Leatherface
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I was told it will be free. Is there any truth to this? If so why no excitement? That's a pretty big selling point IMO... *confused*
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Kung Fu Jedi
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Silver members will get some free features, like Microtransactions! :lol I think some messaging functionality, etc. and free game play weekends. Gold membership, which you pay for, will be the full on, plus upgraded, Live experience we know today.
Kung Fu Jedi
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How often do you think microsoft will have free weekends? They've mentioned something like monthly, but my guess is it'll be loser to quarterly.
Leatherface
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human5892 said:
this is exactly what I thought thanks.
I haven't heard anything about a schedule either, but if it's promotional weekends then there's no reason why there would be. If anything they'd be either random or tied around something like a big game release (but not actually limit you to playing that game obviously).DarienA said:
Someone said something about monthly free weekends... I don't see that happening either since MS wants you to use and pay for the Gold version. If it happened that often it lowers the chance that people would be willing to do so. "I don't have to pay since I can play for free all weekend every 4 weeks!"
johns all like
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anyone think with the nintendo announcement, they'll push up how many free weekends they'll give?
Silver gets you live arcade, marketplace, friends list/messaging/chat (I think), spectator mode like Gotham TV, MMORPG and games updates. Plus free week ends.
Gold is for actual gameplay, obviously. You get one month of free gold service when you buy a premium Xbox 360.
Gold is for actual gameplay, obviously. You get one month of free gold service when you buy a premium Xbox 360.
Leatherface
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I really hope Nintendo's free online service gets really popular and eventually forces the other companies to follow suit. 
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microsoft's marketing at work. tons of people think they will be getting free live.. as in free online gaming.
I know! Not only this, but the two SKU thing as well. Screw MS and their forcing of people to read! I mean wtf?quadriplegicjon said:microsoft's marketing at work. tons of people think they will be getting free live.. as in free online gaming.
Indeed. Free every weekend has got to be a joke/mistype.human5892 said:
Kung Fu Jedi
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I had heard promotional weekends, but certainly not every weekend. I don't think Blim meant to imply that either. He just meant that the Silver level Xbox Live service allowed you to play on Free Weekends, when they occur. Not that it provided you with every weekend free. At least that's how I read it.
I'd guess we'll get those free weekends three or four times a year.
I'd guess we'll get those free weekends three or four times a year.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Deathcraze said:I dont suppose we will be able to add this to our current Live subscription will we? If not I will cry
I guess we won't know for sure until the 360 drops, but you'll need to set up your old account on the 360, so it could easily credit you with a month when you do that. Then again, we are talking about Microsoft here...
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raYne said:I know! Not only this, but the two SKU thing as well. Screw MS and their forcing of people to read! I mean wtf?
i just hate misleading marketing.. kinda like the launch window thing.. then again, thats part of the point huh..
Deathcraze said:I dont suppose we will be able to add this to our current Live subscription will we? If not I will cry
Actually depending on how it works it should be possible. With Live on 360 you don't need a Credit Card anymore so you should be able to get by just entering in codes and extending you time. I dunno if it'll work with 2 month free cards or if the 360 will even have those, but for cards bought in stores it definately will. It's a crapshoot but there is a possibility.
FortNinety
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quadriplegicjon said:microsoft's marketing at work. tons of people think they will be getting free live.. as in free online gaming.
Hey now, MS said people love choices!
Kung Fu Jedi
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Xrenity said:
That would be the "Bronze Subscription" level. :lol
Bump for a few questions, haven't been able to find any answers:
1) Any chance our current Live! subscriptions will transfer over to a Gold subscription? I just activated a 12 month subscription gift card, it would seriously suck if I had to buy a new 360 subscription in a month.
2) Is Live! and Live! 360 the same thing, or are they separate entities? Meaning do we just sign into Live! with our 360s and our friends and settings get carried over, or is it a whole new thing?
1) Any chance our current Live! subscriptions will transfer over to a Gold subscription? I just activated a 12 month subscription gift card, it would seriously suck if I had to buy a new 360 subscription in a month.
2) Is Live! and Live! 360 the same thing, or are they separate entities? Meaning do we just sign into Live! with our 360s and our friends and settings get carried over, or is it a whole new thing?
Misleading marketing?!? WTF? Microsoft has been crystal clear about the differences of Xbox Live Silver and Gold. If a person can't understand the difference they're a moron. Don't blame MS for that.quadriplegicjon said:i just hate misleading marketing.. kinda like the launch window thing.. then again, thats part of the point huh..
The only things Microsoft has ever said you need a Gold account for are online play and video chat. Every other feature of Xbox Live can be used with a free Silver account.
The Faceless Master
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it's more like consumer inability to read more than a few sentences
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they havent been that crystal clear. they also talk about free weekends for silver members while purposefully not giving specifics.. same thing with the launch window thing.. its just a marketing scheme for the masses. people hear, this game is coming out during the launch.. great! i can play my games online.. for free. great!
you and i.. we read through what they actually say.. the general public only hear the buzz words. its purposely deceptive. but hey, thats a marketing tactic.
I see so saying you are going to have free weekend promotions and free trials is misleading marketing. I guess everytime an ISP offers you a free trial or a free number of hours it is misleading marketing too. :lol Everyone who buys an Xbox 360 will be able to play their games online for free for the first month. It's a free trial, if you don't understand the concept you're retarded. If someone thinks the entire service is going to be free for everyone all the time then they're not listening to anything Microsoft is saying.
The launch window isn't misleading marketing either. Nobody announces the exact launch day games this far in advance. Microsoft is the only company that launches their console first in America, so maybe you don't understand this. They haven't certified any games yet for launch day and if they find a bug in any of the games they will be delayed a few weeks. So they are not doing anything misleading, they are being responsible by not promising games for launch day before they have finished certification. Microsoft is going to announce which games will be available on launch day sometime before the console is released so I don't see how this is misleading marketing.
Also I don't really see why it's so important. Is anyone really going to regret buying the console because they had to wait a couple of weeks to get a game?
The launch window isn't misleading marketing either. Nobody announces the exact launch day games this far in advance. Microsoft is the only company that launches their console first in America, so maybe you don't understand this. They haven't certified any games yet for launch day and if they find a bug in any of the games they will be delayed a few weeks. So they are not doing anything misleading, they are being responsible by not promising games for launch day before they have finished certification. Microsoft is going to announce which games will be available on launch day sometime before the console is released so I don't see how this is misleading marketing.
Also I don't really see why it's so important. Is anyone really going to regret buying the console because they had to wait a couple of weeks to get a game?
I believe the first month is free for everyone including Xbox 360 Core owners. Anything else to needlessly bitch about?
BTW: Are you actually implying that you're not getting enough for your money in the premium bundle? :lol
Oh yeah and you know the $4 a month it costs for Xbox Live Gold service is a real hardship too.
BTW: Are you actually implying that you're not getting enough for your money in the premium bundle? :lol
Oh yeah and you know the $4 a month it costs for Xbox Live Gold service is a real hardship too.
The Other One
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On a related note, how the hell do I cancel my live subscription? MS are so sly charging me yearly without notifiying me.
And for those that don't know, you no longer need a credit car for LIVE 360 as you can buy top up cards.
And for those that don't know, you no longer need a credit car for LIVE 360 as you can buy top up cards.
How about the money they've obviously spent improving the service and making it the best and most secure multiplayer gaming service?GaimeGuy said:I'm implying it's stupid that the only place in the world I have to pay to play Peer to Peer is on the Xbox.
Here's my advice, if you don't like paying a measly $4 a month for Xbox Live, then go use those other great free services instead and leave Xbox Live to all of us "saps."
Microsoft is spending billions of dollars developing Xbox Live and constantly improving and monitoring it and you're complaining about it costing $4 a month. I think it's worth a lot more personally, I mean anyone who's had the service since the beginning can see how much they've added to it over time. What they're giving away for free now s incredibly generous too. You can share photos and music playlists over Xbox Live, you can send voice and text messages, you can voice chat over every single game (you don't even have to be playing the same game), you can voice chat over any application actually, you can have 16 way chats (Skype only does 4 person chats). They also let you download themes and avatars and extra content for your games (most of which was free this generation and could still be free next generation) without even having to have the game disc in. They're going to have tons of free game demos and free game trailers, every single Xbox Live Arcade game has a free demo.
Yet people still bitch about $4 a month as if there is a better service out there.
Yes I honestly do think they are spending billions on developing, maintaining, and monitoring Xbox Live. I also honestly think it shows.GaimeGuy said:
I seriously doubt they're making any money off of it yet. Right now I think they see it as a way to get people to buy the console and differentiate it from their competitors and get developers making games for them. The fact that developers don't have to worry about setting up servers and billing customers and those things makes Xbox Live a much more attractive platform for them than any other console.
If they get people actually paying for content and downloads like the cell phone industry then I think Xbox Live will become profitable for Microsoft. I think the $50 a year will never be profitable alone.
The Other One
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raYne said:
I thought I was paying for ONE year. Not continously.
ps. Thanks for the number, what happens if its not my card or I've actually lost the card..
:lol :lol :lol :lolOrin GA said:
http://www.reed-electronics.com/electronicnews/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&doc_id=110265
Microsoft didn't send anyone to the moon and they lost $4 billion on Xbox. The keyword there is "lost" because in order to "lose" $4 billion when you're getting lots of money back on hardware and software sales in addition to subscriptions it implies that you spent way more than $4 billion. AFAIK the Xbox was never used to send anyone to the moon.Yusaku said:
Teknopathetic
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"I'm implying it's stupid that the only place in the world I have to pay to play Peer to Peer is on the Xbox."
If that's all XBL was now, I'd be inclined to agree. Unfortunately, it shows that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
If that's all XBL was now, I'd be inclined to agree. Unfortunately, it shows that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.