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[stewy]

Just had an interesting conversation with MS tech support about 360 Live over wireless.

Mine just wouldn't work. Kept saying my MTU was set too low on my router (which wasn't the case). This router worked perfectly in tandem with my Linksys Wireless B game adapter on the Xbox 1.

So I called in tonight and worked with the very helpful girl on the other end of the line, and we got the 360 hardwired to the router to prove that combination worked. No problem. Then tried the wireless setup again, no go.

When I explained to her that I used that Linksys box for the wireless connection, she said she thought that might be the problem. They've been told 360 Live on wireless will only work with the 360 wireless adapter (indeed, when you test your connection it looks for the adapter for the wireless setup).

I'm gonna pick up the 360 adapter ASAP and see if that works. If so...looks like Linksys game adapter folks might be out of luck?

 

[Wollan]

Ahah! The evil plan reveals itself. Nothing but the Rip off(oty) can be used.

EDIT: I have to buy one of these suckers myself. :/

 

[Suikoguy]

This could get real interesting,

if thats true and it somehow knows your using a wireless extender, and blocks it.. wow, just wow

 

[stewy]

Yeah. I want to reiterate that I have no idea if this is true or not. The poor girl at Xbox tech support was fielding her very first 360 call with me, so she was obviously reading from whatever script popped up for the situation.

 

[Luscious LeftFoot]

Yikes... that adapter's 120CDN.

 

[siamesedreamer]

Can someone explain this in dumbass terms?

I use a Linksys G wireless router with the Linksys G wireless gaming adapter for my Xbox. Are you saying this set up does not work with the 360?

 

[D-Back]

Damn that would suck, I was hoping that when I do get an xbox 360, I could just plug in one of my cheap usb wifi adapters.

 

[SkinSider]

I already used mine with a Linksysy WET 11, and that of course worked fine.

 

[stewy]

Can someone explain this in dumbass terms?

I use a Linksys G wireless router with the Linksys G wireless gaming adapter for my Xbox. Are you saying this set up does not work with the 360?

yes. I'm saying that according to what I was told, the wireless gaming adapter will not work with the 360. Again, I don't have any proof of this outside the fact that my wireless-b gaming adapter worked fine with the Xbox 1, and won't work with the 360.

According to MS tech support, the only wireless connection option is to use the official MS 360 wireless adapter.

 

[Cerebral Palsy]

That sucks. Good thing my 360 will be close to my router.

 

[Suikoguy]

I already used mine with a Linksysy WET 11, and that of course worked fine.

Ok, I figured that was a little much. Seemed impossible to detect :lol

 

[DenogginizerOS]

I doubt this. EGM reported in the most recent issue that your old XBOX wireless adapter will work with the 360. A wireless adapter or "bridge" plugged into your ethernet port on the X360 should work just fine.

 

[stewy]

I doubt this. EGM reported in the most recent issue that your old XBOX wireless adapter will work with the 360. A wireless adapter or "bridge" plugged into your ethernet port on the X360 should work just fine.

Yeah I did that.

My issue now is that my router isn't on their list of compatible routers (though it worked fine with Xbox 1), but it's also not on their list of incompatible routers from D-Link

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Which router is it?

 

[stewy]

DI-512

Now I'm wondering if I should bother getting the 360 adapter or not...but I just can't figure out why this current setup isn't working. The PS2 and Xbox liked it just fine.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Does your adapter support -G as well as -B?

 

[stewy]

Does your adapter support -G as well as -B?

No, it's the Wireless-B.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

From Team XBOX FAQ:

I know the new Wi-Fi adapter for the Xbox 360 is USB based, but will we be able to use the current Xbox wireless network adapter with the new Xbox 360?

Yes, you’ll be able to use any Ethernet-based wireless bridge (aka wireless adapter) with the Xbox 360. Just plug it into the Xbox 360 Ethernet port and installation will be the same as with the Xbox or any other console. The reason why Microsoft made the new adapter USB-based is because they wanted to eliminate an external power source for this adapter; other than that, it is identical to other wireless bridges


Try resetting your router and adapter and start from scratch. I really hope this is an isolated/fixable issue. I have a D-Link Gamefuel Adapter and Router that I recently spent a lot of money on.

 

[myzhi]

Wait a sec.


Stewy,

You have a Xbox 360? Thought 360 could just connect wireless to a router w/o an adapter. This is wrong?

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Wait a sec.


Stewy,

You have a Xbox 360? Thought 360 could just connect wireless to a router w/o an adapter. This is wrong?

Yes. You need a "bridge" that plugs into ethernet port. Or the USB MS adapter.

 

[myzhi]

Yes. You need a "bridge" that plugs into ethernet port. Or the USB MS adapter.

Wow. That's stupid. Not spending $99 for the adapter. Better to buy wireless access point.

 

[Lil' Dice]

No, it's the Wireless-B.

That could be your issue....

 

[Monk]

This is the kind of thing that will stop me from going online with the Xbox 360. Does the wireless adapter come with the non retard pack?

 

[Baron Aloha]

This is the kind of thing that will stop me from going online with the Xbox 360. Does the wireless adapter come with the non retard pack?

No. Its sold separately for 100 bucks.

 

[bill0527]

I would almost bet paypal money that you have something configured wrong in the Xbox360 setup with your Linksys Adapter.

Getting a newbie at Microsoft reading from a script will be no help at all. Anytime you call tech support and they have no fucking clue what you are talking about or how to fix your problem, they always resort to the good ole, "Well you need to be using OUR official products, and then it will work".

Call Linksys. I bet they have you up and running in 10 minutes.

 

[CarlosX360]

I'm glad I'm ditching my Linksys Wireless G (Model WRK54G) after buying D-Link's GameFuel.

 

[SkinSider]

I hate to sound dumb, but is Live even up for 360?

I am using the fake Live environment at work and it's full of test samples and dummy stuff.

And you couldn't log on anyway with Halo 2 BC, since the update isn't available yet.

So is it possible that your config is fine, but you're ina chicken/egg holding pattern?


EDIT: Never mind, I see you hardwired it for great victory.

 

[filthy]

Try turning on MAC address cloning in the bridge. It takes the bridge out of the equation, so your router treats the bridge as the device on the other end. I've got a linksys WET11 wireless b bridge, and in the latest firmware, it specifically mentions to use this feature for console gaming.

 

[stewy]

hrm...that'd be worth trying. I don't even know where to begin setting that up, though.

 

[filthy]

First, make sure you have the latest firmware. Connect the bridge directly to your router (make sure to change the switch on the bridge from straight-through to crossover), and run the updater from linksys.com. Then you have to access it from your browser, I think the IP is 192.168.0.100. The user/pass should be in the documentation somewhere.

Configure it the same way you configure your router. You might want to check your router's settings, and see if there is a similar option

 

[stewy]

OK, that was just strange.

First, I checked Linksys for the latest firmware, and there were no downloads.

So then I went into the setup program, and found that the thing had been reset. It was using a static IP and didn't have the proper SSID. So I changed those.

Finally, I clicked the switch on the bridge from "X" to "II"

Turned it on...everything works like a charm.

I don't get it.


Anyway, false alarm. Looks like the Linksys Wireless-B game adapter works fine for 360.

 

[isamu]

O.K. two things:

1)At home: I have an SMC hardwired router that I've been using with my Xbox and PS2. Can I plug the router directly into the ethernet port of my Xbox 360 and go on Live?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

2)At work: I have access to a free WiFi hotspot. This is the wireless bridge that came in my mail today:

*Belkin Wireless G Ethernet Bridge & Game Adapter*

Will I be able to plug it into the ethernet port of my 360 and go on Live through the WiFi Hotspot?

 

[stewy]

Yes to #1. hardwiring to the router is how I got on at first today.

I'd say probably yes to #2, now that I got my bridge working again. Unless there's some sort of security weirdness with the hotspot.

 

[isamu]

Unless there's some sort of security weirdness with the hotspot.

Doesn't require anyone to log in or submit a password or anything if that's what you mean

Hopefully I'm good to go!

 

[B-Rad Lascelle]

For those of you trying to get connected to XBL on your 360s, the connectivity wizard at XBox.com should be considered your new best friend. Learn it, live it, love it.

From what I've been told, most of the extensive troubleshooting resource articles will be made available via the site down the road, so if you're a do-it-your-selfer, you'll likely be able to avoid calling in for most reasons.

The major reason why you may be at a loss when it comes to a wireless scenario is that apart from the 'in-house doodads', resolving connection hangups for wireless adapters is just not something the Live reps are equipped to handle. (The one exception being the LinkSys WGA54 adapter series.) If the adapter simply isn't being detected, you're left with powercycling, rudimentary troubleshooting and "consult the manufacturer website".

Apart from repairs, most 360 hardware/Live support isn't being offered until launch next Tuesday. Call center hours will be extended until 3:00am Eastern / 12 midnight Pacific for both the 22nd & 23rd for added convenience.

Finally... I know the gravity sensor on the 'Ring of Light' is mighty slick, but don't repeat the horror story I heard today and show off that feature to your buddies with a game disc in the console. Unless the idea of your PGR3 being scratched all to hell is an enticing one, I wouldn't recommend it.

 

[isamu]

Quick question.

What are the upload speeds like at a typical outdoor WiFi Hotspot?

Adequate for hosting games?

 

[isamu]

Quick question.

What are the upload speeds like at a typical outdoor WiFi Hotspot?

Adequate for hosting games?

 

[bill0527]

I would almost bet paypal money that you have something configured wrong in the Xbox360 setup with your Linksys Adapter.

Getting a newbie at Microsoft reading from a script will be no help at all. Anytime you call tech support and they have no fucking clue what you are talking about or how to fix your problem, they always resort to the good ole, "Well you need to be using OUR official products, and then it will work".

Call Linksys. I bet they have you up and running in 10 minutes.

OK, that was just strange.

First, I checked Linksys for the latest firmware, and there were no downloads.

So then I went into the setup program, and found that the thing had been reset. It was using a static IP and didn't have the proper SSID. So I changed those.

Finally, I clicked the switch on the bridge from "X" to "II"

Turned it on...everything works like a charm.

I don't get it.


Anyway, false alarm. Looks like the Linksys Wireless-B game adapter works fine for 360.

I love it when I'm right.

 

[Helznicht]

So Network Gurus......

I have a HTPC (that has a wireless card) that will be sitting right under my 360. Can I setup Internet Sharing on my HTPC and just hardwire to the 360 and get the Live functionality? Will I be able to stream A/V over that same connection. From other XP PC on the wireless network?

Thanks.

 

[jedimike]

Finally... I know the gravity sensor on the 'Ring of Light' is mighty slick, but don't repeat the horror story I heard today and show off that feature to your buddies with a game disc in the console. Unless the idea of your PGR3 being scratched all to hell is an enticing one, I wouldn't recommend it.

I'm not understanding this... WTH is a gravity sensor?

 

[Inumaru]

I'm not understanding this... WTH is a gravity sensor?

I believe it's what detects the orientation of the 360, i.e., horizontal or vertical, so that the "Ring of Light" is itself correctly oriented.

 

[Helznicht]

WTH is a gravity sensor?

nm

 

[filthy]

So Network Gurus......

I have a HTPC (that has a wireless card) that will be sitting right under my 360. Can I setup Internet Sharing on my HTPC and just hardwire to the 360 and get the Live functionality? Will I be able to stream A/V over that same connection. From other XP PC on the wireless network?

Thanks.

Yes, that should work, you might need a crossover cable if the network card on the pc isn't smart enough to switch the send/receive data.

 

[isamu]

2)At work: I have access to a free WiFi hotspot. This is the wireless bridge that came in my mail today:

*Belkin Wireless G Ethernet Bridge & Game Adapter*

Will I be able to plug it into the ethernet port of my 360 and go on Live through the WiFi Hotspot?

O.K. just an update:

I took my Belkin Wireless Bridge to work today where I have my WiFi hotspot, and no matter what I try, I cannot get my laptop to connect to the internet using this bridge. I need to know...can wireless ethernet bridges be connected directly the internet via a WiFi hotspot? I know there are things like WiFi PCMCIA notebook cards, but are those different than wireless bridges? Neither Mozilla or IE will go online with this bridge, and I want to know if buying a wireless router instead of a wireless bridge will resolve this problem?

What ethernet port device do I need to go directly online through a WiFi outdoor hotspot?

 

[JMPovoa]

Does the Xbox360 Wi-fi adapter work with common PCs?

 

[isamu]

O.K. just an update:

I took my Belkin Wireless Bridge to work today where I have my WiFi hotspot, and no matter what I try, I cannot get my laptop to connect to the internet using this bridge. I need to know...can wireless ethernet bridges be connected directly the internet via a WiFi hotspot? I know there are things like WiFi PCMCIA notebook cards, but are those different than wireless bridges? Neither Mozilla or IE will go online with this bridge, and I want to know if buying a wireless router instead of a wireless bridge will resolve this problem?

What ethernet port device do I need to go directly online through a WiFi outdoor hotspot?

 

[isamu]

O.K. here's the deal...

I tried connecting my Xbox 1 to my Belkin wireless bridge and go online via a WiFi hotspot yesterday and no matter WHAT I did it did not work. And yes I did attempt to configure it within my PC's browser.

You know what happened whilst in the browser config menu? The name of my WiFi hotspot showed up in the list of available networks. It displayed the MAC address and even had the "join" box there so I checked it. Here I am thinking "Cool, it sees it so I should be able to connect to it." But niether browser, IE or Mozilla connects to any websites. It just hangs on "Looking up..." I talked to technical support several times and they gave the IP address to put in, subnet MASK, etc. and that still did not allow the bridge to go online.

Then, with the Xbox, having it set to automatic config, it just gives me a "Unable to locate DNS server" error.

It may just be the Belkin brand, but so far in my opinion it appears wireless bridges are simply not intended to work with public WiFi hotspots, and is intended more for wireless LAN solutions. Perhaps this is where PCMCIA notebook cards and USB WiFi dongle adaptors differ. They ARE made specifically with connecting to WiFi hotpsots in mind, while wireless ethernet LAN bridges are not.

If someone could point me to an wireless ethernet device that does work well and sets up easily with public outdoor WiFi hotspots and without all the complications, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise it appears the USB dongles are the best solution.

 

[Apharmd Battler]

This could get real interesting,

if thats true and it somehow knows your using a wireless extender, and blocks it.. wow, just wow

WHOA?! You don't say, I'll need to confirm this. So it's suspected that the XBox360 will connect ONLY if you use thier 1st party peripheral? That sounds odd and I'll need to research this.

I use the Microsoft MN-740 for my XBL wireless connection to my XBox. I bought the XBox360 adaptor yesterday in anticipation for Tuesday. I wonder if the XBox360 will recognize the MN-740. I'll check it out Tuesday after I get my fill of gaming.

 

[Birbo]

Can someone help me out and tell me exactly what I need to get to set up both my xbox and 360 wirelessly? Suggestions on actual products will be very helpful. What brands should I look for and what should I stay away from? Moving into a new house in 2 weeks and my wife has already stated I need to clean up all my wires.

Do I need to get one of the official Xbox wireless adaptors or will one of those Belkin game adaptors work? What's the difference between B and G? And what do I need to hook up to my PC?

And as always, cheaper is better.

Thanks a heap.

 

[Particle Physicist]

it makes sense. the linksys adapter is not an official 360 adapter. MS for the win!!