Cheesemeister
Member
Yeah, fuck this shit.
Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features
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Deleted member 17706
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Yes. Whether or not you get to play Xbone games at any point in the future is entirely up to Microsoft, and maybe somewhat up to a publisher.
I know they're big corporations and profit is their bottom line...
But this all seems so brutally against the customer. None of these features seem to be designed to make our lives better or easier in any way. I miss the idea of games as an easy and fun distraction. Like pulling out a board-game with friends.
It's really going to turn me off of a lot of games that I might otherwise play because of all the hoops I need to go through for very little benefit.
But this all seems so brutally against the customer. None of these features seem to be designed to make our lives better or easier in any way. I miss the idea of games as an easy and fun distraction. Like pulling out a board-game with friends.
It's really going to turn me off of a lot of games that I might otherwise play because of all the hoops I need to go through for very little benefit.
blitzcloud
Banned
well I'm not concerned with comparing the services as a whole, I'm concerned with all the people pretending that this is violating some sort of principle with DRM. and if it's really based on principle, then the line was crossed a long time ago and we ain't ever going back. if it's not... then it's just another product. there are plenty of products I don't buy (because I, like most everybody else, have limited funds, time, etc.)—that doesn't mean I'm morally opposed to them or anything. I just don't buy them.
no product maker is obligated to make their product for everyone. microsoft doesn't want people's money—fine, don't give it to them. welcome to capitalism.
Oh I'm 100% on board with this. If ever a Xbox One enters my house I'm going to Office Space the fuck out of it and post it's dying carcass back to Microsoft as a warning sign.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
You keep saying this, but it contradicts their statements about not needed internet, how can you verify ownership without it? The disc? Ya, that's what we have now.
Spat_triate
Member
Won't they just include the court-approved, anti consumer clause that bars that very measure?
Is it hard to believe there are Xbox fans that, upon the eve of E3, are wanting to talk more Xbox with other gamers?
If you look at my post history over the last few days I've been mostly in Xbox related threads because I'm absolutely stoked about the prospect of what Rare is going to show (been a fan of theirs for 20 years, buy every game of theirs on day one). They're tied to Microsoft, so I'm in rain or shine, so I'd like to focus on the positive.
All that said, I still see why people are upset. I would recommend you vote with your wallet, but there's absolutely no sense in attacking people who aren't as upset about this as you are.
GreenTornadoX
Member
Pretty much. All it will take is anonymous to ddos their servers for weeks on end and it will be the writing on the wall for Micro$oft.
Wishmaster92
Member
Karak
Member
Brother. Fist bump on that one.
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
So it's really an always online console with a 24 hour grace period, yeah?
Oh and needing publisher approval to trade-in games. I think we just got a clue about how the PS4 will handle shit too, they said it was up to the publishers too.
Oh and needing publisher approval to trade-in games. I think we just got a clue about how the PS4 will handle shit too, they said it was up to the publishers too.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Haha, I Loled.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Do people actually sell friends games? I've never sold or bought a game from a friend, it's always borrowing.
Ya'll realize that even though you can register up to 10 family members to your XBL account, only one family member may play in addition to the account holder at the same time, right?
From: http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license
The key word is "one".
From: http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license
The key word is "one".
Looks like Im gonna have to change from Xbox to PS4 depending what sony responds to this gamer shafting fiasco from MS. I've used xbox 360 as my primary gaming console while the others, (wii, ps3) were used for exclusive titles. This is just pure fuckin BS...I thought MS was going to improve the 360's capabilities instead of making their next gen console a gamer's financial/entertainment liability as well as making it underpowered.
Overall, I'll support any game company that speaks to us gamers and if gives us what we want., now what we should like because "its hip to own" or some stupid PR BS comment like that.
I dunno GAF, Im just pissed..
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Overall, I'll support any game company that speaks to us gamers and if gives us what we want., now what we should like because "its hip to own" or some stupid PR BS comment like that.
I dunno GAF, Im just pissed..
:/
IF I EVER SEE THIS FUCKING PIC AGAIN I SWEAR TO GOD
EDIT: I hate it because it shows fucking nothing. Steam lists the people playing in front, so out of all the thousands who are part of that group, what like 20?, are playing Call of Duty on (probably) launch day.
What, I don't even.
Effigenius
Member
No XBone for me. Xbox was my main console the last two generations but I am out. There's still a used game market? Sure there is. You can't sell to EBay or Amazon Market Place or Craigslist. Instead of this gen when Gamestop was the worst place to sell your games, now it's the only option (and Best Buy and Amazon) and they will be paying less than ever for your games. I'm voting with my wallet on this one, and I'm not voting for the XBone.
Well, that is one less next gen console to buy. I like how they attempt to spin this, but it just looks just as bad as before (if not worse).
That is unfortunate since one of the things I like about consoles is that those games are still playable as long as the hardware works. Now its just over once the servers are no longer supported. My old consoles and their games still work. Its a damn shame. This will be the first Xbox console I don't buy.
That is unfortunate since one of the things I like about consoles is that those games are still playable as long as the hardware works. Now its just over once the servers are no longer supported. My old consoles and their games still work. Its a damn shame. This will be the first Xbox console I don't buy.
I posted the new on Facebook and 3 people replied negatively. 2 confirmed they won't be buying the system because of this.
Have to agree here. People already can't sell, lend, trade apps on their phones and tablets. To them this won't be very different. Xbox One will probably do pretty good sales wise.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Just thought I'd quote this, good post.
I cannot wait for the angry parent responses. This is where the non-forum backlash will be coming from.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Everyone who plans to boycott, sign it, and then we can see how many of them end up posting Forza 5 impressions come November.
1 FUCKING page out of 17. What about those other pages hmmm? Oh where there's NO pics or info about them.
……forgetit
Member
Well I have at least 3 non-internet people saying fuck this shit, people are a lot more pissed about it if they're in college or rural areas.
Sony has the RFID stuff don't they?
If you look, 18 out of 833 got the game. I am sick of seeing this image posted over and over. It doesn't illustrate your point it refutes it.
Yes, I cannot even believe this needs re-quoting, but the thread is at warp speed. For the unaware, the following is now chiseled in stone:
I know, its unbelievable.
and so shall the indie plattforms of android and ios rise
Scnr
I am curious about the #nodrm folks. Is nintendo even an option, if sony goes a similiar way?
Can I still boycott if I wasn't planning to buy one anyway?
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Deleted member 8095
Unconfirmed Member
Guys, there's no fucking way MS is going to let 1 game be shared between a group of 10 people. There has to be some sort of catch there. These policies show they want $$$$$$$$ and letting 10 friends share one game would kill sales. Even if only 1 of the 10 is able to play at a time. Can't see this happening.
I hope the people that make games are happy about making a few bucks now when the games they seem to care about are no longer playable because Microsoft decided they could save a penny by shutting off servers.
If any of you have a damn about games being recognized as a legitimate form of art, you would care about people in future generations being able to experience what you created.
It was never about creating something that can be enjoyed for generations to come. It was about lining your pockets.
If any of you have a damn about games being recognized as a legitimate form of art, you would care about people in future generations being able to experience what you created.
It was never about creating something that can be enjoyed for generations to come. It was about lining your pockets.
A number of people in this thread talk about how "if your internet sucks, you should change your provider." But the reality is that while you have 2 other choices for internet (mobile LOL, satellite LOL), they're not as good as terrestrial internet (fiber, cable)... and the latter kind is controlled on a per district basis, meaning Comcast and Time Warner, for example, cannot exist within the same area. Of course, I'm talking about the U.S. here, which is what Microsoft's targeting.
There's also another aspect of this that people are doing: assumption that Microsoft's servers will stay online 24/7. With all this talk about consumers being screwed over, what are the odds that Anonymous or any cyber hacking organization will attempt to take down these servers to prove a point?
Things to consider in this conversation...
There's also another aspect of this that people are doing: assumption that Microsoft's servers will stay online 24/7. With all this talk about consumers being screwed over, what are the odds that Anonymous or any cyber hacking organization will attempt to take down these servers to prove a point?
Things to consider in this conversation...
DJ Crimson
Banned
Everyone who plans to boycott, sign it, and then we can see how many of them end up posting Forza 5 impressions come November.
When people even bring this up. They seem to forget that it was a public group that anyone can join. Easy way for people to troll the group. Not that I fully disagree with what you're getting at.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Oh yes, I love Xbawx. Seriously though, there's enough negativity to go around (with reason) sometimes "it could be worse" puts a few things in perspective.
Also at least we can buy PS4's. Wait, we don't know if Sony is doing some of this do we?
Physical games aren't digital games.
Dr.Thunder
Member
At this point there is no possible game that can convince me to get an xbox one as long as these policies are in place.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
When I hear 70% of Xbox360 users are Live users. I think of the millions and millions of teens out there sitting in matchmaking right now talking about their lives and bad mouthing one another (seriously). I don't think of myself or anybody I know.
I feel bad I'm not really into watching a lot of TV or sports really. I might as well sit this MS XBox out. Sad, but true.
I feel bad I'm not really into watching a lot of TV or sports really. I might as well sit this MS XBox out. Sad, but true.
Done and done heh.
semiconscious
Member
...I think it's hard to say whether people truly care or not yet. The average consumer isn't, let's be honest, too bright. They think nothing of the issues right now but let's see how dudebro #1 feels when he can't play Madden because his internet is fucking up.
It will be interesting to see what happens, and if the negative press snowballs out of control, once the thing is in homes.
The big question is simultaneously. Even two people at the same time would be a huge deal.