sorry, but just because YOU thought the PS2's library was garbage for three years doesn't make it so. GTA3, GT3, FFX, Silent Hill 2, SSX, Metal Gear Solid 2, Devil May Cry...all of these games were out by the following holiday season and are generally considered to be AAA titles...in addition to a vast number of "niche" titles that may not have been for the average gamer but that I personally enjoyed....GGX, Frequency, Baldur's Gate: DA, etc.
To say that the PS2 was not a success by the end of 2001 is some pretty ridiculous bullshit.
Actually, you're going to benefit more out of current backwards compatible Xbox games on the 360, because as far as i know, they will all run in 720p glory, which makes them that more attractive and actually give some of them a somewhat mid-next gen feel. So in that sense, they actually might be more appealing than a full blown catalog of backwards compatible PS2 games on the PS3 if they run exactly as they do right now. (though we still don't know if there'll be similar improvements on the PS3's ability with backwards compatible PS1 and PS2 games)
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JMPovoa said:
That's a really good point, actually...I'm mostly referring to the parents who scrape together 300 for the tard pack thinking they'll get the same BC as the $400 version and ending up screwed.
Keep the good laughs coming:
5 Reasons the 360 Will Bomb.
5 Reasons the 360 Will Bomb.
Pretty good article, and I agree with most of it (its alot better than that last tripe article).
The fact is there is no Giant OMG game. Not until we get Oblivion, Gears and Halo, the 360 wont break into the big time IMO. But will the big games be ready to actually make a difference before the PS3 shows is the big question.
For me, im giddy just to play with the high rez graphics and the cleaned up xbox games, but im a gamer, for most that wont be enough.
I dont think it mentions the PS3 at all...
The fact is there is no Giant OMG game. Not until we get Oblivion, Gears and Halo, the 360 wont break into the big time IMO. But will the big games be ready to actually make a difference before the PS3 shows is the big question.
For me, im giddy just to play with the high rez graphics and the cleaned up xbox games, but im a gamer, for most that wont be enough.
I dont think it mentions the PS3 at all...
That's a very reasonable, but not entirely agreeable review of the 360 on day one. I'm not entirely sure you can just say that the launch titles look like Xbox + games without mentioning the exceptions; the article gave too little notice to the really amazing games there were, PGR3 included. All in all, though, it's hard to say this column brings the 360 closer to the Dreamcast.
That's not unreasonable for a day one review. When a second wave hits is when more people will be turned, assuming it's done right.
Y2Kevbug11 said:
#1: Don't be a tool bag.
#2: "His or her" usually destroys the readability of a document, which is exactly why it's never used in anything that people are ever going to read for pleasure. While grammatically incorrect, it's an absolute media standard to use "their" in cases as these, and in truth, the media's common usage of the language is absolutely what determines which direction grammar develops in. So unless what they wrote is clearly against the norm (and in this case, having used "his or her" would have been against the norm), journalists can't make mistakes.
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Yeah "their" is iffy in that usage but definitely okay by modern grammatical standards. Get with the times dude.
Yep.argon said:
XBOX360 is nothing like the DC. The DC was released with a killer lineup, amazing visuals, a low price, and great press. EVERYONE was very positive about the DC at release. Sure, those "PS2 rumblings" were there, but they were not strong at that time.
Of course, the difference here, is that XBOX360 has a popular brand attached to it. XBOX is now well known, while Sega wasn't exactly popular when the DC was launched.
Uhh, "a few" would be, like, 4 years. The PS2 took no more than a year (from the JP date) to become a solid system...and within a year of its US release had a truly amazing lineup. Fall 2001 was godly for PS2...and is what made me such a big fan of the system today (I sure as hell wasn't when it launched).
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puebla said:
...this actually comes as a surprise to you?
Surprisingly, this is a pretty good article. Much like the PS2 (to a larger degree in fact, considering this is the first time a new generation has started in America), the 360 is seeing a lot of unjustified hype and leniency towards it's initial lineup, and it's pretty clear a few of the big name sites (*cough*IGN*cough*Gamespot*cough*) are scoring some of the launch titles quite a bit higher than I bet they'll feel they deserve even 3 months from now.
When it comes to the first next gen games, I always take the numerical scores with a grain of salt, because almost unanimously across every single title, in hindsight the scores end up being at least a point or so higher than they deserve. Thusly, I've been quite surprised at how averagely (um, it's a word... sorta) many of the 360 games are scoring. All the sports games look to be a shade or two above average at best, Kameo seems destined to age poorly and the outlook on PD0 is, well, not good to say the least.
PGR3 looks to be one of the only mildly memorable titles of this launch (some might add CoD2 as well, but I venemately disagree with that notion based on my experience with the demo and the content of every review posted so far), but I think it's painfully obvious that MS rushed it, and after all the 'best launch ever' hype they built, are now paying for it in the mainstream press.
Nonetheless, some of the more adamant 360 fans on this board are going to have to learn to deal with some criticism on this launch (because I think even more will come when the system actually hits) and also realize that criticizing the launch doesn't mean someone is also implying the system will fail. The PS2 launch was diverse, but also kinda weak, and yet it has become the most successful system of all time.
When it comes to the first next gen games, I always take the numerical scores with a grain of salt, because almost unanimously across every single title, in hindsight the scores end up being at least a point or so higher than they deserve. Thusly, I've been quite surprised at how averagely (um, it's a word... sorta) many of the 360 games are scoring. All the sports games look to be a shade or two above average at best, Kameo seems destined to age poorly and the outlook on PD0 is, well, not good to say the least.
PGR3 looks to be one of the only mildly memorable titles of this launch (some might add CoD2 as well, but I venemately disagree with that notion based on my experience with the demo and the content of every review posted so far), but I think it's painfully obvious that MS rushed it, and after all the 'best launch ever' hype they built, are now paying for it in the mainstream press.
Nonetheless, some of the more adamant 360 fans on this board are going to have to learn to deal with some criticism on this launch (because I think even more will come when the system actually hits) and also realize that criticizing the launch doesn't mean someone is also implying the system will fail. The PS2 launch was diverse, but also kinda weak, and yet it has become the most successful system of all time.
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Gantz said:
Why didn't anybody warn me that I was trying to have a debate with a moron?
ManDudeChild said:
All of them. I can't think of the last time a new console had really gotten much of any. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the media follows. We might even get fair and balanced reporting.
This would mark a huge shift in the pecking order of games.
No longer is it just "Steve Kent knows what he's doing and everyone else is a moron," now there are several online-based journalists--many of whom post here or read our opinions here--with a gaming slant. People who write for papers and local TV stations are very likely to see their more informed opinions and then build their own stories around that.
Fascinating case study on journalism of the progress of a new medium, if nothing else.
