Men_in_Boxes
Banned
We'll see.
If MS gets a Fortnite level hit next gen, I'm not sure Sony is going to be happy selling around 10 million copies of a single player game. Sony should diversify.
Xbox Game Studios should be the "Anti-PlayStation"
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We'll see.
If MS gets a Fortnite level hit next gen, I'm not sure Sony is going to be happy selling around 10 million copies of a single player game. Sony should diversify.
cireza
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How can you say this while having an Hayabusa avatar ?
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
Sorry .. but they need to copy PlayStation , because what Sony did is the definition of great Games and if Xbox wants to offer its fans greatness... then don't go anti-PlayStation
ZywyPL
Banned
60FPS MP games vs 30FPS SP games is already as "anti" as it gets IMO. MS is clearly taking the opposite route, making the games available on as many platforms as possible, and allowing all those gamers to play together, instead of SP experience available only on a single hardware. That being said, both companies could learn a lot of each other, if both offered a mix of two worlds that would be fucking awesome. But it is what it is, anyone who can afford only one console has some serious choice to make, it's either or, nothing in between, the offering hasn't been so vastly different ever before.
Hobbygaming
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That's a big if, especially seeing how much competition there is already in a crowded multiplayer space
Sony is also already showing a lot of diversity for the PS5
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turtlepowa
Banned
Hell no, i'm fed up with cinematic 3rd person action adventures. Sure, they usually get high ratings, but i'm fine with innovative and/or gameplay focused AA games.
LordCBH
Member
same. And I don't mean all their games. I still want some games that MS always offers, but I'd like to see them use one of their IP's for a grand cinematic style adventure because I feel like they could put out something awesome.
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
I wasn't talking about you .. but about more than millions of players , the variety of games is a good thing
Hayabusabruh
Member
I was team xbox, but they forced me to switch. (No pun intended) My xb1x is just for the multiplats. As far as their exclusives, I'm done believing in them. I think their exclusives are based on the type of games that I hate. Yall can blame me.
Kokoloko85
Member
Agreed. Let there be peace in the console wars. I know Im gonna love my PS5 and good luck with those on the Xbox.
Heck Ill be playing it with my brother is Halo Infinite is decent.
I do think Playstation and Nintedo will eventually hit the cloud gaming properly eventually
BlackM1st
Banned
Word. Can't believe we have AA demands in here. PS4 gen was already very expensive, way too expansive to the most publishers. It basically killed japanese AAA. They're barely got to PS3 levels of production values.PS5 gen will be even more expensive. Only Sony, MS, EA, Acti and Ubi and some others can produce proper AAA now. Even R☆ can't afford to drop GTA online. Don't worry ppl, you'll get your AA and Indies. I seriously worried about AAA though. So no, MS should stick to AAA.
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
It's funny. I've been a Sony fan since the first PlayStation.
I looked at that PS5 conference and thought "There's absolutely no diversity here". Waaaaaay too many "push forward on left thumbstick linear (or wide linear) single player games".
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Self
Member
This my men, this!
It would be nearly impossible to skip a console with such an lineup.
Roberts
Member
Don't care how you label it, I'm mostly fine with MS output and now the only thing they can do is to improve further. Not everybody wants Sony cinematic games and believe it or not, there is big enough market for stuff like Grounded. As long as there is variety, fans win. My only problem with their output was not enough RPG games (thankfully, 3rd party did the job) this gen and we know that this isn't going to be a issue anymore.
Hobbygaming
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Oh really?
Sackboy
Gran Turismo 7
Abe's Odyssey
Demolition racer (I forgot the name)
Returnal
Ratchet and Clank
Spider-man Miles Morales
Astrobot
Little Devil Inside
Horizon Forbidden West
Stray
Kena
Bugsnax
If this isn't diversity then diversity doesn't exists
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Men_in_Boxes
Banned
So 6 "push up on left thumbstick in linear level" games
Another Gran Turismo
3 indie games
2 open world sequels
1 futuristic sport
Where are the FPS games? The survival games? The RPGs? The strategy games?
In my opinion, there was a pretty bad lack of variety.
Hobbygaming
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So in other words nothing counts because of reasons lol
Tiamat2san
Member
I want single player games from them.
+ WRPG
+JRPG
+fighting games.
+ action/adventure games.
I don't need more multiplayer /GAS games.
So far it's why they are behind this generation in my eyes.
And I fucking love MS IPs
Gears is my favorite action shooter.
Halo is still my favorite FPS franchise.
Forza is the racing series (both versions)
Killer instinct was great.
But I need other BIG games.
I need a classic rare game.
I need a AAA fable game.
I need new IPS
+ WRPG
+JRPG
+fighting games.
+ action/adventure games.
I don't need more multiplayer /GAS games.
So far it's why they are behind this generation in my eyes.
And I fucking love MS IPs
Gears is my favorite action shooter.
Halo is still my favorite FPS franchise.
Forza is the racing series (both versions)
Killer instinct was great.
But I need other BIG games.
I need a classic rare game.
I need a AAA fable game.
I need new IPS
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
No. I listed the reasons.
I just saw a ton of sequels and linear single player games. To me, that doesn't scream variety.
Hobbygaming
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Lmao so sequels doesn't mean variety?? Astrobot is no different than Spider-man Miles Morales??
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
Nope. What other way could I mean that sequels are a sign of variety deficit?
Hint: If I played a lot of Gran Turismo 3, Gran Turismo 6, and Gran Turismo Sport, do you think I view Gran Turismo 7 as "healthy variety"?
PlayVerso
Member
Microsoft only has decent shooters.
Hobbygaming
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Lol and if there's Gran Turismo 7 and Stray and Astrobot and Godfall? Still no variety?
Jigsaah
Gold Member
I just spent a half an hour in a museum on the Last of Us 2....fighting...nothing.
Manstructiclops
Banned
Can't we just go back to games with big dudes, in big armour, with big fucking guns? Rather than all this soygoy, walking simulator shit?
Leave the playstation to the coomers that wear diapers.
Leave the playstation to the coomers that wear diapers.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
i think HellBlade 2 fits the description of "playstation-like" exclusives.
Project Mara may as well. Need more info.
I like the distinction between the two consoles right now. I do wish Sony would not focus so heavily on the cinematic 3rd person games though. I think it would be great if they released a game that really doesn't "end" in the traditional sense. Id probably play my Playstation more. Id probably have more friends on PSN as well. Because i basically play the system for its exclusives, I only really play single player games on it. For me, that makes Playstation a quality, but lonely experience.
Project Mara may as well. Need more info.
I like the distinction between the two consoles right now. I do wish Sony would not focus so heavily on the cinematic 3rd person games though. I think it would be great if they released a game that really doesn't "end" in the traditional sense. Id probably play my Playstation more. Id probably have more friends on PSN as well. Because i basically play the system for its exclusives, I only really play single player games on it. For me, that makes Playstation a quality, but lonely experience.
Hayabusabruh
Member
Thank goodness plenty of them do though. Those kinda games are ones that sale. Enjoy your Tetris
LeVictorien
Banned
More power to you if you only like one type of game, other people like variety and, yes, maybe you don't like it but Tetris has been remade and copied continually since 1984, people like it.
009EspadaSageJay
Member
I just want MS to keep making games with good gameplay and bring back old IP that are stuck in limbo. I do not want MS to copy the sad dad story cinematic type games no bring back more stuff like Project gothan racing and crimson skies and perfect dark and conkor type games.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Proper games? Just because a game is cinematic doesn't make it any less of a game. I wouldn't mind seeing Microsoft pouring more money, time and higher budgets into some of their franchises.
Jubenhimer
Member
You can have a nice balance of both IMO.
Joe T.
Member
I agree for the most part, but rather than being the 'anti-PlayStation' they should simply be aiming to put a greater focus into genres or game types that Sony doesn't already dominate. It's why Halo Infinite needs to have a great showing next month, preferably with a good bit of gameplay shown off.
I have nothing against the story-driven games that have come to define Sony, but the easiest way for Microsoft to distinguish itself in that market is to take an approach similar to Nintendo/Rare's with Conker's Bad Fur Day in 2001: go against political correctness. Safe to say that likely won't happen and it's unfortunate because the overwhelming majority are tired of political correctness despite the impression social media is giving everyone (source: The Atlantic).
I have nothing against the story-driven games that have come to define Sony, but the easiest way for Microsoft to distinguish itself in that market is to take an approach similar to Nintendo/Rare's with Conker's Bad Fur Day in 2001: go against political correctness. Safe to say that likely won't happen and it's unfortunate because the overwhelming majority are tired of political correctness despite the impression social media is giving everyone (source: The Atlantic).
LordKasual
Banned
The problem with this is that Sony's marketing is pretty squarely focused towards GAMING, while Microsoft treats gaming as a sort of side-hustle.
You can see it in their marketing....XSX seems like little more than a focus-tested self-response to all the mistakes made by the Xbox One. It's exactly what Xbox One was, except with all the inconvenient shortcomings directly addressed.
Sony is clearly looking through the lens of gamers when they market the PS5.
People were way too short-sighted when discussing the PS5's initial reveal where they got the specs and SSD info out of the way. It was nothing more than a setup for the REAL reveals.
"Cinematic" games showcase the power of hardware much better than any spec sheet ever will. And EXCLUSIVE "cinematic" games allow Sony to have an apparent edge over Xbox without actually having a stronger system.
This is why Sony will pay money for Final Fantasy 7 Remake or Demons Souls to be a timed exclusive, or market the PS5 so heavily towards "SSD Secret Sauce".
Because when people actually see Ratchet and Clank or Spiderman or Horizon in real time, all the Teraflop discrepancies and "Secret Sauce" discussions immediately cease, as they never mattered in the first place.
Xbox is already the Anti-Playstation.
They are already taking a different path -- "We're EXACTLY what we were last time, except better and more convenient".
PS5's marketing this time around is -- "We're going to allow COMPLETELY DIFFERENT levels of experiences this time around".
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Cyber_hunter026
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No one, not even sony nor Microsoft will ever have anything as successful and huge as fortnite. that game came out of nowhere, and captured the battle royale scene. it would take alot for either of the big 3 to come up with something universally played as it. this is no hate, nor saying it's impossible, but it's unlikely.
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
First of all, never say never. This industry is a grower. In 10 or 20 years we'll see a game reach or exceed Fortnite level success.
But this is besides the point. As multiplayer, social games begin to flourish, we will almost certainly see Sony and MS benefit by investing in these games. Will they make a Fortnite level game soon? Unlikely.
Will they make one of these games that's more profitable than a The Last of Us II or Zelda: Breath of the Wild? Yes. Most likely.
I'm encouraged by Naughty Dogs decision to split off it's multiplayer mode into a standalone game so that they can make it more ambitious as a PS5 title. The constrains of it's single player mode no longer hold it back.
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Cyber_hunter026
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True, something like fortnite or possibly even better will come along. that is besides my point, I don't see Microsoft, nor Sony, nor Nintendo come even close to replicating something on that level. they tried, but wasn't close enough. a smaller, unknown studio or well known has much more opportunity and a chance to replicate or go beyond it.
pixelation
Member
Kinda late for that right now, something tells me that they'll show some Sony like new IP's to try and get some new fans... will they be any good?, they better be. I mean... I get what you're saying... I think... but what type of games do you suggest?, what would a potential anti-PS game be about?
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
I don't know. I think these big developers have a pretty good chance at hitting a home run as they have a ton of advantages over the little studios. They just need to commit.
Also, I never like the "they tried" thing because human history is filled with people who try, fail, try again, and succeed. Nothing worth doing is ever easy.