Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features
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I am Michael Bolton
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What was the nick of 'Noobasauru' or something? I wonder what he has to say.
if anything, being able to ban a single account (and all the games attatched to it) is far more significant anti-piracy measure than any of the other stuff. I don't really get the point of the 24 hour check-in (though I'm also completely ambivalent to it because I have an internet connection so w/e), but it seems like this is a really obvious deterrent Microsoft is installing. gives them a lot of leverage.
Randolph Freelander
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"How awesome is your DRM?"
Visualante2
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LiveFromKyoto
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I lend out my games all the time. I buy from independent retailers. I want to be able to buy physical, resellable copies of rare games that I missed on eBay.
So as if the creepy Kinect camera weren't enough, screw all this stuff. I'm done with Xbox.
So as if the creepy Kinect camera weren't enough, screw all this stuff. I'm done with Xbox.
Eaten By A Grue
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Barack Lesnar
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Ugh. This is what MS is banking on. Did anyone else ask non-forumers? What did they say? It would be interesting to get some anecdotes.
Karak
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Damn like...hmmm. I don't know. I don't like it but its better than I was expecting...but I don't like it...so just damn
I am also not sure that Sony won't somehow follow suit with something like it.
Askherserenity
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Wait, what? lmaoooooo
How is MS trying to do the same by having 24h authentication?
JetBlackPanda
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No. PC retail market in US is dead everywhere else there is PC retail market.
Not really. You could sell the game to your friend if they were on your friend's list for 30 days, but they can't sell on the game after that - so it would be a weird person who would buy that game from you, I'd think.
And right, you don't have to take the disc over there, but you do have to download the game to their console, blu-ray games, 10 plus gigs, hope you have a few hours or a day to wait around before playing...
Don't know why but this had me rolling
Dammit!
and to think I wasn't going to buy it just because they continued Live Gold!
Now we have what basically amounts to one of the least consumer friendly products ever conceived. Even the RIAA at their height never did anything this ridiculous. The MPAA wishes they had the clout to do this on set top movie players.
Hell even that Divx video linked a few pages ago wasn't as bad. It only phones home every fifteen days, you could trade discs with whomever you wanted and they were priced competitively with one day Blockbuster Rentals! (No Widescreen though, what were they thinking!) Seems tame in comparison!
It hasn't. You can't even begin to compare this to steam or iOS. There are plenty of posts in this thread and others which prove this comparison is a bad idea. Those services offer benefits to consumers along with little cost, this is benefits for the publisher, not consumer. Hell just look at the 24 hour check in, neither iOS, Steam, or Google do anything like that. It's not a good comparison at all.
As someone who has a reliable Internet connection and doesn't purchase used games/borrow games, nothing announced here is really troublesome for me. Having said that, I can totally see why someone would refuse to buy this system. If you have shoddy internet, or heavily rely on used games, then it absolutely makes zero sense to buy this system. I personally lack the moral conviction to protest a console for reasons that don't personally effect me. It's definitely a selfish position, but In a choice between ideals and personal gaming, the latter is going to win every time. Having said that, I think some of these decisions by Microsoft are extremely stupid and definitely going to have a tangible effect on the momentum of their brand.
clutch.as.it.gets.
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Yes.
The original release says exactly the same thing! It doesn't really inspire confidence but I guess it's better than a flat out no.
I thought there was no way the online only or the 24 check rumors were true. They don't currently support Live in all the countries they sell in, much less some of the other issues that I figured would come up just on the retail end. But I was wrong. I connect to Live 99% of the time when playing, but as someone who has live in apartments with internet access issues, technical problems, or issues with my ISP provider in the past, there's no chance in hell I'm ever buying a system that doesn't play games unless it is connected every 24 hours. I don't care if it's MS or Sony.
I'm glad that they've confirmed these details instead of waffling more. I ain't even mad about it, but as a fan of some of their IPs I'm disappointed.
I'm glad that they've confirmed these details instead of waffling more. I ain't even mad about it, but as a fan of some of their IPs I'm disappointed.
metalslimer
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Boycotting the Xbox One will be easy for many people here. We'll see if people stick to their guns if Sony has a lot of the same policies but otherwise has an awesome showing of games
Outrage247
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Awesome I say. As a person who lives in the real world with internet(were all on gaf right?) I don't mind any of these.
krypt0nian
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I just read your whole post history. It's clear why you're here.
It's going to be target #1 and/or get DDOSed all the time.
I cant believe it. MS must have an army of you guys.
ThatObviousUser
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Playing devil's advocate, because I hate to see the overreaction:
-I can almost guarantee they will work out rental deals with redbox, blockbuster, gamefly, etc. They would be foolish to leave money on the table.
-Put a piece of tape over the kinect sensor if you don't want MS to see you in your underwear. It's not like they'll be recording you on some server. relax.
-24 hours of offline play: If your internet is down for more than 24 hours get a new provider. My PC is always online and that's where I game the most. You're not taking the xbox out of your house to go camping so what is the problem?
-You can still trade a game to a friend. Once it's theirs, who cares what happens to it next. And there will still be avenues to sell your games. Amazon, gamestop, CeX... they'll all be there.
-Sharing all your games among 10 people = amazing. I can see 10 of my gaming friends and I working out a system of who buys what. That's 9 less games we each have to buy. Makes up for the lack of trade-in.
*checks posts histories*
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fatgamecat
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Likely, but some smaller publishers can't afford or don't want to host their own DRM servers. So at least some PS4 games will be offline capable. Just not EA/Activision/Ubi games.
Maybe for most, but I still haven't bought that game and won't.
legacyzero
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Come on man. It's PAINFULLY obvious.
SRTtoZ
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I have a few non gaffer friends who give lots of shit about this stuff and they were primarily 360 gamers this gen. It goes both ways depending on peoples priorities.
LiveFromKyoto
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No, people who have 40 posts over 3 years, all of them either doing damage control for one company or spreading negativity about the products of its competitors are shills.
Even the worst kind of fanboy at least posts about his favourite game some time. Or about his dog in OT. Or whatever. Because he is a real person.
xaosslug
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that's generally the response from people that don't. get. it. But, they will when MS is updating the servers or their Internet goes out or they forget to pay for their Internet or their Internet speed just isn't up to snuff or they go into a retailer that isn't on 'the list' and are denied trade-in.
generally, these are the kinds of people that need to learn from experience...
Fuck yes.
Its not even about ourselves but about console gaming as a whole. The beginning of the end if we do nothing. I will very easily boycott that abomination of a console.
I can't even imagine an amount of game awesomeness that could even make me hesitate for like a nanosecond.
KingItachi
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Just caught up on all the Info, I especially love how publishers can enable me to lend my games and Cliffy kindly stfu.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I could loan out my 360 library to 80+ people simultaneously. With this, you can only loan to one person at a time, out of a possible pool of 10.
This is not progress.
Commanche Raisin Toast
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not enough! haha
yeah i just figured they were fucking consumers enough as it is and they dealt with the shitstorm that followed, that they wouldn't dare go any further. but wow... no trade ins for the first few months? that's gotta be illegal. i wonder if you can even return the game for a refund.
With 18 out 833 people buying the game?
Please. Give me more straw men to blow over.
Kelegacy
XBOX - RECORD ME LOVING DOWN MY WOMAN GOOD
The best way to show your disgust with next Gen consoles and their new policies is to not buy one. Tell everyone you know how horrible it is and continue to smear the soon to be current state of the industry. People buy things based on word of mouth so the idea is to affect the opposite.
If all else fails, I hope the industry crashes, and hard. If so much of this is because of big greedy publishers, I hope the smaller firms and Indies inherit the earth and rebuild.
If all else fails, I hope the industry crashes, and hard. If so much of this is because of big greedy publishers, I hope the smaller firms and Indies inherit the earth and rebuild.